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I play on Drakkar-Lake(DE) and he was on Kodash(DE)
We just wanted to claim a camp, but that dude showed up. He permadodged around us for straight 8 mins of those I recorded around 3 mins to the end. We threw everything against him, and a normal daredevil should’ve been CCed and dead no matter how good he is. Also he had something that made him obstructed when he was in plain sight.
Reported him for Botting.
Edit. Removed name

And I was already following the reddit thread so I am wiser on that behalf.

I wont go into great detail as to how he is doing this but he is not cheating.

Actually his entire build is built around endurance regen, endurance heal and evades.
It’s not overly hard to make this build. it completely designed around trolling. This is why you see him using his heal and signet to regenerate his endurance because he is utilizing so many evades his vigor can’t keep up.

Sorry OP but your “actual” footage is just another example of PvE players coming into WvW and bashing other players for loosing to what they do not understand how to effectively play against.

I will put this into the “OMG CONDI IS OP” and “OMG THIEF IS OP/CHEATER” category.

P.S.

I came back to edit this. I will give you a hint to figure out how hes doing this…

Staff/Staff with sigils of endurance
Runes are adventurer for 100% daredevil stamina heal with channeled vigor.
Specs are daredevil, trickery, acrobatics. (you can see his buffs in the video)

Sorry to say he’s not cheating as far as I could tell, this is just HoT powercreep being dumb and why the Daredevil is probably the least-inspired, worst-designed elite spec made.

This is why so many people quit the PvP formats with HoT. Every elite spec is like this, and the game just isn’t fun to play now.

Yeah….he’s just very aware of his weapon skills and build. Not cheating at all.

Just another broken HoT build.

Hey there, figured I’d be in a position to contribute to this discussion.

Siphon.8405:

[…] Staff/Staff with sigils of endurance
Runes are adventurer for 100% daredevil stamina heal with channeled vigor. […]

Truth be told, I wasn’t using Adventurer at the time. I was on a test run with Runes of the Earth to find out whether or not I truly need the extra endurance; same goes for the daredevil heal which is usually too risky to take in fights involving multiple competent enemies since random/targeted rupts can pretty much kill you instantly.

Here’s a video (along with UTTERLY terrible music added in a feeble attempt at replacing the original file’s audio with something even more cringeworthy, you HAVE been warned) of how this usually goes (and ends): https://youtu.be/vlIXP81Hx9Y?t=1m15s

Also, the OP might want to remove any references to account names from his post, else this thread will soon be deleted.

Watching this video reminds me an awful lot of that youtube video where the kitten is attacking a ceramic statue.. lol.

Byakku.9187:

Hey there, figured I’d be in a position to contribute to this discussion.

Siphon.8405:

[…] Staff/Staff with sigils of endurance
Runes are adventurer for 100% daredevil stamina heal with channeled vigor. […]

Truth be told, I wasn’t using Adventurer at the time. I was on a test run with Runes of the Earth to find out whether or not I truly need the extra endurance; same goes for the daredevil heal which is usually too risky to take in fights involving multiple competent enemies since random/targeted rupts can pretty much kill you instantly.

Here’s a video (along with UTTERLY terrible music added in a feeble attempt at replacing the original file’s audio with something even more cringeworthy, you HAVE been warned) of how this usually goes (and ends): https://youtu.be/vlIXP81Hx9Y?t=1m15s

Also, the OP might want to remove any references to account names from his post, else this thread will soon be deleted.

I knew i could bait you into telling me your build so I can try it out! Thanks

I LOVE this build. So much lulz fun! I am in the process of crafting it right now, any tips on runes? You are right though that music makes me want to go choke a clown!

This build should be labeled the “Gingerbread man”!

Not hacking. Ele Staff projectiles are just woefully inadequate against a moving target.

1:40 is the real issue.

Also that gives me an idea….

Siphon.8405:

Byakku.9187:

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I knew i could bait you into telling me your build so I can try it out! Thanks

I LOVE this build. So much lulz fun! I am in the process of crafting it right now, any tips on runes? You are right though that music makes me want to go choke a clown!

This build should be labeled the “Gingerbread man”!

You are welcome. For the best results I highly recommend Nomad gear (for that oh-so-fabled 3k9 armor stat) along with Roasted Parsnip and Furious Sharpening Stone as comsumables (the former makes it so that the two seconds of de-facto invulnerability provided by a certain trait cannot be outlasted by common 3-second-stuns, which, if memory serves me right, was the cause of my character’s death in the video linked above).

I’m confident you will be able to puzzle out the rest. It really is quite simple, as you have put it.

Edit: Here’s a(n) (unlisted) playlist of a few more of my videos for anyone interested in learning more (the previous warning regarding the music applies to all of them, so beware and lower the volume of your speakers before watching; also, the URL contains a “bad” word the forum algorithm would censor so I had to opt for a tinyurl solution): http://tinyurl.com/theyoutubeurlcontainsabadword

When a class/build is so broken people think they hack.

Anet balance team Ftw.

