Guild Wars 2

Hi,

I recently transferred to Desolation because of the pve events. But I went to do some WvW, and happened to like it. Now I’ve been playing some WvW for a few days.

But all of a sudden I get a screen:
“You have turned your back on your previous world too recently to be welcomed into the mist war, but you may still battle in the edge of the mists”

While I transferred I think a week ago. I now get this popup.
How Come?

You get penalized for 2 weeks for transfering during the season.

Because Anet doesn’t want people to play their game anymore.

So I transfer server, for the pve. They announce megaserver, which basically make the transfer unneeded 3/4 days later. And now I can’t even do the things I want to do?

What is this madness? I didn’t even got a warning I couldn’t play WvW.

The expectations were communicated well in advance:

Guild Wars 2>News>WvW Spring Tournament 2014
by Devon Carver on February 12, 2014
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/wvw-spring-2014-tournament/

Guild Wars 2>News>Get Ready for WvW Spring Tournament 2014
by Devon Carver on March 7, 2014
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/get-ready-for-wvw-spring-tournament-2014/

As a part of these changes, we will also implement new restrictions to WvW access after transferring worlds. These restrictions will go into effect on March 28. After that date, anyone who transfers worlds will be able to play only in the Edge of the Mists WvW map for the duration of their current and subsequent matchup.

The reason for your transfer is not relevant. There is no excuse. The responsibility to be an informed member of the community is strictly on you. You must now accept the consequences of your actions.

The silver lining is that you appear to be well into your timer. You will soon be able to resume your ability to meet new people…and kill them.

So, I’m forced to reading posts on a website when playing a game?
This information should be available ingame.

I paid 100g to transfer server, then megaserver destroys the first reason I changed server (no players for events in my server). And I get punished for not reading some posts on a website by not being able to play the game I want. Everyone on Underworld left, for a reason they are last in WvW and changed to a lower grade of population. So because I’m not in 1 of the elitist guilds that saw this happening before the other players, we (players in the same situation as me) get punished.

Where is the “play the game you want” which was one of the promotion texts.

It’s kinda weird because I moved last Tuesday, could play totally fine for the next couple of days in WvW on the server I moved to, but when I tried today (I haven’t entered WvW since reset last friday), it’s blocked me.

I have the same thing a few days playing the Henge of Denravi and today I can no longer enter on wvw

I now have to wait two weeks to play wvw hahaha

if you go back to Blacktide I will be able to play????

anet wake up. People that xfered 1.5 weeks ago have been in wvw affecting the outcome of seasons already now u just shut them down and say that you cannot get into wvw. Your now backtracking all of the points earned from those xfers that affected the outcome then? so we going to start seasons over? Comon guys people spent real money on gems getting back to a server they thought they would be able to wvw in. And then you tell them that we turned our back on a server as a slap in the face message to your player base.. Nice touch

Maybe ppl should start read the patchnotes. Maybe ppl should lookon login screen for Updates and News. It was announced for so long. Next tournament just transfer earlier. Oh wait you dont have to…

Hayde.6350:

So, I’m forced to reading posts on a website when playing a game?
This information should be available ingame.

News items pushed to the Guild Wars 2>News section of the website ARE ALSO pushed to the game launcher.

There is really no excuse for missing a Guild Wars 2>News publication.

That said, there is a timeliness boundary and old news items pop off the bottom as new items are pushed onto the stack.

GW2 is a living venue.

You are not absolved of responsibility to be an informed member of the community simply as a result of your play preferences. It is all the more in your interests to “catch up” if you are unable to take advantage of the timely notifications.

You can still do Edge of the Mists.

Yeah, I swapped server just AFTER the season kicked off (after i was informed by someone else that wvw was still playable, just with a warning when entering a map). Have been in WvW since though on my new server, it just said I was still locked to my old server with regards to point logging or something.

Just today though (and only since about an hour ago), I am no longer allowed in WvW. Wish they’d get things right instead of always being fubar.

Can still play other games too.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/get-ready-for-wvw-spring-tournament-2014/
These changes are meant to encourage everyone to choose a home world and play on that world for the duration of the tournament.

