Guild Wars 2

I agree, Sorrow’s Furnace needs to switch to a higher tier, they definitely have too many people on their side to be considered a tier 8 server.

I’m from SF and I seriously doubt T7 will be at all easy for us. Our strategy isn’t refined anywhere close to the level it needs to be, and communication / organization isn’t that great.

thats odd i thought you were complaining about us being too easy earlier

well. right now I think SF is burning out due to lack of challenge and no change in opponent. Definitely getting less participation. That coupled with the faulty math will set SF back this week significantly. Don’t expect SF in T7 any time soon.

If we get the chance, I think we (SF) are going to struggle in T7.
We have a very light night crew, it just so happens FC/ET has an even lighter night crew (lucky for us).
We may very well belong in tier 8, but when we keep winning by a notable margin and are losing points for it, we start to wonder if we belong here or if the math is improperly keeping us here.
Unfortunately we have been in T8 with a significantly larger population than the other two servers for so long that:
-We are getting lazy because when you are virtually guaranteed a win through numbers, priorities on the battlefield naturally go out the window.
-We are not communicating well at all. CoSa is even split in to multiple guilds and sometimes communication is not shared between them.
-We don’t need to progress our strategies because facerolling will continue to work while we are stuck here.
-Lots of us are playing a lot more sPvP and even PvE than we would if we were in an exciting match-up (perpetuating the problem, but it’s only natural that this will happen).

The longer we sit in T8, the less likely we will be to succeed in T7 if ever given the chance. If T7 has a decent sized night crew, we likely belong right where we are at, which would mean there simply isn’t a server that would be a good match-up for ET/FC, and I hope that is not the case.
I’ve been in SF before official launch and I am getting burned out to the point of contemplating a move to a medium tier. I fear that if we are not given a chance to move up soon, by the time we do, we will fail hard due to the reasons listed above, then everybody will say something to the effect of “see, you guys didn’t belong in T7” even though if this change had happened months earlier and we didn’t atrophy so much, we may have had a real shot.

Tl;dr
-Being stuck in T8 is making us lazy.
-We have never had great server communication.
-We have never had a large night crew.
-We are losing players from WvW to PvE/sPvP (due to boredom) prolonging our stay in T8.
-My guild needs to get a lot more organized if we are going to prepare for T7 (I suspect our other large SF guilds need the same, but cannot speak for them).

i dont understand why anet came up with this point system.. honestly your rating should be based on your score in comparison to the average score of all 3 servers

find the average of all 3 servers scores and divide by 1000.. then take each server score divide by 1000 and subtract the average from that and that would be you +/- rating change.. you could change it from 1000 to 100 for faster server rating increase/decrease for when guilds transfer. this could also help to keep matches diverse so you are not always facing the same server over and over again.

this could create a problem with tier 8 servers being at a rating of 0 but putting a floor for rating could cause other issues as well.. if the floor is 1000 and you have 4 servers with 1000 rating then what tier do they belong in?

another thing anet could do is auto reset the ratings quarterly.. start everyone at 1000.. this way t8 servers would at least get to have different matchups and not stuck with the same server that dominates them. i would definitely hate to imagine what it would be like if Kaineng could not get out of t8 due to the rating system.

whatever it is, anet needs to do something to take the pressure off of FC and ET.. even if GoM or HoD dropped to t8 and lets say they dominated,, at least its a different server. i would rather get destroyed by a different server than to just lose to the same server over and over again. im in GoM and excited about the chance to face NSP again. they might stomp us but its exciting because its a change of pace.

Please do something to resolve this detrimental system Anet.

http://i.imgur.com/8qsBpps.png

This is really hurting Sorrow’s Furnace WvW population. I don’t find any of the quality Commanders (other than CoSA) in WvW anymore, and talking to the ones who used to be in there its all of the same general consensus.

The quality of players and strategy that we gathered to try push ourselves out of Tier 8 is going away. We should not be punished for not 100%’ing the entire map constantly when there is absolutely nothing fun or entertaining about it.

I mean it’s to the point that the only map chat I see anymore is Commanders asking for status updates, with trolling responses because nobody cares. The lack of versatility with this system is going to turn SF into a legitimate Tier 8 server by method of boredom and lack of purpose, if that’s your goal then congratulations it looks like it will be accomplished soon.

The game should be fun and enjoyable in any tier, it’s just frustrating and fruitless anymore.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Sorrow’s is losing points this week. Oh happy day!