@Byakku.9187 Sorry for calling you a hacker xD You trolled me and those other 2 guys very good.
Also great name for a Thief you have there. And should also thank you for stalling the capture, I could finish the daily without possibly running into guys who would straight up kill me. Might try that build out myself.

It seems like the forum is better at giving constructive critisism and educating someone who might not know everything.

Even his guild name says it all.

Run, run as fast as you can!
You can’t catch me. I’m the Gingerbread Man!

Not hacks, just HoT “balance”. The gimmick builds.

Nutshell: Energy sigils, endurance on heal, endurance on physical skills, enhanced vigor effectiveness, Instant Reflexes trait, Hard to Catch trait aka ayee lmao full endurance again, endurance on steal, that weird food that gives 40% ENDURANCE REFILL… man is that even necessary? adventurer runes, stamina sigil if you haven’t gone full balls to the walls nomad troll mode oh and Signet of Agility if for whatever ungodly reason you somehow manage to run out of endurance.

Bonus brownie points: play a Sylvari and slot Take Root elite skill aka 3 seconds of invulnerable upon channelling if you ever somehow need a last resort oh snap button (usually full nomads).

Much like the evades… that list could go on as to why these seemingly un-hittable sustain monsters exist.

hes not cheating ur just not very good players sry to say…

just drop the lightning field on him and force him to waste stun breaks

• Evasion Disruption Trap added to WvW

Phew! The balance team dodged the issue. :P

Ovalkvadratcylinder.9365:

hes not cheating ur just not very good players sry to say…

just drop the lightning field on him and force him to waste stun breaks

Yeah. Lighting feild vs badits defence shadow step and return and hard to catch.

Ovalkvadratcylinder.9365:

hes not cheating ur just not very good players sry to say…

just drop the lightning field on him and force him to waste stun breaks

He wasn’t gonna do anything to that as a staff ele…. whats he gonna do? static fielding the heal is the best he could do then he has nothing to follow up.

Zephyra.4709:

that weird food that gives 40% ENDURANCE REFILL…

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bowl_of_Orrian_Truffle_and_Meat_Stew
He didn’t even use it. The build is so broken, that he just did not need it for permanent evading.

He used
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Roasted_Parsnip
to make sure that
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Instant_Reflexes
covers a whole 3 second stun.

All in all: Just stupid.

Digikid.7230:

Ovalkvadratcylinder.9365:

hes not cheating ur just not very good players sry to say…

just drop the lightning field on him and force him to waste stun breaks

He wasn’t gonna do anything to that as a staff ele…. whats he gonna do? static fielding the heal is the best he could do then he has nothing to follow up.

Read the psot again. Hes gonna waste the thieves stuns. Then use your brain tofigure out that the others can burst him. He doesnt have to die. People need to learn how to take control over the fight instead of whining

Ovalkvadratcylinder.9365:

Digikid.7230:

Ovalkvadratcylinder.9365:

hes not cheating ur just not very good players sry to say…

just drop the lightning field on him and force him to waste stun breaks

He wasn’t gonna do anything to that as a staff ele…. whats he gonna do? static fielding the heal is the best he could do then he has nothing to follow up.

Read the psot again. Hes gonna waste the thieves stuns. Then use your brain tofigure out that the others can burst him. He doesnt have to die. People need to learn how to take control over the fight instead of whining

Did you start playing the game yesterday? You can clearly see that this thief is only built to troll, it has at least 4 stun breaks in it, what the hell is a single static feild gonna go? Again there is no fight here, it’s 3 or 4 people trying hard to kill a troll thief that will not die, they should of just wp and went to another camp Or bl.

Fat Disgrace.4275:

Did you start playing the game yesterday? You can clearly see that this thief is only built to troll, it has at least 4 stun breaks in it, what the hell is a single static feild gonna go? Again there is no fight here, it’s 3 or 4 people trying hard to kill a troll thief that will not die, they should of just wp and went to another camp Or bl.

Best camp bunker build. Ever.

Wait, this probably also works in SMC.

Anet: Let’s change evade to be invulnerable so that it would prevent capture-point contribution.

Looks super broken..
Also how can you do this for more than 30 seconds without killing yourself out of boredom lol

It’s obvious that the thief class needs more evades.

It’s funny that if you’re going to find a broken build it’s in WvW but the skill balance team only looks at sPvP and PvE.

Great example how broken some builds can be. People start to accuse em for hacking

Hurray balance team, well done!

Would this still work after scheduled “skill balance” changes for tomorrow Feb. 22nd?

Please keep us updated.

Thanks.

Ovalkvadratcylinder.9365:

Digikid.7230:

Ovalkvadratcylinder.9365:

hes not cheating ur just not very good players sry to say…

just drop the lightning field on him and force him to waste stun breaks

He wasn’t gonna do anything to that as a staff ele…. whats he gonna do? static fielding the heal is the best he could do then he has nothing to follow up.

