Guild Wars 2

CuRtoKy.8576:

Niko Stark.8932:

It’s a 2v1 because it is the only way for JQ and TC to beat BG. Not the soft 2v1 where you have a mutual understanding of when and who to focus on, as with BG + TC and BG + SoS, but a real 2v1 where 2 servers are free to stand next to each other or back up each other’s zerg groups. Despite all the cries of “we only want BG tears” or “BG = stackgate”, it all boils down to the fact that this is the ONLY viable option for JQ or TC to have a chance at 1st place. Also because it’s sweet revenge for being stomped in Season 1.

One thing you’ll never see is a commander from neither TC or JQ claiming that their server can match BG in manpower, coverage, tactics, or discipline/cooperation of individual players.

Eitherway, I’m getting my weapon skin.

Explain to me how anyone got stomped S1 when W1 someone got 2v1 with BG being in the 2 and the only time the 3 T1 servers matched up in one week was W1 and the last week when SoR already fell apart. Never knew stomping T2 servers was an accomplishment to BG. clapclap #bglogic

Because the 3 T1 servers didn’t have to all be in the same match for one server to win over another. W1 BG pulled ahead during the 2v1, a 2v1 that was absolutely necessary for SoR or BG to even have a chance at winning due to the terrible schedule. W2 BG beat SoR and queue implosion. W5 Blackgate beat Jade Quarry and again in W7 alongside the imploded SoR. Blackgate beat both servers fair and square and that is an accomplishment.

SqueamishMoose.9216:

I personally don’t care if we get double-teamed in the off-season, because it doesn’t matter. However, it seems rather unfair to me that Blackgate is getting double-teamed during a tournament, where the score amounts to a reward.

Hmm?

Your server deserves to be destroyed.

SqueamishMoose.9216:

It’s clearly shown that Blackgate can win against either team when they are separated and when they aren’t allied against us. I personally don’t care if we get double-teamed in the off-season, because it doesn’t matter. However, it seems rather unfair to me that Blackgate is getting double-teamed during a tournament, where the score amounts to a reward. It’s pretty much impossible for us to win if it isn’t going to be a fair fight.

Can you define a “fair” fight for me? I’d <b>love</b> to see what BG comes up with within the context of it’s victories.

BG: ANet pls send more guilds to BG, we 2v1, we pay, we pay for spy too
So much BG tears just for a low PPT, but their kitten is still sticking out and high.

Distaste.4801:

CuRtoKy.8576:

Niko Stark.8932:

It’s a 2v1 because it is the only way for JQ and TC to beat BG. Not the soft 2v1 where you have a mutual understanding of when and who to focus on, as with BG + TC and BG + SoS, but a real 2v1 where 2 servers are free to stand next to each other or back up each other’s zerg groups. Despite all the cries of “we only want BG tears” or “BG = stackgate”, it all boils down to the fact that this is the ONLY viable option for JQ or TC to have a chance at 1st place. Also because it’s sweet revenge for being stomped in Season 1.

One thing you’ll never see is a commander from neither TC or JQ claiming that their server can match BG in manpower, coverage, tactics, or discipline/cooperation of individual players.

Eitherway, I’m getting my weapon skin.

Explain to me how anyone got stomped S1 when W1 someone got 2v1 with BG being in the 2 and the only time the 3 T1 servers matched up in one week was W1 and the last week when SoR already fell apart. Never knew stomping T2 servers was an accomplishment to BG. clapclap #bglogic

Because the 3 T1 servers didn’t have to all be in the same match for one server to win over another. W1 BG pulled ahead during the 2v1, a 2v1 that was absolutely necessary for SoR or BG to even have a chance at winning due to the terrible schedule. W2 BG beat SoR and queue implosion. W5 Blackgate beat Jade Quarry and again in W7 alongside the imploded SoR. Blackgate beat both servers fair and square and that is an accomplishment.

Despite having the best coverage in Gold league… BG will finish the season either tied for third with SoS or alone in 4th… that is an accomplishment.

