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I would say that midnight on a day where most people don’t have work or school the next day is a LOT more convenient than right in the middle of work/school.

Please reconsider this until you find a way to separate the reset times.

No no no. This is really bad move for those on the west coast in the US. I think there should be 2 options:

1. Leave it as it is
2. Create separate reset times for NA vs EU. This is the preferred solution.

I’m all for improving things for EU, but this is just moving the problem from one region to another.

Another example of ANet trying to place a bandaid on something rather than actually fix the problem. The reset is now at 3pm PST or 6pm EST, which means EST is just getting home from work and eating dinner and PST is still working for a few more hours. Add in Q times and the PST players will be lucky to get on at all, a lot probably wont even bother trying on reset night.

Perhaps a better idea might be to place the reset on Saturday rather then Friday. I think that time, and perhaps even earlier, would work on a Saturday.

Another idea would be just to move it back one hour, which makes it exactly the same as it was before daylight savings.

Huygens.4075:

I’m all for improving things for EU, but this is just moving the problem from one region to another.

100% agree. This is going to have a significant impact on NA resets. This needs to be thought through a little more

Nabrok.9023:

Perhaps a better idea might be to place the reset on Saturday rather then Friday. I think that time, and perhaps even earlier, would work on a Saturday.

I like this idea. I still prefer separate reset times for NA vs EU (ANET has always said they are very different servers so this should be possible), but if for some reason we cannot, this would be a good middle ground.

All I hear is you US complaining. Right now the playing time for central europe is 2 AM! TWO AM! Do you realize how ridiculous that is ? Even if some players WANTED to join in (i.e. the pug) they will maybe play half an hour then be off. You US players can still pitch out more people than you would have if the reset was at 2 AM for you. In fact now you can have an even better coverage and be less susceptible to night capping because all your people went to sleep and your keeps weren’t upgraded enough and suddenly you lost it because that one server has a bigger night presence.

This is a terrible idea. You were better off keeping it as is until you can get a better reset solution in place.

Thanks for listening to players and looking for a solution, your choice of a solution was just horrendous though.

Cicero.3492:

Another example of ANet trying to place a bandaid on something rather than actually fix the problem. The reset is now at 3pm PST or 6pm EST, which means EST is just getting home from work and eating dinner and PST is still working for a few more hours. Add in Q times and the PST players will be lucky to get on at all, a lot probably wont even bother trying on reset night.

I would gladly trade your 3-6 PM reset start for what we have now in European time-zones. You can recognize WvW regulars on EU servers by completely messed up sleeping patterns – we have suffered greatly on resets since the daylight savings moved it one hour back then before as less and less people showed up every week.
We have been asking for something like this for months and are thrilled Anet finally decided to balance things a bit.

Have any of you already heard about nightcapping ? Lots of people (not all, I know) see it as a problem. And the match start in EU was just in the middle of nightcapping time. So whoever is up at night get the points. Not a good thing.

On the other hand, US server spread already on a lot of timezone, and are shifted from mid day to still mid day. Some will lose from it, that’s for sure, but not nearly as much as EU will gain.

I think it was a good call from ANet.

Ilesyt.7084:

All I hear is you US complaining. Right now the playing time for central europe is 2 AM! TWO AM! Do you realize how ridiculous that is ? Even if some players WANTED to join in (i.e. the pug) they will maybe play half an hour then be off. You US players can still pitch out more people than you would have if the reset was at 2 AM for you. In fact now you can have an even better coverage and be less susceptible to night capping because all your people went to sleep and your keeps weren’t upgraded enough and suddenly you lost it because that one server has a bigger night presence.

No, a better solution is to separate the reset times for NA and EU. That way NA can remain as is and EU can move several hours earlier. Isn’t that better for everyone?

Problem with a Saturday reset is the matches are usually decided 48 – 72 before the reset anyways making the final days pointless in the final score. Which would make friday night (high play time) pointless.

I am all for making it easier for EU players to be on at reset, but like I said before all this is, is a bandaid since ANET seems to be unable to (for whatever reasons) separate EU and NA.

As it is for me if i don’t get in right at reset I might as well go get wasted since the Q times are usually 2 – 3hrs.

Really good news for EU.

2 am is just ridiculous as reset time.

3 pm and 5 pm are not so bad if you are fair.

At least you will be able to play on reset day, actually you got plenty of hours to do so, even if like some are saying you will sit a few hours in queue, what will that make it 7? 8 pm? Sounds really good to me for a reset day.

