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Posted by: Chaster Sharpshooter.3640

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Q:

As we all know, Catapult has the ability to switch between gravel and boulder.

But as far as my current observation, I have not yet found a situation where Gravel would have more advantage over boulder, can someone enlighten me?

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Posted by: testpig.5018

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When you wish to appear like a player that doesn’t know how to use a data =)

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Posted by: Raap.9065

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The Gravel option is from my experience, entirely useless.

The concept of a wide-spread shot that damages player characters is ok, but it suffers from a lot of problems.

1- The shots bug out, a lot. The gravel projectiles stack on eachother as if it was a single projectile. With no AOE to speak of, the target area becomes so small that hitting anything with it is impossible.
2- When the shot works, it still only fires 4 very small projectiles with no real AOE. The chances of hitting anything at all are very small.
3- Loading up the shot takes too long. Since this fire mode is intended to hit mobile targets, the slow turning, slow loading catapult struggles to aim for something. On top of that, the projectiles are very easy to dodge as their travel time is slow.
4- Even assuming you hit a player with a gravel projectile, the damage is a lot smaller than the boulder, and has no knockback/interupt component. It also cannot hit siege weapons reliably.
5- Does entirely nothing as a counter to rams behind doors.

It needs changes and fixes to make it useful. I could come up with a long list of options, but comming up with idea’s is simple enough, anyone could do it.

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Posted by: Scribbles.7493

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Maybe replace it with a firebomb shot that burns enemies and creates a firefield where it lands?

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Posted by: Raap.9065

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Maybe replace it with a firebomb shot that burns enemies and creates a firefield where it lands?

Bit too much like the mortar secondary fire option. Which by the way, also has problems making it less usefull than the primary fire mode. But that one is easy to solve; Just make the explosion and fire field a bit bigger.

Not to mention the treb primary fire is essentially a fire bomb aswell. Variation please!

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Posted by: Cottage Pie.6215

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The first time I used gravel was the last time I used gravel.

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Posted by: Chaster Sharpshooter.3640

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@Cottage Pie.6215 & testpig.5018

I loled so hard xD

@Raap.9065

Yeah, that’s why I’d like to see if someone has discovered a situation where this could be useful.

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Posted by: LieutenantGoogle.7326

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It’s alternate projectile should be like the original in its flying form, but the impact should immobilize. Kind of like throwing a net.

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Posted by: Xandax.1753

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The gravel is useless.
It does have more ‘AOE’ effect by having multiple projectiles which can hit, but the spread is too random, too wide and just plain useless.

Go with boulder any time you use a catapult.

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Posted by: Arawn.3674

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Thinking of the “release the prisoners!” scene during the siege of Minas Tirith in Return of the King: could a 1 or 2 sec AoE panic be a viable alternative?

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Posted by: Ianervan.3415

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Gravel doesn’t work (as intended). It does nothing.

Shoot x5 with Gravel.
Shoot x1 with Boulder.

That one boulder will do more damage to enemy mob than five gravels.

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