Shonie.5297:

Distaste.4801:

CuRtoKy.8576:

Niko Stark.8932:

It’s a 2v1 because it is the only way for JQ and TC to beat BG. Not the soft 2v1 where you have a mutual understanding of when and who to focus on, as with BG + TC and BG + SoS, but a real 2v1 where 2 servers are free to stand next to each other or back up each other’s zerg groups. Despite all the cries of “we only want BG tears” or “BG = stackgate”, it all boils down to the fact that this is the ONLY viable option for JQ or TC to have a chance at 1st place. Also because it’s sweet revenge for being stomped in Season 1.

One thing you’ll never see is a commander from neither TC or JQ claiming that their server can match BG in manpower, coverage, tactics, or discipline/cooperation of individual players.

Eitherway, I’m getting my weapon skin.

Explain to me how anyone got stomped S1 when W1 someone got 2v1 with BG being in the 2 and the only time the 3 T1 servers matched up in one week was W1 and the last week when SoR already fell apart. Never knew stomping T2 servers was an accomplishment to BG. clapclap #bglogic

Because the 3 T1 servers didn’t have to all be in the same match for one server to win over another. W1 BG pulled ahead during the 2v1, a 2v1 that was absolutely necessary for SoR or BG to even have a chance at winning due to the terrible schedule. W2 BG beat SoR and queue implosion. W5 Blackgate beat Jade Quarry and again in W7 alongside the imploded SoR. Blackgate beat both servers fair and square and that is an accomplishment.

Despite having the best coverage in Gold league… BG will finish the season either tied for third with SoS or alone in 4th… that is an accomplishment.

He is talking about season 1. Double team sure show some accomplishment.

Fayt.3802:

BG: ANet pls send more guilds to BG, we 2v1, we pay, we pay for spy too
So much BG tears just for a low PPT, but their kitten is still sticking out and high.

TC & JQ: Anet pls send us more server, we need 2v1 to win, we pay, pay we pay to BG too. We got wipe out 3 times for that camp. We sure pay our way through.

To BG: You guys have a horrible PR crew, you need to get rid of em. XD

TC and JQ are doing a great job making the NA Season 2 tournament interesting. It would have been really dull if winners were already determined from the start. Of course .. some x-fers paying cash / gems to transfer for a "certain 1st placing " may feel cheated but surely they are the minority and BG is full of Spartans there for the fight.

Bringing intrigue and alliances into WvW , I say JQ and TC deserves a special award for progressing the WvW meta. If having the biggest stacked forces / coverage does not guarantee a win, it would encourage people to invest and build solid foundations in their servers rather than auto x-fer to biggest server.

Ross Biddle.2367:

SqueamishMoose.9216:

It’s clearly shown that Blackgate can win against either team when they are separated and when they aren’t allied against us. I personally don’t care if we get double-teamed in the off-season, because it doesn’t matter. However, it seems rather unfair to me that Blackgate is getting double-teamed during a tournament, where the score amounts to a reward. It’s pretty much impossible for us to win if it isn’t going to be a fair fight.

Can you define a “fair” fight for me? I’d <b>love</b> to see what BG comes up with within the context of it’s victories.

Just to start, I’m on IoJ server.

I’d love to know what context you’re even talking about because BG has beaten both TC and JQ when they aren’t together without colluding with another server to do so. They even beat them both in round 1. Even if you want to bring up the 2v1 in S1, that was purely due to ArenaNets terrible matchups, the basics of that agreement were JQ can’t win W1 or they’ve already won the season. It had nothing to do with hating JQ, it was purely so the other two servers at least had the chance at winning.

This 2v1 isn’t because either server is at a huge disadvantage and they need to band together to compete. All 3 servers are a relatively fair matchup as far as WvW matchups go. This is done purely out of laziness, cowardice, greed, and trolling. JQ and TC were too lazy to put in extra effort to win so they decided to take the easy route and go for a 2v1 to get the rewards with the added trolling bonus of keeping BG from doing anything since the matchups were fair to begin with. It’s pathetic really that both JQ and TC that were respected servers had to resort to such tactics. I really don’t know what JQ and TC are trying to accomplish here because it just makes them look bad.

Distaste.4801:

Ross Biddle.2367:

SqueamishMoose.9216:

It’s clearly shown that Blackgate can win against either team when they are separated and when they aren’t allied against us. I personally don’t care if we get double-teamed in the off-season, because it doesn’t matter. However, it seems rather unfair to me that Blackgate is getting double-teamed during a tournament, where the score amounts to a reward. It’s pretty much impossible for us to win if it isn’t going to be a fair fight.