Anet if you want players to play on a home server is a position the World ranks for each world separately

is becoming less guild who play only on one server

sorry for my english

And people who say Edge of the Mists is another option. Nobody plays it apperently on my timeframe… It’s not wvw, its pve. You capture stuff but nobody fights back… Cause no enemies are online, cause they are actually wvwing….

For the people who are complaining about OP, this isn’t about being blocked from WvW. You are right, the stipulations that we would not be allowed to participate in the tournament were made early on. HOWEVER, we are upset because now these regulations are being put in NOW. When I first transferred over on April 1st, it told me that I could be IN WvW, but I would not be receiving my new server’s prizes – which is perfectly fine. I assumed that’s what they meant, and perhaps I would receive them after the “holding period” if I continued fighting for my current server.

Now, all of a sudden, I’m completely blocked from WvW. If this was broken, I understand why it’s fixed, but now we have questions that come up. Because I transferred over on the 1st, does this mean I’ll be let back in to WvW on Friday, where the date for my “probation period” should be over, or because it’s fixed TODAY, does this mean it’s completely reset and I’ll not only have to wait out the rest of this week, but next week as well?

It’s very confusing and frustrating, because I’ve been playing for this server for a week now, actively participating every day, and now I’m locked out for I have no idea how long. That’s all.

azizul.8469:

the implementation is to prevent spying and sabotage……

Oh really? How can I play one week then and suddenly be locked out?

I could have spied the whole week long if I wanted to..

This is pathetic and I am really annoyed that you don’t get any information ingame at all.

seineith.7048:

For the people who are complaining about OP, this isn’t about being blocked from WvW. You are right, the stipulations that we would not be allowed to participate in the tournament were made early on. HOWEVER, we are upset because now these regulations are being put in NOW. When I first transferred over on April 1st, it told me that I could be IN WvW, but I would not be receiving my new server’s prizes – which is perfectly fine. I assumed that’s what they meant, and perhaps I would receive them after the “holding period” if I continued fighting for my current server.

Now, all of a sudden, I’m completely blocked from WvW. If this was broken, I understand why it’s fixed, but now we have questions that come up. Because I transferred over on the 1st, does this mean I’ll be let back in to WvW on Friday, where the date for my “probation period” should be over, or because it’s fixed TODAY, does this mean it’s completely reset and I’ll not only have to wait out the rest of this week, but next week as well?

It’s very confusing and frustrating, because I’ve been playing for this server for a week now, actively participating every day, and now I’m locked out for I have no idea how long. That’s all.

EDIT :

answering the bold part

you transferred on 1st april which is last week, tuesday.

the rule says : anyone transferring after 28th march will be locked out of WvW for the remaining of their current match up AND also in the whole of next match up.

in your case you’ll be locked out until the end of this match up (this week), because you are already locked out in the remaining of last week’s, and the whole of this week’s.

you can join your current server’s WvW next match up.

not hard to understand , right ?

.. and yes i still believe the implementation is to prevent spying and sabotage

azizul.8469:

seineith.7048:

For the people who are complaining about OP, this isn’t about being blocked from WvW. You are right, the stipulations that we would not be allowed to participate in the tournament were made early on. HOWEVER, we are upset because now these regulations are being put in NOW. When I first transferred over on April 1st, it told me that I could be IN WvW, but I would not be receiving my new server’s prizes – which is perfectly fine. I assumed that’s what they meant, and perhaps I would receive them after the “holding period” if I continued fighting for my current server.

Now, all of a sudden, I’m completely blocked from WvW. If this was broken, I understand why it’s fixed, but now we have questions that come up. Because I transferred over on the 1st, does this mean I’ll be let back in to WvW on Friday, where the date for my “probation period” should be over, or because it’s fixed TODAY, does this mean it’s completely reset and I’ll not only have to wait out the rest of this week, but next week as well?

It’s very confusing and frustrating, because I’ve been playing for this server for a week now, actively participating every day, and now I’m locked out for I have no idea how long. That’s all.

