Guild Wars 2

I know the “trinity” wanted to be done away with, but as DMG and stats keep going up, its pretty much just glass cannon, and slightly less glass cannon.

Keeps getting worse with ascended armors too.

Why isnt WvW balanced like SPvP?

Are you saying you want the amulet/jewel system? I would totally love that as I spend most of my time in wvw/pvp but have to do pve to get equipment for wvw… I know people like using their pve gear in wvw though, so I’m sure most won’t go for it.

More importantly I’d love for pvp skill balances to roll over to wvw…

No please, to the amulet jewel system. sPvP gets rid a LOT of variety and custom builds that I spent a lot of time on for WvW. I’d rather not see all that work gone or even trivialized.

As far as skill balances and damage, if you really think WvW is glass canon focused, you are wrong. Especially within higher tiers. Beyond this, WvW is seperate from sPvP because it contains PvE and PvP elements.

If you want purely PvP go into sPvP/tPvP, and ask for additions to accomodate what you think is missing there. Don’t screw up WvW for those that enjoy the structure as it is.

I think lower levels should get better stat boost though. The gap will get larger and larger as the game gets older and older if something is not done. I think it is bad for the game overall because it discourages new players from trying WvW and it discourages veteran players from re-rolling. Being bumped to level 80 was a huge step for the MMO community, they just need to tweak the stats some. Make it fair and fun for the new guy. He is already at a huge disadvantage because he doesn’t know his skills or the people he is fighting. No need to add the fact that he is hitting for 250 damage but taking 1K damage from auto-attacks.

Actually I’d prefer spvp to get the wvw gear system, except without the grind. Spvp would be significantly more enjoyable if it allowed the level of customization you can get from full gear and food.

I like them both as is. You’re crazy if you think WvW is all glass cannon

CrassBippy.4619:

I know the “trinity” wanted to be done away with, but as DMG and stats keep going up, its pretty much just glass cannon, and slightly less glass cannon.

Keeps getting worse with ascended armors too.

Why isnt WvW balanced like SPvP?

Please change topic title to : "can i have " and don’t speak in the name of an comunity who disagree with you
damage go up , defence can go up also, depends on what are you up too.
ascended is too easy to get at this moment, from daily /monthly
Why would you play an game with 6 diferent builds, based on 6 amulets, when you can make 1000 diferent builds from armors and accesory’s ?

I’d have to say no to this one. Half the reason I PvP less than I arguably ought to is how
bloody generic the gear is. I’d rather not see WvW become that homogenized. It works for PvP since you’re dealing with small groups, but it’d absolutely frack Wv3 over.
As for upscaling, it’s possible to kill a “proper” 80 with an upscale (particularily at level 60+), so that comes down to player skill.

No, no, no, no, no.

The amulet system is terrible as it is and I love the armor, stats, and skins that I worked very hard for so that I could look awesome and be geared to my perfect spec while I WvW. Open World PvP has always been this way, not everyone has the same gear. I already hate sPvP enough because of lack of variety, failed stat combinations (see PPV Knight’s like wtf?), and the gear you have looks terrible and you can’t use your gear from the actual game (like GW1, I had a warrior I made in PvE and played PvP with him extensively).

CrassBippy.4619:

I know the “trinity” wanted to be done away with, but as DMG and stats keep going up, its pretty much just glass cannon, and slightly less glass cannon.

Keeps getting worse with ascended armors too.

Why isnt WvW balanced like SPvP?

Glass builds = free bags. As for the SPvP system in WvW, it just wouldn’t work currently without a full rebuild. The biggest issue with any major change is that Anet is not capable of backdating rewards.

So anyone that wanted kills/karma/badges/time spent converted to say a new currency system to purchase skins ala SPvP lockers menu. Anet wouldn’t be able to do it. It would literally kill the game. SPvP is already a failure and a development year behind even matching GW1 arenas.

AshinDreidon.3861:

Are you saying you want the amulet/jewel system? I would totally love that as I spend most of my time in wvw/pvp but have to do pve to get equipment for wvw… I know people like using their pve gear in wvw though, so I’m sure most won’t go for it.

More importantly I’d love for pvp skill balances to roll over to wvw…

How do you have to pve for wvw equipment??

You of course levelled 2 crafting professions as you levelled up right? Cause i’m sure that was worth around 3-4 levels of exp for me – that meant I hit 80 with a full set of exotic jewellry and weapons. I then used invader gear – yes back in the old days – as I’d saved up karma from just levelling. This i replaced with exotics and runes from the ah bought with gold from wvw as i gained it.

I didn’t pve for any of my gear – it really wasn’t hard to get and took no time at all.

Very few glass cannons stand a chance against for example a bunker ele or bunker guard. In fact, I think shatter mesmer is the only glass cannon build that can compete against those two. And that shatter mesmer has really kitten hard time against a decent, semi tanky sword thief or tanky p/d condition thief.
So no, it’s not quite as one sided as you claim.

And that’s just duels. When it comes to massive zerg fight (which wvw is all about currently) where you can’t rely on your utilities due to skill lag, it’s obvious that having good defense is important. You can’t run in a blob very well if you can’t absorb damage.

tagnut.8621:

How do you have to pve for wvw equipment??

You of course levelled 2 crafting professions as you levelled up right? Cause i’m sure that was worth around 3-4 levels of exp for me – that meant I hit 80 with a full set of exotic jewellry and weapons. I then used invader gear – yes back in the old days – as I’d saved up karma from just levelling. This i replaced with exotics and runes from the ah bought with gold from wvw as i gained it.

I didn’t pve for any of my gear – it really wasn’t hard to get and took no time at all.

I was exaggerating a bit with that. On my three level 80 chars I got most of my gear from karma and then did exactly what you did for other exotics. I should have been a bit more specific about why I enjoy the amulet/jewel system (and I recognize I’m in a minority with that!) I like being able to switch to a new build without having to buy new gear/runes. The tradeoff is, as others mentioned, a lack of diversity in stats and equipment, but I prefer switching to new builds and having them optimally runed/geared and that takes a whole new gold investment. I have plenty of gold from wvw and pve, so that’s not necessary the issue, but I play with people who really -only- like to wvw and when they want to try a completely new build they are faced with having to re-gear again. An example is a thief who wants to switch from power/crit to a carrion based build. While it’s not -insane- to have to get the gold again, if you want to do it quickly it does require some time investment as opposed to being able to merely switch amulets/jewels. I’m not complaining – I’m fine with how it is, but could understand the benefits from having the spvp stat system.