Whilst en EU the situation was really dumb, think about it NA guys: 2 am…

On a positive note for us NA players, we can play longer before we have to go to bed!

It’s not ideal but it I can understand it – having reset at 2am would be horrible. And due to the laws of physics, we live on a round world. Darn laws of physics messing up our WvW… Looks like I’m leaving work early on Fridays from now on too

It’ll be interesting if this has any affect on the first couple hours of play here in NA.

Cicero.3492:

Problem with a Saturday reset is the matches are usually decided 48 – 72 before the reset anyways making the final days pointless in the final score. Which would make friday night (high play time) pointless.

I am all for making it easier for EU players to be on at reset, but like I said before all this is, is a bandaid since ANET seems to be unable to (for whatever reasons) separate EU and NA.

As it is for me if i don’t get in right at reset I might as well go get wasted since the Q times are usually 2 – 3hrs.

Tarnished Coast begs to differ, but I do get your point.

The ideal solution is separate reset times, but I think a Saturday reset is a better compromise until that is possible.

Separate times are the best way really.

You say this new time will hugely affect NA players; but then do you not think EU players having to stay up at 2am is a much greater affect at the current time?

This new time means a lot more EU players can be on at reset as they wont be asleep, whilst NA will have to wait a couple hours to get back from work/school on the west coast.

If Anet are not going to give separate times, then this new time is the next best thing, not the current time, which is way too late for EU.

style.6173:

Ilesyt.7084:

All I hear is you US complaining. Right now the playing time for central europe is 2 AM! TWO AM! Do you realize how ridiculous that is ? Even if some players WANTED to join in (i.e. the pug) they will maybe play half an hour then be off. You US players can still pitch out more people than you would have if the reset was at 2 AM for you. In fact now you can have an even better coverage and be less susceptible to night capping because all your people went to sleep and your keeps weren’t upgraded enough and suddenly you lost it because that one server has a bigger night presence.

No, a better solution is to separate the reset times for NA and EU. That way NA can remain as is and EU can move several hours earlier. Isn’t that better for everyone?

But they said they can’t split it (yet?).
It would be just horrible for EU to leave it like this.

This change impacts NA, SEA and possibly Oceanic timezones, while improving the EU experience by a few hours. One of the above posters said it best, this is just moving the problem from one timezone to another.

Please rethink this. Separate resets for NA and EU servers would be best, but if it’s not feasible, then the compromise of moving reset to Saturday is at least more reasonable for people who have work/school on Fridays.

In higher tier servers, this will disallow guilds from playing together. Please rethink this ANet!

The end of a match is WAY more important than the start of a match.

I’m all for a compromise but this went in the opposite direction of what it should’ve been… don’t move it earlier, push it to later.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

The end of a match is WAY more important than the start of a match.

I’m all for a compromise but this went in the opposite direction of what it should’ve been… don’t move it earlier, push it to later.

I don’t agree, in most cases matches are pretty much decided much earlier (with the exception of few amazing down-to-the-wire fights).

We have EU and US servers… and they ALL have to reset at the same time?

Wait a bit, so… Is this WvW only or will it change daily/monthly server resets too?

The tears aren’t even salty because of all the corn syrup in your foods.

Thankyou Anet from an EU player.

Dan.8709:

Wait a bit, so… Is this WvW only or will it change daily/monthly server resets too?

If you can remember back to the very first time we had a week-long match the wvw reset was not in sync with the daily reset. They changed it so they would be at the same time.

Also, the WvW reset does not appear to be entirely automated as it usually takes 15-20 minutes for it to actually go through and the time varies from week to week.

Parthis.2091:

The tears aren’t even salty because of all the corn syrup in your foods.

Thankyou Anet from an EU player.

Despite popular opinion there are possible solutions that fix EU without everyone else getting shafted.

Huygens.4075:

Parthis.2091:

The tears aren’t even salty because of all the corn syrup in your foods.

Thankyou Anet from an EU player.

Despite popular opinion there are possible solutions that fix EU without everyone else getting shafted.

It was funny though. I almost spit out my corn syrup laden salad (yes its even in there – salad dressing).

Nabrok.9023:

Dan.8709:

Wait a bit, so… Is this WvW only or will it change daily/monthly server resets too?

If you can remember back to the very first time we had a week-long match the wvw reset was not in sync with the daily reset. They changed it so they would be at the same time.