Can you define a “fair” fight for me? I’d <b>love</b> to see what BG comes up with within the context of it’s victories.

Just to start, I’m on IoJ server.

I’d love to know what context you’re even talking about because BG has beaten both TC and JQ when they aren’t together without colluding with another server to do so. They even beat them both in round 1. Even if you want to bring up the 2v1 in S1, that was purely due to ArenaNets terrible matchups, the basics of that agreement were JQ can’t win W1 or they’ve already won the season. It had nothing to do with hating JQ, it was purely so the other two servers at least had the chance at winning.

This 2v1 isn’t because either server is at a huge disadvantage and they need to band together to compete. All 3 servers are a relatively fair matchup as far as WvW matchups go. This is done purely out of laziness, cowardice, greed, and trolling. JQ and TC were too lazy to put in extra effort to win so they decided to take the easy route and go for a 2v1 to get the rewards with the added trolling bonus of keeping BG from doing anything since the matchups were fair to begin with. It’s pathetic really that both JQ and TC that were respected servers had to resort to such tactics. I really don’t know what JQ and TC are trying to accomplish here because it just makes them look bad.

You lost me at, (I’m on IoJ server), SOoo, I am suppose to pretend that, you may know what you are talking about? Nice try

I heard WvWvW is supposed to be unfair.

in case anyone missed it

http://captiongenerator.com/15374/Super-Secret-BG-War-Council-Meeting

Distaste.4801:

Ross Biddle.2367:

SqueamishMoose.9216:

It’s clearly shown that Blackgate can win against either team when they are separated and when they aren’t allied against us. I personally don’t care if we get double-teamed in the off-season, because it doesn’t matter. However, it seems rather unfair to me that Blackgate is getting double-teamed during a tournament, where the score amounts to a reward. It’s pretty much impossible for us to win if it isn’t going to be a fair fight.

Can you define a “fair” fight for me? I’d <b>love</b> to see what BG comes up with within the context of it’s victories.

Just to start, I’m on IoJ server.

I’d love to know what context you’re even talking about because BG has beaten both TC and JQ when they aren’t together without colluding with another server to do so. They even beat them both in round 1. Even if you want to bring up the 2v1 in S1, that was purely due to ArenaNets terrible matchups, the basics of that agreement were JQ can’t win W1 or they’ve already won the season. It had nothing to do with hating JQ, it was purely so the other two servers at least had the chance at winning.

This 2v1 isn’t because either server is at a huge disadvantage and they need to band together to compete. All 3 servers are a relatively fair matchup as far as WvW matchups go. This is done purely out of laziness, cowardice, greed, and trolling. JQ and TC were too lazy to put in extra effort to win so they decided to take the easy route and go for a 2v1 to get the rewards with the added trolling bonus of keeping BG from doing anything since the matchups were fair to begin with. It’s pathetic really that both JQ and TC that were respected servers had to resort to such tactics. I really don’t know what JQ and TC are trying to accomplish here because it just makes them look bad.

Good thing absolutely nobody cares if you think TC and JQ looks bad, IoJ person. You aren’t from BG, so your tears are currently being wasted.

If you feel strongly about the situation, the doors of BG are always open. We seek to make your feelings about this 2v1 even stronger.

Distaste.4801:

Ross Biddle.2367:

SqueamishMoose.9216:

It’s clearly shown that Blackgate can win against either team when they are separated and when they aren’t allied against us. I personally don’t care if we get double-teamed in the off-season, because it doesn’t matter. However, it seems rather unfair to me that Blackgate is getting double-teamed during a tournament, where the score amounts to a reward. It’s pretty much impossible for us to win if it isn’t going to be a fair fight.

Can you define a “fair” fight for me? I’d <b>love</b> to see what BG comes up with within the context of it’s victories.

Just to start, I’m on IoJ server.

I could have sworn I remember reading a post with you saying you were from BG. Let me find it.

Edit: found it.

