Guild Wars 2

Still waiting on this broken condition to be nerfed Anet, hop on it bro. The mechanic in GW1 was very well done. It didn’t 100% kitten over any skill you use. It gave you a 10% chance to hit still. Vs now anybody with blind can totally ruin anything you have for your next hit. Aoe/Spikes/ Hell even the LB Burst… when it lands and pulses. if you are blinded half way through, the pulse effect it will miss.. WTF lol?

Not even a matter of skill anymore, Theives can just apply it any time they want with kitten near everything, some other classes can use it too but Theives are abusing the kitten out of it now. I literally cannot retaliate against it. I just have to either cleanse it and hope the kitten game gets the blind and not the weakness or the cripple, or just wait it out and let the little spammer hit me or risk losing a valuable attack.

If you are going to nerf the crap out of the Warrior for no reason at all, at least put that nerf bat to some use and hit blind with it getting old losing to a scrub who just sits in his blind field and auto attacks out of it with Perplex runes.

Fix it.

Well just step out of the blind fields?

Im not in the blind field. The scrub just sits in it and auto attacks out of it with Perplex runes. If I try to retaliate I get a big screw you letter from Anet and a miss from my PBAoE skill (Stomp).

I think mechanically Blind is fine. But it does last rather long if you have a little +Condition Duration. Imo it should only last 2-3 seconds at most.

But I agree it is too abundant on some builds. P/D Thieves are obviously main contenders here as they have abundant access to Blind, both in Field-form as well as a directed attack. They even have a trait that Blinds as well. That’s all rather a lot.

I agree with you Dee Jay, I have no issue with Blind itself, I really don’t but how they “Redesigned” it is just lazy.. pure lazy. They had a good form for it in GW1 with the 90% to miss but it stayed on you into it ran out or it got removed. Now, it is guaranteed to make ANYTHING miss no matter what it is or how powerful it is or anything hell even a PvE boss will miss with its attacks if you time it right. Am I suppose to think that a PBAoE should miss when it doesn’t even target? Or hell even the skills that don’t even belong to you anymore (Illusions will miss if you are blinded).

As I said my problem isn’t blind.. it needs to be in here, but how they designed it is lazy and needs to be redone. IE 90% chance to miss and it stays on until you remove it or it falls off.

The blind mechanic currently is just fine. While blind spam can be an issues while fighting D/P thieves, the majority of the time the mechanic currently allows for skilled play without RNG. Since it only impacts the next hit and is 100% miss chance, it allows skilled players to blind the proper attacks to avoid damage. If it was only a X% chance to miss it’d take some skill out of the game, which is a bad thing.

Helly I can agree and go with it, if and only if, they instead of going back to GW1 they make it so PBAoE’s do NOT miss. Or any non-targeted skill. Or aspects of the game that do not relate to you that miss. (LB Burst Pulsing effect/ Mesmer Illusions missing / Engi Bombs missing).

>>But I agree it is too abundant on some builds. P/D Thieves are obviously main contenders here as they have abundant access to Blind, both in Field-form as well as a directed attack.

Are you sure you do not mean d/p?

There no direct attack in p/d that has blind. You can only get it through a combo field.

Im talking blind in general, I just use Theives as an example because I am sure a lot can relate to it.

>>Im talking blind in general, I just use Theives as an example because I am sure a lot can relate to it.

I was responding to Dee Jay who had suggested the p/d thief has direct access to blind via an attack. This is not the case. In order to get blind one must trait for blind on stealth and then use CND when in range of an enemy in order to blind. This is heavy on initiative and misses as often as it hits.

Alternatively a p/d thief can take a utility that stealths along with that trait from the SA line to get that blind but this not at will as there is cooldown on those other skills.

There only one weapon set in the thieves skill set with heavy access to blind and that d/p. If I wanted a thief relying on lots of blinds I would use that set or perhaps s/p.

Thieves can not apply it any time they want unless they specifically trait for it and key on blind as part of their skill set.

Other classes could choose to inflict blind with almost as great a frequency but choose not to because they have more effective builds.

So let me posit this question to you. If other classes can inflict blind via traits or weapon skills but choose not to , is that because blind too powerful?

Curby.4897:

Im not in the blind field. The scrub just sits in it and auto attacks out of it with Perplex runes. If I try to retaliate I get a big screw you letter from Anet and a miss from my PBAoE skill (Stomp).

Sigh. The problem isn’t blind. The problem is the broken rune set known as perplexity.

The OP is joking guys.

Blind in GW1 was utterly broken and everyone knows it.

Elementalists PERMANENTLY maintaining blind on 2-4 people (4 sec recharge, cleanse recharge way too long, except antidote signet, also 4 sec recharge, meaning the ranger was perma blinded anyway).

You couldn’t play pvp as a melee, because casters were the kings of the universe.

Also if you guys read he says the guy sits there in perplex, he is obviously p/p perplex Condi thief, auto attack will apply blinds through field.

Poor warrior, complaining about one condition, I pity you, too bad you don’t have high health, armor, attack, and mobility. Oh wait…

On a more serious note, this is like complaining about blocks and evades. Using a blind tactically can save your life, and just because a warrior can’t apply a lot of it, doesn’t mean you need to rage. It’s not broken because it disappears after you attack. If it screws up a chain cc, that is more beneficial to the game and primitive of skillful play than a broken mechanic.

^ The ability to spam blind with no thought of cooldown management is not skilful play.

Just saying.

Same goes with evade frames.

And before you misread it, yes I’m referring to thief. All skilled play goes out the window with that class.

Realist.5812:

^ The ability to spam blind with no thought of cooldown management is not skilful play.

Just saying.

Same goes with evade frames.

And before you misread it, yes I’m referring to thief. All skilled play goes out the window with that class.

Your a warrior. This is just so sad to read. I wouldn’t doubt it if you haven’t played a thief at level 80 before. I have a warrior and that is truly the class that takes no skill. I went into a fight with a hammer on my warrior about 5 minutes at level 80, literally pounded all of my skills, and the enemy was dead. That’s WARRIOR, not THIEF.

Now for some real content. Blind spam is on d/p and s/p. d/p uses it to gain stealth. If you get blinded, you are kittened for standing in the red circle filed with smoke. S/p used it because they don’t have really any stealth. So it is a primary way to have survivability. Again, if you aren’t smart enough to not stand in a red ring filled with black smoke, you honestly deserve to die to that thief, or struggle at the least.