Guild Wars 2

I think this video and descriptions sounds interesting.

BUT why the hell should it be part of WvW?

It would be much better as another play-mode!!!
A play-ground on it’s own for all that like bigger-scale than pvp and smaller scale than WvW.

Sperate the Maps and Speparate the score and voila. both the Pro’s and the Contra’s should be happy.

And if you already do that: Add an empty map as GvG-playground as another further mode as well.

Instead of forcing everything into the same ALREADY LAAGY mode, provide different modes for different players/moods.

…game over.

GvG’s ruined.
Chances of fair fights ruined.
Chances of fighting vs higher ranked servers ruined.

making one server’s players stronger ruined wvw when you had orbs, why did you think its gonna be different now?

gg anet.

p.s. the map change isnt bad at all. the buff would be fine if it contributed to the tick or something score based instead of stats based. also after a year we still only really have 2 wvw maps. making each borderland different would help a lot to make wvw more interesting; certainly better than giving one side an advantage to the others.

Guess you better stop playing then…. the patch has been up for what…. no more then 30min and already crying. Just go play something else.

I really thought there was nothing the Devs could do that would really make me hate them… boy was I wrong :/ the patch has been up for no more than 30 min, like you say. Baruch is rolling over all of us with zergs, groups of 5, groups of 10, groups of 3, all with +150 to all stats. kittening great. It takes15 of us to kill 3 of them.

Agree with the above,
they took the balance out,and not just a little bit,they wrecked it.
server with the most players wins,end off story

zergs still win, wtg Anet.

@toymachine if you login 5 mins after update to find strongest server to got the server cus they own the center on all maps…
they just made a hard fight an impossible one…

i was playing this game only for WvW, you ruined WvW with this new patch

Wow what a terrible idea.

Reward the server with the most coverage/players with extra power.

I just can’t see the thinking behind it.

RIP WvW

Meh. I don’t disagree on any particular point, but it’s been said over and over. They clearly expect something wondrous to happen here, and it’s too late to prevent it, so right now all we can do is let it play out and hope that if it does fail they’ll be willing to take the stat buffs out again.

This is the reasons orbs were removed in the first place, I don’t understand why they are back.
Unbalanced matchups will snowball even more…
Being a “small scale” roamer myself, this addition to WvW is disheartening and demoralizing.

I’m sure it’s going to be a blast for Seafarer’s rest, but please think of the servers that struggle against odds and zergs every day.

I guess GTA 5 did came out for a reason.

Changing the stacking stat buffs was already requested for removal, but you know Anet knows best.
+150 power/vitality/crit/healing power/etc cannot possibly be unbalancing if everybody on your server has it.
All you need is the most coverage, and you can faceroll the other servers.
Perhaps Anet might consider having a public test server.

MarMaster.6241:

Changing the stacking stat buffs was already requested for removal, but you know Anet knows best.
+150 power/vitality/crit/healing power/etc cannot possibly be unbalancing if everybody on your server has it.
All you need is the most coverage, and you can faceroll the other servers.
Perhaps Anet might consider having a public test server.

Anet does not care about WvW!
they only care about their Spvp Esport which blows. that should have been enough for us to see that this game will never be what we thought it could be.

The biggest Zerg wins. It makes it easier to bash the less populated servers out of the maps even faster.

The spvp community will happily welcome all of you.

fett.9573:

amazing the amount of crying that goes on on the forums. Are we going to have another 10+ threads from the gvg crowd crying about the new buff now? (vocal minority and all, of course they will listen to you! /sarcasm off

Good to see your attention span is below 3 seconds, because that is how long you spent reading this thread.

This is about make losing servers lose even harder and giving an even greater advantage to servers with the bigger numbers.

Having fun in T1.
http://imgur.com/sjeVoCE

GIving us more space to fight = a good idea, since no one fights in the water

Giving strong realms a buff that eventually gives 150 to stats = redicilous, better replace it with the sucky meaningless outnumbered buff

GG Anet creating more imbalance to world vs world

Rufy.6093:

The spvp community will happily welcome all of you.

If only they would give us what we need to have out GvG’s
but since anet could care less about it we wont be going there. sorry.

Well… Anet logic: "Hmm, how to make the majority of players happy(to be read “the t1/2 servers”)… I know – give them stat buffs, then additional rewards in form of leagues… yep, that would work and everyone that complains, well, they are a vocal minority."

That took what, less than an hour?