As for winning coming up. I AM FROM BLACKGATE, I’ve won plenty.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Tear-down-WvW-divisions-Why-not/page/2

TC and JQ have already created a first in breaking the norm, surpassing the EU servers in coming up with new ideas / alliances and tactics to make the matchup interesting. The whole world is watching this development, even the China players on their new servers.

The worst case scenario is that players start leaving BG and it starts freefalling down the ladder to languish in Silver league. But, what’s the big deal ? Many other servers have suffered the same fate. If players start leaving BG now and make for the "sure win " servers in Silver and Bronze league, they still can get 1st place rewards.

Already you can see many BG players and guilds in Eotm rather than helping in their 4 matchup maps. I guess running the karma train there is boring but they don’t have what it takes to help fight on main maps, hence they bring their illogical comments to forums.

I know this thread won’t last long.

Had a blast tonight out in BL maps.

Came out to play / support even though this is the last weekend to Beta test Wildstar (and trust me it needs some testing).

I’ve said this repeatedly since the day after S1, BG not guaranteed to win anything and it if falls to T6 then T8, my guild and I will still be on BG as long as we are playing this game.

/salute to the folks well-met in fights tonight

And as ever, we can’t have WvW without each other.

Pay to win = okay
Play to win = not okay
#bglogic

Distaste.4801:

Just to start, I’m on IoJ server.

Distaste.4801:

As for winning coming up. I AM FROM BLACKGATE, I’ve won plenty.

I think you owe IoJ an apology.

jojojoon.8607:

Distaste.4801:

Ross Biddle.2367:

SqueamishMoose.9216:

It’s clearly shown that Blackgate can win against either team when they are separated and when they aren’t allied against us. I personally don’t care if we get double-teamed in the off-season, because it doesn’t matter. However, it seems rather unfair to me that Blackgate is getting double-teamed during a tournament, where the score amounts to a reward. It’s pretty much impossible for us to win if it isn’t going to be a fair fight.

Can you define a “fair” fight for me? I’d <b>love</b> to see what BG comes up with within the context of it’s victories.

Just to start, I’m on IoJ server.

I could have sworn I remember reading a post with you saying you were from BG. Let me find it.

Edit: found it.

As for winning coming up. I AM FROM BLACKGATE, I’ve won plenty.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Tear-down-WvW-divisions-Why-not/page/2

lol. Kids these days and wanting easy wins(participation ribbons). They are good for a laugh. Nicely done btw, jojo

SlothBear.9846:

Distaste.4801:

Just to start, I’m on IoJ server.

Twenty three days ago:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Tear-down-WvW-divisions-Why-not/page/2#post3877824

Distaste.4801:

As for winning coming up. I AM FROM BLACKGATE, I’ve won plenty.

I think you owe IoJ an apology.

LOL. That’s just downright embarassing. BG player trying to pose as IoJ player. Sad, really.

To the OP, you might want to watch the dev’s Ready Up Episode 11
They know and find it as interesting as the rest of us.

I have to say – this is a good strategy.
(posting after the moderators go for their weekend break I mean, :P)

lol. The dev who thinks the alliance is a good thing plays on TC.

Thanks, that was a good laugh.

goldenwing.8473:

lol. The dev who thinks the alliance is ok plays on TC.

Thanks, that was a good laugh.

Said: the easymode BG player

EmoDevo.3209:

SlothBear.9846:

Distaste.4801:

Just to start, I’m on IoJ server.

Twenty three days ago:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Tear-down-WvW-divisions-Why-not/page/2#post3877824

Distaste.4801:

As for winning coming up. I AM FROM BLACKGATE, I’ve won plenty.

I think you owe IoJ an apology.

LOL. That’s just downright embarassing. BG player trying to pose as IoJ player. Sad, really.

Ah dang! We were going to stop the 2v1 because someone from IoJ was opposed to it as well. Good thing he turned out to be a BG imposter! (I’m sure we all doubted someone from BG would stoop to that level…)

2v1 BACK ON!! YEAH!

I am pretty amazed that BG cant cope with a simple 2v1, considering their superior tactics and skills (as they claim on this forum). Why just not kill all those scrubs and kittens on the other 2 servers and establish map control?

Guys Guys Guys! You’re being unfair. He could very well be from IoJ. BG has to buy people from somewhere right?

:D

Couldn’t resist.