Read the psot again. Hes gonna waste the thieves stuns. Then use your brain tofigure out that the others can burst him. He doesnt have to die. People need to learn how to take control over the fight instead of whining

You actually defending this kitten ? haha,dude the guy in the vid is making 10 – 12 evades in a row..The kitten do you want him to try and counter it ? The OP even think he hacks,which is quite normal when you see something as stupid as this.

Byakku.9187:

Hey there, figured I’d be in a position to contribute to this discussion.

Siphon.8405:

[…] Staff/Staff with sigils of endurance
Runes are adventurer for 100% daredevil stamina heal with channeled vigor. […]

Truth be told, I wasn’t using Adventurer at the time. I was on a test run with Runes of the Earth to find out whether or not I truly need the extra endurance; same goes for the daredevil heal which is usually too risky to take in fights involving multiple competent enemies since random/targeted rupts can pretty much kill you instantly.

Here’s a video (along with UTTERLY terrible music added in a feeble attempt at replacing the original file’s audio with something even more cringeworthy, you HAVE been warned) of how this usually goes (and ends): https://youtu.be/vlIXP81Hx9Y?t=1m15s

Also, the OP might want to remove any references to account names from his post, else this thread will soon be deleted.

OMG, that’s absolutely hysterical… pmsl. LOLOL

Moar evades plz.

Haha oh man, I’ve run into this build before; had some1 tapping our keep in EBG for nearly an hour or two and no matter how many of us chased him, we couldn’t down him. It’s a huuuuuuge pain in the kitten to try and kill it and honestly it’s borderline op for this reason.

The only way I’ve found to effectively kill this build is luck; get a DH or two (and a condi ranger/thief if possible), have them lay ALL of their traps in a place you expect the thief to run across, and stay around 1200-1800 units from this location. If the burst doesn’t kill them, open up with an unblockable. Even then, if the thief expects this, they can possibly survive (Instant reflexes trait in acro + very fast shadowstep).

Zephyra.4709:

Run, run as fast as you can!
You can’t catch me. I’m the Gingerbread Man!

Not hacks, just HoT “balance”. The gimmick builds.

Nutshell: Energy sigils, endurance on heal, endurance on physical skills, enhanced vigor effectiveness, Instant Reflexes trait, Hard to Catch trait aka ayee lmao full endurance again, endurance on steal, that weird food that gives 40% ENDURANCE REFILL… man is that even necessary? adventurer runes, stamina sigil if you haven’t gone full balls to the walls nomad troll mode oh and Signet of Agility if for whatever ungodly reason you somehow manage to run out of endurance.

Bonus brownie points: play a Sylvari and slot Take Root elite skill aka 3 seconds of invulnerable upon channelling if you ever somehow need a last resort oh snap button (usually full nomads).

Much like the evades… that list could go on as to why these seemingly un-hittable sustain monsters exist.

You are forgetting Staff 3 for the 1/2s evade. If you jump with use, you can remove the movement aftercast and get the full frames of the evade with a weapon stow.
… nerf incoming …

they fxed that a few months back.

Byakku.9187:

Hey there, figured I’d be in a position to contribute to this discussion.

Siphon.8405:

[…] Staff/Staff with sigils of endurance
Runes are adventurer for 100% daredevil stamina heal with channeled vigor. […]

Truth be told, I wasn’t using Adventurer at the time. I was on a test run with Runes of the Earth to find out whether or not I truly need the extra endurance; same goes for the daredevil heal which is usually too risky to take in fights involving multiple competent enemies since random/targeted rupts can pretty much kill you instantly.

Here’s a video (along with UTTERLY terrible music added in a feeble attempt at replacing the original file’s audio with something even more cringeworthy, you HAVE been warned) of how this usually goes (and ends): https://youtu.be/vlIXP81Hx9Y?t=1m15s

Also, the OP might want to remove any references to account names from his post, else this thread will soon be deleted.

HoT in a nutshell

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZUQNAW4Kn8lClOBGOB0zhFqiyLE+gSoLBCgDYO77+yH-TlxHABMpE8bdDvr+TPK/2Z/BAOIAiBoK-w

How to kitten off zergs and commanders 101.

Condi the build up and STOP attacking. Kills 90% of staff builds.

Very good builds go DD, SA and Acro with Bound. Those builds hit like a truck, very difficult to condi down and are slippery as hell. Very good players slow roll that build making counters near impossible. It is probably the strongest roaming build when played well in the game right now.

No one going to jump on the “obstructed” errors? No?

It’s a truly hilarious build and actually very good for “tanking” 10-15 people in large fights if they take the bait easily.

I do wonder if Anet wanted us to be able to constantly evade indefinitely. They might as well just revert the Well of Precognition nerf and increase the evade duration, so we can just sit in Mesmer wells, not really doing anything….ever.

rotsono.9176:

Looks super broken..
Also how can you do this for more than 30 seconds without killing yourself out of boredom lol

So it takes a nomad thief to make people realize how horrible the professions/HoT are/is designed for PvP/WvW now?

There’s a reason a huge number of WvW and PvP players outright left the game. Interactions like this are all over the elites. This is what it took to make the thief competitive. Everything’s just so busted it’s absolutely stupid.