EDIT :

answering the bold part

you transferred on 1st april which is last week, tuesday.

the rule says : anyone transferring after 28th march will be locked out of WvW for the remaining of their current match up AND also in the whole of next match up.

in your case you’ll be locked out until the end of this match up (this week), because you are already locked out the in the remaining of last week’s, and the whole of this week’s.

you can join your current server’s WvW next match up.

not hard to understand , right ?

.. and yes i still believe the implementation is to prevent spying and sabotage

I’m not trying to be hateful here, so there’s no reason to be stuffy about it. All I’m saying is, the correction was made very suddenly with no word about it, or clarification made to those who have already transferred over. I would assume that ANet would allow me into WvW this Friday, but who knows? All I’m saying is the sudden change is confusing.

seineith.7048:

It’s very confusing and frustrating, because I’ve been playing for this server for a week now, actively participating every day, and now I’m locked out for I have no idea how long. That’s all.

Your confusion is understandable. One must actually READ the publication provided on the topic.

You say you transferred on April 1st (a TUESDAY) … wow, that perfectly hinges up to the example provided!

Ref: Guild Wars 2>News>Get Ready for WvW Spring Tournament 2014

If you transfer worlds on a Tuesday, you won’t be able to enter the Borderlands or Eternal Battleground maps until the Friday of the following week.

Regarding your ability to progress and contribute… AGAIN, reading the publication would assist an intrepid adventurer

You will still be able to play in Edge of the Mists and progress the tournament meta achievement, but you will not be able to contribute to the score of your WvW matchup.

Further…

At the end of the tournament, everyone who has completed the meta achievement will be given a chest containing WvW Tournament tickets. You’ll also receive a unique title, and players in the top three worlds of each league will receive a limited-use dolyak trophy finisher.

…and finally…

Your world association will be based on your participation throughout the tournament. If you play on multiple worlds during the tournament, the world you represented the most will be the one with which you are associated. We are adding a new Battle Historian NPC to all the WvW maps who will tell you which world you are associated with.

With respect, I venture that a responsible community member might be embarrassed to discover such clarity had to be reduced to spoon feeding.

kitten I READ THE INSTRUCTIONS THE DAY THEY WERE POSTED ON THE BLOG.

Had I been physically blocked out from day one that I transferred, I would not have the issues that I have now. HOWEVER that is not the case – now, /all of a sudden/ I am locked out. /Again/ my assumptions are that I will be allowed in on Friday, /however/ because of the sudden change all I am doing is questioning whether or not the probation resets or whether my original transfer date holds over. Stop being so rude. It’s a simple question.

Being locked out of WvW after transferring during the season is understandable. What is confusing is that a number of people who transferred during the season were able to enter WvW immediately, and are only now being restricted.

Khalic.3561:

Being locked out of WvW after transferring during the season is understandable. What is confusing is that a number of people who transferred during the season were able to enter WvW immediately, and are only now being restricted.

Thank you. Kitten on a stick, people are so caustic here.

I am having the same problem with this. I haven’t been online for a long time about 2 months I went to a server to meet new people and then come back and went to join my old Guild and now I can’t do the only thing I want to do. THANKS there should have been a Message INGAME about this. NOT everyone in the world has the time to read every little thing on the forums and I didn’t have a problem playing WvW Saturday-Monday or early this morning but no once RESET happen I CAN’T JOIN anymore.. THANKS really. Looks like it going to be back to other game for 2 weeks.. Makes me wonder why I even paid for the gems to get back on the world with my friends..

well, i guess ANET is correcting a bug, which is locking out people who are supposed to be locked out according to the tournament rule but not locked out after they transferred.

you know you’re supposed to be locked out, and ANET’s is locking you out now because they didn’t due to some bugs. can’t complain much.

azizul.8469:
the implementation is to prevent spying and sabotage……

I went Blacktide EU to Henge of Denravi NA

I understand block transfer between servers in the same league !!!!!

seineith.7048:

Had I been physically blocked out from day one that I transferred, I would not have the issues that I have now. HOWEVER that is not the case – now, /all of a sudden/ I am locked out.

Apparently, your day one access was a bug — a bug that is not no longer exploitable.

Your frustration is understandable. I presume it can generate substantial angst when one has been enjoying the fruits of a bug and that bug is mitigated.