Zhrek.9781:

goldenwing.8473:

lol. The dev who thinks the alliance is ok plays on TC.

Thanks, that was a good laugh.

Said: the easymode BG player

Sorry, I can’t take the bait.

My views on WvW are pretty clear. Including supporting 2v1 in a 3-way battle. As an old DAoC player, that is a large part of what attracted me to this game.

Check my posting history if you’re interested.

I did find the video amusing. I won’t apologize for that.

Also concerned that what I’m hearing is ANet is happy with the Swiss style tournament they have employed. And them promoting server transfers.

I had a longer post today that objectively analyzed some of the issues…. as I was waiting to understand ANet’s position. (Unfortunately, the thread it was on devolved down into another match-up, much like this one.)

I believe their position is clear. I believe we will continue to see this style of tournament in the future.

Ok, accept, tolerate or move on.

It’s that simple.

off to bed.

See you on the next thread.

jojojoon.8607:

Distaste.4801:

Ross Biddle.2367:

SqueamishMoose.9216:

It’s clearly shown that Blackgate can win against either team when they are separated and when they aren’t allied against us. I personally don’t care if we get double-teamed in the off-season, because it doesn’t matter. However, it seems rather unfair to me that Blackgate is getting double-teamed during a tournament, where the score amounts to a reward. It’s pretty much impossible for us to win if it isn’t going to be a fair fight.

Can you define a “fair” fight for me? I’d <b>love</b> to see what BG comes up with within the context of it’s victories.

Just to start, I’m on IoJ server.

I could have sworn I remember reading a post with you saying you were from BG. Let me find it.

Edit: found it.

As for winning coming up. I AM FROM BLACKGATE, I’ve won plenty.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Tear-down-WvW-divisions-Why-not/page/2

Oh my god, hahahaha.
This thread already had its purpose.

goldenwing.8473:

Zhrek.9781:

goldenwing.8473:

lol. The dev who thinks the alliance is ok plays on TC.

Thanks, that was a good laugh.

Said: the easymode BG player

Sorry, I can’t take the bait.

My views on WvW are pretty clear. Including supporting 2v1 in a 3-way battle. As an old DAoC player, that is a large part of what attracted me to this game.

Check my posting history if you’re interested.

I did find the video amusing. I won’t apologize for that.

Also concerned that what I’m hearing is ANet is happy with the Swiss style tournament they have employed. And them promoting server transfers.

I had a longer post today that objectively analyzed some of the issues…. as I was waiting to understand ANet’s position. (Unfortunately, the thread it was on devolved down into another match-up, much like this one.)

I believe their position is clear. I believe we will continue to see this style of tournament in the future.

Ok, accept, tolerate or move on.

It’s that simple.

off to bed.

See you on the next thread.

Maybe i am drunk, but, I am not sure what you are trying to say here

These two random noname servers are just mad because BG is superior.

mango.9267:

Reverence.6915:

mango.9267:

Reverence.6915:

blur.7905:

Well it seem like server unofficial alliances and match manipulation is the way forward. Well done anet now not only you can buy guild you can buy server as well. As if the unbalance is not bad enough. I will wait and see how people will react when unofficial alliances and match manipulation happen on their server. Only by then people will see the problem it create.

It won’t happen outside of T1 in NA. It has to have the agreement and cooperation of all major and minor guilds on 2 servers. I think in any other instance, such a meta may have never been created at all.

Actually, alliances and match manipulation happen all the time. Not all of them are as consistent or long-lasting as the JQ/TC alliance. But servers in the past have definitely made alliances and manipulated points. The most notable example in recent memory was the YB/EBay alliance last season.

To address blur’s point, it won’t be a problem. Anet has already given the passive okay on this. And it’s unlikely to be maintained offseason, when there’s no motivation to manipulate matches.

The YB and EBay alliance I would say, is similar to the BG/SoR alliance in S1, where we focused down JQ. I’m pretty sure YB and EBay weren’t protecting each other’s structures if they were in danger of being flipped by SBI and karma training SBI’d structures by having 2 map zergs inside a keep and waiting for RI cool down to swap caps

To my understanding, that’s exactly what happened. YB and EBay protected each other and only hit SBI. When YB had enough of a lead, they purposely gave up their structures to EBay and let EBay gain enough points to overtake SBI, putting SBI into third.