Also, the WvW reset does not appear to be entirely automated as it usually takes 15-20 minutes for it to actually go through and the time varies from week to week.

Oh, true, thanks a bunch, it was the only worry I had.

Honest question, how much impact will the reset being at midnight instead of 2am for EU players really have? (Honestly don’t know what its like in EU so no troll intended here)

“The WvW matchup is reset at the same time because of the way the system works. We can’t separate the reset time for EU and NA because of this.”

Forgive me Devon, can I call you Devon? I’m going to anyway.

Devon, I understand that the system currently works this way, with the EU and NA servers having to reset at the same time.

However, aren’t you the ones in charge of how that system works? Would it not, in fact, be entirely possible to decouple the EU and NA servers and have them reset at different times?

We’d prefer not to hear “We can’t”, because we all know that in fact you absolutely could, it’s just a matter of how much effort will it take to do.

Nobody in the EU really wants reset in the middle of the night, Midnight CET is certainly better than 2 in the morning (although in practice it’s been like 2:20 or 2:30, those servers seem to take longer and longer to reset each week eh!) we’d much prefer it at a nice sociable time like 8pm.

Do us a favour mate, write this up on your Backlog:

Change Request:

Separate out EU and NA WvW servers such that the Matchups can reset at different times in each region.

It doesn’t have to go high up on the list, but you should totally put it on there!

Then you can stop saying “We can’t”, and start saying “It’s something we’re considering for the future”, or words to that effect.

Cheers Devon, love you!

Alright. So EU have been the “victim” in this situation for 8 months. And it was alright. But now that the US get somewhat effected by it, it is the worst thing that could happen more or less? Seriously?
Now my math might be off but I am quite sure that the new time will not be in the middle of the night in the US (which have been the case for EU since release)

Finally no more waiting untill 1-2AM for the reset, very happy to finally seeing this problem getting attention. Thanks Devon.

Some (american) people here should stop being so selfish. Yes 3 pm isnt ideal, so isnt 0:15 am. 6 pm sounds great for some parts of america. but 2.15!! am was HORRIBLE. Considering how important the first hours after the reset is, Arenanet had to change something. I dont know how large the us and eu playerbase is, there are 27 eu Servers and only 24 us Servers, while the us servers are fuller. There are almost only europeans on eu servers (and russians if you dont count them to europe), while the rest of the world plays on us servers (and this rest of the world has anyways other reset times then the us players) So i think the playerbase is pretty equal, which means they had to find a compromise for bothe sides-. And giving one side a reset at 2.15!! am and the other at 5-8pm wasnt a fair compromise. As long as they cant seperate the reset times this is the way to go.
Thank you Arenanet

lordkrall.7241:

Alright. So EU have been the “victim” in this situation for 8 months. And it was alright. But now that the US get somewhat effected by it, it is the worst thing that could happen more or less? Seriously?
Now my math might be off but I am quite sure that the new time will not be in the middle of the night in the US (which have been the case for EU since release)

No, just the middle or very end of the work day.

I’m not denying late night resets are a problem. I’m saying a better solution should have been found, even if it’s a temporary Saturday reset.

The priority should be separate reset times. Friday evening is a very good time for a reset as it gives the entire weekend to play a new match, the goal should be to provide that for as many people as possible.

While that isn’t possible Saturday is a better option. I’d even suggest 9 AM Pacific/Noon Eastern/5 PM UTC/7 PM CET.

Doesnt make a differnece to me atall

it used to be 5 AM before, its 3 AM now, guess i will never do reset anyway.

Cicero.3492:

Honest question, how much impact will the reset being at midnight instead of 2am for EU players really have? (Honestly don’t know what its like in EU so no troll intended here)

Last reset at 1:15 am (before the summer time Change) 436 people on teamspeak
Last week reset at 2:15 am – 278 people on teamspeak

So even this one hour made a huge difference

I bet most of you EU ppl have nothing to do saturday morning, so yeah, I imagine it was boring to wait till 2am for reset but you were able to play during reset. Now in America we WON’T be able to play, period. The reset will hit us during working time or school time or university time or whatever, but we WON’T be able to play.

Kraken.7514:

3 pm and 5 pm are not so bad if you are fair.

A very, very large portion of NA is still at work during this time. (Exceptions being shift work, 3rd shift, etc but ‘norm’ is presumed 9-5.)