Respectfully, other than the fear and doubt-based crisis-of-fantasy that you are manufacturing, there is nothing to resolve. If you do not have access (on or about Friday) as expected, grieve it with customer support.

Unless and until there is a real issue, in truth, you are asking for resolution to a hypothetical.

zortek.9607:

seineith.7048:

Had I been physically blocked out from day one that I transferred, I would not have the issues that I have now. HOWEVER that is not the case – now, /all of a sudden/ I am locked out.

Apparently, your day one access was a bug — a bug that is not no longer exploitable.

Your frustration is understandable. I presume it can generate substantial angst when one has been enjoying the fruits of a bug and that bug is mitigated.

Respectfully, other than the fear and doubt-based crisis-of-fantasy that you are manufacturing, there is nothing to resolve. If you do not have access (on or about Friday) as expected, grieve it with customer support.

Unless and until there is a real issue, in truth, you are asking for resolution to a hypothetical.

I, too, love to use large words to assert my authority.

seineith.7048:

I, too, love to use large words to assert my authority.

Your comment really doesn’t contribute to the thread topic. That said, I suppose some might consider 9th grade level English to be challenging.

• Flesch Reading Ease: 53.2
• Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level 9.7

Be well. This thread is no longer productive.

Script.5092:

azizul.8469:
the implementation is to prevent spying and sabotage……

I went Blacktide EU to Henge of Denravi NA

I understand block transfer between servers in the same league !!!!!

you know people can have second acct.

all you need to transfer for free is delete all your characters and transfer to the opposing server and enter WvW with the upleveled, and do the spying and sabotage activities.

using your example, i can be an FA player with a second acct that can freely move to anywhere, including from Blacktide to HoD, and sabotage HoD for example.

ANET is mitigating these possibilities as much as they can.

Why wouldn’t the “spies” do their transfers before the tournament starts when the transfers were cheaper/free (for majority of the servers)? So why didn’t Anet implement a 2-week restriction as well on new transfers right before the start of the tournament?

This “WvW restriction to prevent spying” assumption is obviously lacking logic.

ANET how bout you put a “warning” before completing the transferring wasted 20 bucks for nothing… if i wanted to play EotM i would have stay on my server this is ridiculous

Jerron.3210:

Why wouldn’t the “spies” do their transfers before the tournament starts when the transfers were cheaper/free (for majority of the servers)? So why didn’t Anet implement a 2-week restriction as well on new transfers right before the start of the tournament?

This “WvW restriction to prevent spying” assumption is obviously lacking logic.

spy acct do not “play” on his main acct server, he “play” on an opposing server.

by deploying 2-weeks lock out, a spy wouldn’t transfer ahead of a match up, because he wouldn’t know which server his main acct will be facing next for him to transfer his spy acct to. even if he can predict which server he will be facing, and then transfer to that server, the spy acct will be locked out of WvW for 2-weeks, and not able to do his dirty work. by the time the spy acct is able to play WvW on the opposing server, his main acct may or may not be facing the same server again.

Eveeryone just open disputs and chargebacks with arena net for your gem purchases, and they’ll learn from their mistakes.

Ninski.5680:

Eveeryone just open disputs and chargebacks with arena net for your gem purchases, and they’ll learn from their mistakes.

Or they just ban you?

The lockout was announced a long time ago. You have to bypass the news page to log in. If you know how to get on the forums then you know how to read the online news page.

And why transfer for PVE when you have 2 guest passes? Even Anet knows transferring for PVE is useless which is why they are implementing the megaserver.

If WvW is the only thing you enjoy and the reason you play GW2 I suppose you would read news and stuff about it.

And did nobody tell you when you were thinking about transfer that you get locked out from WvW for the remaining matchup (seems to be bugged, you don’t get locked) and for the next matchup (seems to work as intented).

The only mistake ANet did was over estimating people. Should have they added a some form of warning text on the transfer window? Seems so.

Just chill for a moment, you will be able to play soon again, it’s not like you are locked out of WvW for the rest of your life.

And yes, as pointed many times on this thread already this is for preventing spying and sabotage by moving an “empty account” around on every matchup. This two week lock out prevents it very nicely and I like it.