You are correct – it seemed quite lame when it went THAT far late in the week (wasn’t that way earlier, but oh the forum thread). That was the point when I said see you all next week….

jojojoon.8607:

Distaste.4801:

Ross Biddle.2367:

SqueamishMoose.9216:

It’s clearly shown that Blackgate can win against either team when they are separated and when they aren’t allied against us. I personally don’t care if we get double-teamed in the off-season, because it doesn’t matter. However, it seems rather unfair to me that Blackgate is getting double-teamed during a tournament, where the score amounts to a reward. It’s pretty much impossible for us to win if it isn’t going to be a fair fight.

Can you define a “fair” fight for me? I’d <b>love</b> to see what BG comes up with within the context of it’s victories.

Just to start, I’m on IoJ server.

I could have sworn I remember reading a post with you saying you were from BG. Let me find it.

Edit: found it.

As for winning coming up. I AM FROM BLACKGATE, I’ve won plenty.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Tear-down-WvW-divisions-Why-not/page/2

wow OMG. this is pure gold. So the tear is not wasted?

Junkpile.7439:

These two random noname servers are just mad because BG is superior.

maybe 1 day euro, will catch up on the game

http://captiongenerator.com/15374/Super-Secret-BG-War-Council-Meeting

This is just not getting old yet

Distaste.4801:

Ross Biddle.2367:

SqueamishMoose.9216:

It’s clearly shown that Blackgate can win against either team when they are separated and when they aren’t allied against us. I personally don’t care if we get double-teamed in the off-season, because it doesn’t matter. However, it seems rather unfair to me that Blackgate is getting double-teamed during a tournament, where the score amounts to a reward. It’s pretty much impossible for us to win if it isn’t going to be a fair fight.

Can you define a “fair” fight for me? I’d <b>love</b> to see what BG comes up with within the context of it’s victories.

Just to start, I’m on IoJ server.

I’d love to know what context you’re even talking about because BG has beaten both TC and JQ when they aren’t together without colluding with another server to do so. They even beat them both in round 1. Even if you want to bring up the 2v1 in S1, that was purely due to ArenaNets terrible matchups, the basics of that agreement were JQ can’t win W1 or they’ve already won the season. It had nothing to do with hating JQ, it was purely so the other two servers at least had the chance at winning.

This 2v1 isn’t because either server is at a huge disadvantage and they need to band together to compete. All 3 servers are a relatively fair matchup as far as WvW matchups go. This is done purely out of laziness, cowardice, greed, and trolling. JQ and TC were too lazy to put in extra effort to win so they decided to take the easy route and go for a 2v1 to get the rewards with the added trolling bonus of keeping BG from doing anything since the matchups were fair to begin with. It’s pathetic really that both JQ and TC that were respected servers had to resort to such tactics. I really don’t know what JQ and TC are trying to accomplish here because it just makes them look bad.

I am from BG and absolutely love the 2v1, it makes things a lot more interesting, season 1 was a bore and I really had no plans for coming back for season 2 until a few remaining guildies told me to check out whats going on in WvW, I could care less about PPT so I have been hooked because the fights have been a blast, its a lot more fun when the odds are stacked against you.

But back to topic, unfortunately what JQ and TC are doing IMO is not making them look bad its going to change the game, Anet will use this as its excuse to implement the Red vs Blue vs Green system it had mentioned to “combat” match manipulation. So with that I am going to have my fun while it last, this may very well be the last season of server rivalries.

Deadcell.9052
Anet will use this as its excuse to implement the Red vs Blue vs Green system it had mentioned to “combat” match manipulation.

Where did you get this new Red vs Blue vs Green system from?

Press M for map : easter egg for Season 3 !