And now finding people to duel, one of the things I enjoyed, is completely ruined.

fett.9573:

amazing the amount of crying that goes on on the forums. Are we going to have another 10+ threads from the gvg crowd crying about the new buff now? (vocal minority and all, of course they will listen to you! /sarcasm off

You think it’s only people crying who attend in GvG’s? the servers with most numbers/most coverage will win with this buff, it doesnt only affect gvg players it affects everyone, so gtfo

TC FTW, we rock that’s why.

Exactly the same in the YB/SBI/BP matchup – ho hum…

Nah, that sucks.

Who wants to win fights because of a cheesy buff?

Plus, just wait until we have to play SoR, BG or JQ in the fabulous new “League” that’s coming. It’s going to be kitten us.

toymachine.1673:

Guess you better stop playing then…. the patch has been up for what…. no more then 30min and already crying. Just go play something else.

LOL. If you think that it’s going to take any time at all playing the game to understand the effect bloodlust will have on WvW you shouldn’t be playing it either … for different reasons, of course.

Over 100k score difference + Orbs <3
http://imgur.com/sjeVoCE

fett.9573:

amazing the amount of crying that goes on on the forums. Are we going to have another 10+ threads from the gvg crowd crying about the new buff now? (vocal minority and all, of course they will listen to you! /sarcasm off

If you are the majority you could call us the intelligent minority instead.

This forum had hundreds of posts from veteran WvWvW players telling that the bloodlust on BL was a bad idea. It just adds more power to the winning server, making already imbalanced matches even more imbalanced. We already had the Power of the Mists, which was also doing the same (even up to +10% bonus to vitality, healing power based on your WvWvW server score). Both should be removed / changed immediately. I want even match ups, not that one side face rolls the others.

I don’t wanna repeat what I already posted on the buffs topic, but here is very short summary. Defensive buffs for the weakest (outnumbered side), especially their structures and NPCs, make sense, but adding any offensive buffs to any side, especially to the winning side, doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.

I used to be called the King of the Lake or the Lord of the Lake by the members of Desolation WvWvW community. I spent a lot of time in the lake and really enjoyed the underwater fights. Now I am king of nothing. The lake is almost 100% gone. I am incredibly sad, beyond words to express what I feel. The new map replacing the lake looks ugly. Instead of something more creative, why to add yet another ruins? Why to entirely remove water combat from WvWvW? Nobody was forcing anybody to enter the lake, thus it was optional. Versatility is good, especially when it is not forced.

This is the day when WvWvW died.

Ayna Micro

PS. Attached a screenshot. Normally SFR, Kodash and Desolation would be ticking roughly equal score at prime time. See income evolution history:
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/15

Right now Desolation is ticking 35 and SFR is ticking 590 and has all the 3 blood lust stacks. Trying to hold them is very difficult as SFR has far greater number of players. A good game should be fun for all sides involved. I do not understand how this could be fun for all.

i knew it that it will turn out like that, this mechanic is fail, you guys from arenanet are not aware of the real issue, more peope = win, from now on even a bigger gap between the strong and weak populated servers, gratz

fett.9573:

amazing the amount of crying that goes on on the forums. Are we going to have another 10+ threads from the gvg crowd crying about the new buff now? (vocal minority and all, of course they will listen to you! /sarcasm off

Could care less about GvG… but facing a server with superior numbers already makes this near impossible. STRONG=STRONGER

Hey ANET why don’t you sticky this thread. While you “COLLECT YOUR DATA.” We’ll continue to sit here and say we told you so…..

Mean while why don’t you go collect data on whether the sun rises and sets everyday..just to confirm that it actually happens….common sense…must not be so common

orfeoulis.4325:

Over 100k score difference + Orbs <3
http://imgur.com/sjeVoCE

Myself being in SFR, i absolutely hate this!

- No Fun in owning everything due to Buffs.
- No Fun in owning everything because of the zergs difference.
- No Fun in having everything in the morning and no actual capping and battling.
- No Fun at all… I fail to see ANet’s logics. I really do…

I’ll guess i have to PvE the crap out of the game and start searching for a Mass PvP oriented game. For me this game crossed that barrier.

PS: RIP Quaggans. You were doing more for the WvW than those Ruins of Power ever will.

They removed the orbs for a very good reason, why.. why bring them back?