Ogeas.8235:

I bet most of you EU ppl have nothing to do saturday morning, so yeah, I imagine it was boring to wait till 2am for reset but you were able to play during reset. Now in America we WON’T be able to play, period. The reset will hit us during working time or school time or university time or whatever, but we WON’T be able to play.

Not everyone works standard weeks. There are quite common for people to work on saturdays, at least here in Sweden.

well there goes my friday night dinner. Will probably end up playing for an hour, leaving for dinner and then not being able to get back in for 2-3 hours.

Boom.9304:

Kraken.7514:

3 pm and 5 pm are not so bad if you are fair.

A very, very large portion of NA is still at work during this time. (Exceptions being shift work, 3rd shift, etc but ‘norm’ is presumed 9-5.)

and a even bigger portion of europe was sleeping or considering its friday night/saturday morning celebrating during this time. And a big portion of europe will be still sleeping or celebrating at 24:00. But at least it wont be roughly 90% of the playerbase. and you still have the advantage your first 9-12 hours after the reset (which decide the matchup in many cases) are during daytime, while our first 9-12 hours are decided by the better night/morningcapping server.

Ogeas.8235:

I bet most of you EU ppl have nothing to do saturday morning, so yeah, I imagine it was boring to wait till 2am for reset but you were able to play during reset. Now in America we WON’T be able to play, period. The reset will hit us during working time or school time or university time or whatever, but we WON’T be able to play.

wait till 2 am and then play till 5-6 am, that means you are NOT sleeping during the night every saturday night(morning ?) every week, every month. You know how we are feeling when we’re playing on saturday ? And not everyone can or will stay up the whole night just because they don’t have work or school the next day.
And like it was said inthe EU the majority of the players base is EU (and while for most is started at 2 am for some it would even start at 3-4 am…)
Meanwhile people from all over the world play at NA servers if some NA players can’t play, you can bet that there will be others who actually CAN play reset while they couldn’t before.

The 2 hours for EU is HUGE, while for NA it isn’t…

gabal.4520:

I don’t agree, in most cases matches are pretty much decided much earlier (with the exception of few amazing down-to-the-wire fights).

So let’s ruin these amazing matches for the sake of… absolutely no gain?

I don’t understand why ppl think the first few hours after reset matter more than at any other time in the match.

lol, this is yet another example of anet failing to respond to what players want. The EU want a reset time that is reasonable so that they may participate which is completely understandable. So why would you move the NA start time earlier when its only the EU that needs a time fix? I get off work at 5 est, I get to sit in traffic till say 5:30-5:45 and then I have to cook dinner. How on earth will anyone with some sort of a normal life ever be able to make a 6pm est reset time, not to mention the guys on the west coast get screwed even more. The queues alone on reset night are already bad, so I guess any chance of getting in on reset night is all but gone at this point thanks anet!

So to sum up what players want:

Seperating EU from NA = Win!

Anets logic:

(throws dart at dart board) 22:00 UTC!

Hoots.9564:

lol, this is yet another example of anet failing to respond to what players want. The EU want a reset time that is reasonable so that they may participate which is completely understandable. So why would you move the NA start time earlier when its only the EU that needs a time fix? I get off work at 5 est, I get to sit in traffic till say 5:30-5:45 and then I have to cook dinner. How on earth will anyone with some sort of a normal life ever be able to make a 6pm est reset time, not to mention the guys on the west coast get screwed even more. The queues alone on reset night are already bad, so I guess any chance of getting in on reset night is all but gone at this point thanks anet!

It seems quite clear that they CAN’T have different reset times on different servers as of this time.

lordkrall.7241:

Hoots.9564:

lol, this is yet another example of anet failing to respond to what players want. The EU want a reset time that is reasonable so that they may participate which is completely understandable. So why would you move the NA start time earlier when its only the EU that needs a time fix? I get off work at 5 est, I get to sit in traffic till say 5:30-5:45 and then I have to cook dinner. How on earth will anyone with some sort of a normal life ever be able to make a 6pm est reset time, not to mention the guys on the west coast get screwed even more. The queues alone on reset night are already bad, so I guess any chance of getting in on reset night is all but gone at this point thanks anet!

It seems quite clear that they CAN’T have different reset times on different servers as of this time.

Which is quite sad to be honest.

I don’t believe that Anet can make an entire freakin’ game but doesn’t have the ability to put different servers on different timers. They CAN do it but they just don’t want to make the effort to do it.