The day Guild Wars, Dumbs down WvW that low for the care bear’s, is the day this game dies, lets hope that day never comes

SqueamishMoose.9216:

So it’s become pretty apparent that Blackgate is being actively double-teamed by the Tarnished Coast and Jade Quarry. It’s a strategy that they’ve used against us frequently before the tournament, and all you need to do is look at the tournament scores to see when they’re double-teaming us.
In the first round, we faced JQ and TC and soundly beat them 276k to 224k and 240k, respectively.
The next round, we only faced TC of the two, and beat them by 30k.
The third round was when JQ and TC began to double-team us in the tournament, shown by how Blackgate was butchered 168k to Jade Quarry’s 277k and Tarnished Coast’s 258k.
The fourth round, we faced only JQ of the pair, and soundly beat them by 40k.
This pattern continues, as anyone can see by looking at the scores documented on the wiki. It’s clearly shown that Blackgate can win against either team when they are separated and when they aren’t allied against us. I personally don’t care if we get double-teamed in the off-season, because it doesn’t matter. However, it seems rather unfair to me that Blackgate is getting double-teamed during a tournament, where the score amounts to a reward. It’s pretty much impossible for us to win if it isn’t going to be a fair fight.
My main question is:
Does ArenaNet realize this is going on, and if they do, do they plan on doing anything about it? Can they do anything about it? Is it considered fair for unofficial alliances to be formed, or is it an unfair disadvantage because there is no real counter to it?

I dunno why you expect Anet to do anything about it. Your post demonstrates your server is completely imbalanced since no other server in the entire game has any chance against yours unless they team up and play tactically against yours. You can’t really complain about a fair fight when your server can’t offer a fair fight against any other server.

Selling tears for $200 bucks a gallon. May cause rash. Contact me ingame

blur.7905:

Deadcell.9052
Anet will use this as its excuse to implement the Red vs Blue vs Green system it had mentioned to “combat” match manipulation.

Where did you get this new Red vs Blue vs Green system from?

Was mentioned in the last CDI and was really the only topic in that discussion that the Dev brought up and replied to several times, which means IMO it was on their radar and even though the majority of the post following said they didnt like it, based in Anets history it will most likely be implemented lol.

Shadowkiller.6725:

in case anyone missed it

http://captiongenerator.com/15374/Super-Secret-BG-War-Council-Meeting

This was the best thing to come out of this 2v1.

“Casuals.”

Protoavis.9107:

SqueamishMoose.9216:

So it’s become pretty apparent that Blackgate is being actively double-teamed by the Tarnished Coast and Jade Quarry. It’s a strategy that they’ve used against us frequently before the tournament, and all you need to do is look at the tournament scores to see when they’re double-teaming us.
In the first round, we faced JQ and TC and soundly beat them 276k to 224k and 240k, respectively.
The next round, we only faced TC of the two, and beat them by 30k.
The third round was when JQ and TC began to double-team us in the tournament, shown by how Blackgate was butchered 168k to Jade Quarry’s 277k and Tarnished Coast’s 258k.
The fourth round, we faced only JQ of the pair, and soundly beat them by 40k.
This pattern continues, as anyone can see by looking at the scores documented on the wiki. It’s clearly shown that Blackgate can win against either team when they are separated and when they aren’t allied against us. I personally don’t care if we get double-teamed in the off-season, because it doesn’t matter. However, it seems rather unfair to me that Blackgate is getting double-teamed during a tournament, where the score amounts to a reward. It’s pretty much impossible for us to win if it isn’t going to be a fair fight.
My main question is:
Does ArenaNet realize this is going on, and if they do, do they plan on doing anything about it? Can they do anything about it? Is it considered fair for unofficial alliances to be formed, or is it an unfair disadvantage because there is no real counter to it?

I dunno why you expect Anet to do anything about it. Your post demonstrates your server is completely imbalanced since no other server in the entire game has any chance against yours unless they team up and play tactically against yours. You can’t really complain about a fair fight when your server can’t offer a fair fight against any other server.

+1, Even Though BG doesn’t listen to logic. Kids need there easy mode tickets punched

Think they double team just for the fact that threads like these will show up. Is Blackgate full with whiners when they cant win or so?

A 2v1 should be no problem for #Beastgate I mean you guys are the best right….oh wait nvm #bgtears

What happened to all the BG Chest thumpers?

Holly I miss you

Zhrek.9781:

The day Guild Wars, Dumbs down WvW that low for the care bear’s, is the day this game dies, lets hope that day never comes

I don’t think it can become any more carebear.

And if anyone cares here about winning, it is JQ and TC. They have traded their pride for more rewards.