They announced it via every medium except the actual game – so those who don’t read the forums get a nice surprise when they pay for their transfers. Gotta love that communication.

they are published at the game launcher after you log in. can’t miss that really.

Paavotar.3971:

And yes, as pointed many times on this thread already this is for preventing spying and sabotage by moving an “empty account” around on every matchup. This two week lock out prevents it very nicely and I like it.

Then Anet should just impose the restriction on empty accounts that transferred servers during the tournament, and NOT for players who are serious about transferring and actually PAY gold/gem for the transfer.

Backuplight.3968:

They announced it via every medium except the actual game – so those who don’t read the forums get a nice surprise when they pay for their transfers. Gotta love that communication.

More like Anet gets a nice surprise when they see multiple disputs on paypal =)

Well time to quit again thanks to Anet making the game so bad… I don’t even see why doing that would even matter. PayPal here I come!

Ninski.5680:

Eveeryone just open disputs and chargebacks with arena net for your gem purchases, and they’ll learn from their mistakes.

Nice advice, if you want your account permabanned, that is.

You don’t do chargebacks for MMO payments unless you never want to play on your account again.

Period.

Im gonna bump this thread because I want an answer from Anet. I also transferred about 5 days ago, have been able to play wvw fine, and wake up today seeing that I cant join and have a penalty. This is silly. I transferred to join a guild and now I cant attend this weeks gvg/raids because of this. Why the sudden penalty? I read on the blogpost the penalty isnt 2 weeks but for the remainder of the matchup. Id flip if it was for 2 weeks, there is no reason whatsoever, thats ridiculous, its like they wouldnt want people to play their game then.

People have been re-posting what ANet said about transfers during the Seasons, this isn’t the argument or what people are posting about. People are complaining that they transferred last week and could get in WvW and now today what ANet said they were going to do has actually been done.

I’m in the same boat, I moved from Gandara to Piken but only now have I been locked out of WvW so I’ve been contributing towards Piken since mid-last week. Would be nice to have a Dev give some clarification on the subject but until then, oh joy EoTM! (Yes, that was sarcasm).

And that is the major issue. What Fish said.

You can’t punish the players for a mistake that you did. That is wrong and immoral. I can understand if you put it towards FUTURE transfers, but you can’t backpedal like that and lock out the transfers completely now, especially since they have been participating in WvW since they transferred. That’s not the player’s mistake, that is your’s anet.

And the Dev’s are just going to repost what they posted on transfers saying everyone knew about. Half true.

Everyone knew it would happen, and everyone EXPECTED it to happen when seasons started. Not 2 weeks in. Which is wrong on Anet’s part and again, an anet mistake.

Anet style even the penality bugged:)

Dont blame anet on this one yes their application is a bit buggy but the blame lies with the servers/players that sent spies to opposing wvw servers that did far more than spy. Things like hiding entire golem forces so they despawn; spamming oddball siege to siege cap maps; dumping supply in keeps/towers via upgrades when its needed for defense; and many other nasty things. In other words wvw trolls, blame those guys that abused the system not anet. Anet is simply trying to keep the peace and help make wvw a more bearable place.

Fish.2769:

People have been re-posting what ANet said about transfers during the Seasons, this isn’t the argument or what people are posting about. People are complaining that they transferred last week and could get in WvW and now today what ANet said they were going to do has actually been done.

I’m in the same boat, I moved from Gandara to Piken but only now have I been locked out of WvW so I’ve been contributing towards Piken since mid-last week. Would be nice to have a Dev give some clarification on the subject but until then, oh joy EoTM! (Yes, that was sarcasm).

ANET did make announcement about WvW lockout weeks before the season begins.

you being able to enter WvW last week after transferring was a glitch.

what ANET doing now is fixing that glitch.

so, what they are doing is right, which is fixing a glitch.

…. and to those troll guilds out there who like sending spies to opposing servers, good luck, and enjoy waiting 2 weeks lockout on that spy acct….

“You have turned your back on your previous world too recently to be welcomed into the mist war, but you may still battle in the edge of the mists”

Thats a pretty awesome message. Basically calling you a traitor and saying we don’t trust you yet.