You just ruined duels, you just ruined guild vs guild meetings.. you just ruined the fun out of lone roamers like myself… and worst of all, you just made the strongest server even stronger

Dear god, whats happening to developers lately? Do they even play games and understand whats best for them?

Please hold while we collect data, we obviously could not have forseen this

Boy it’s a good thing NO ONE saw this coming…prepare for the incoming forum posts!!

Looks like the solution is to build trebs in the keeps and 1 or 2 stay there to treb the ruin. Time to lvl up treb mastery. Looks like they only care about spvp ¬¬.

It was a terrible idea.

fett.9573:

amazing the amount of crying that goes on on the forums. Are we going to have another 10+ threads from the gvg crowd crying about the new buff now? (vocal minority and all, of course they will listen to you! /sarcasm off

Are you seriously saying that you think GvG’ers are the only ones who think the bloodlust buff is bad?? Could you possibly be so dense that you don’t realize what giving the stronger server 150 buff to all stats will look like? You do realize that the buff can only be removed by one of the weaker servers taking control of THREE of the five capture points, right? That rules out any sort of alliance to balance things.

The amount of crying on the forums may be amazing (actually not so much considering the state of WvW), but the amount of ignorance can be even greater as you’ve just shown.

xDudisx.5914:

Looks like the solution is to build trebs in the keeps and 1 or 2 stay there to treb the ruin. Time to lvl up treb mastery. Looks like they only care about spvp ¬¬.

What have they done for spvp? This patch was for you guys. Sure they failed, but still they give you much more attention.

To make things even worse. The server, which has superior coverage and number of players is getting 3 points per stomp. Yet another stupid idea.

Ayna Micro

PS. I am NOT whining, because I died. I have not died in WvWvW today, but I saw my fellow Desolation players ganked and stomped left and right. This just feels so bad. Despite I run a CC build, I don’t have enough interrupts to stop all those stomps.

Rufy.6093:

xDudisx.5914:

Looks like the solution is to build trebs in the keeps and 1 or 2 stay there to treb the ruin. Time to lvl up treb mastery. Looks like they only care about spvp ¬¬.

What have they done for spvp? This patch was for you guys. Sure they failed, but still they give you much more attention.

Attention? lol
this patch is an attempt to get all GvG guild to leave WvW and make a new home in Spvp. Sadly Spvp will never fit with the GVG guilds.

We already know that the server w/ the most coverage will win.

So far, I’m enjoying this update because so many people to fight with at the ruins, and if you focus at those power nodes, the enemy can secretly cap your land. Now you have more items to take care of rather than just the ordinary ones.

We’re now forced to have at least 3 parties to take care of the map.

1 for offense

2. for defense

3. for nodes

versus the old ways of 1 mega zerg

and you can still do gvgs, just that both guilds will have blood lust. just try it now

Update: got our orb back, lost hills. Turns out the server with more people can simultaneously take objectives and harass the orb buff. Who knew?

It’s amazing.

This pretty much reflects what’s gonna happen, maybe not at prime time but off-peak times definitely, absolutely idiotic to add stat boosts to the buffs imo.

Brando.1374:

Rufy.6093:

xDudisx.5914:

Looks like the solution is to build trebs in the keeps and 1 or 2 stay there to treb the ruin. Time to lvl up treb mastery. Looks like they only care about spvp ¬¬.

What have they done for spvp? This patch was for you guys. Sure they failed, but still they give you much more attention.

Attention? lol
this patch is an attempt to get all GvG guild to leave WvW and make a new home in Spvp. Sadly Spvp will never fit with the GVG guilds.

You sound like one of those conspiracy nuts.

Rufy.6093:

xDudisx.5914:

Looks like the solution is to build trebs in the keeps and 1 or 2 stay there to treb the ruin. Time to lvl up treb mastery. Looks like they only care about spvp ¬¬.

What have they done for spvp? This patch was for you guys. Sure they failed, but still they give you much more attention.

Would be better for them stop caring about their game, if this is what “attention” results.

And on top of that, when comes to Outmanned Anet stance is “We want to keep them useless so you don’t get blamed for being the guy that makes outmanned go away”.
But giving 150+ at all stats on larger server is totally ok.

Seriously.

im sad because i think guild wars 2 is a fantastic game with a lot of potential

yet seeing my favorite game be crippled by just incomprehensible design choices, its just heart-breaking

Sovereign.1093:

We already know that the server w/ the most coverage will win.

now, better server is rewarded with more health, power a crit power, enjoy loosers on weaker server!