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Posted by: RockonHarder.7235

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http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Alright so i’m trying to get a handle on how the scoring affect’s our Evolution in the ranking system.

the reason i’m asking is i’m looking at the tier 4 NA match up and all i see is the winning server dropping in rank while the 2 losing servers are going up.

Thanks in Advance.

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Posted by: Xericor.9103

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There is a sticky thread that goes into detail on how scoring is worked out.
From that list though, the Tier 4 is losing position because their ranking suggests they should be doing better than they are. The fight(points gap) is too close/small.

Yak started the week over 160pts in rating higher than their rivals, in terms of game points the gap would be expected to be 60k for example. The actual game score is only +7k/9k, suggesting Yak are under performing against a technicaly weaker opponents

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Posted by: Drede.4701

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If you want the fancy math answer go here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/The-math-behind-WvW-ratings/first#post955751

But my theory is simply Yak’s previous rating compared to the other two was higher than the matchups scores are indicating. On paper Yak’s should dominate this matchup but that isn’t happening because of numerous factors most importantly, because humans are playing the game not computers.

One thing to keep in mind as well, is that the ratings are so easily changed that it is almost pointless to look at them so early in the week. As the week goes on, if Yak’s continues to hold the lead and grow it their rating will move back up.

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Posted by: Phzt.9864

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Where do you see the winning server dropping a rank in t4…? I think you mean rating, which is different, or you’re reading the site wrong. Yak’s is winning, but they aren’t winning by what the rankings would suggest. Since they’re only winning by a bit, the rankings are adjusting so they’re only a bit better rated.

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Posted by: Drede.4701

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I think he means the actual glick score is dropping on Yaks and going up on Mag and EB. Although looking at tier 5 this gets a bit more confusing. Why is DH taking the hit not Dragonbrand in a very close matchup? I’d assume it is because they only have a 5k lead on NSP and DB only has a 8k lead when both are about 50 rating points ahead of NSP

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Posted by: RockonHarder.7235

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Yes i was refering to the movment in the evolution rating for each server.

i also hadn’t thought that the External site was using the same scoring system.

thanks though that clears it up for me.

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Posted by: RockonHarder.7235

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I think he means the actual glick score is dropping on Yaks and going up on Mag and EB. Although looking at tier 5 this gets a bit more confusing. Why is DH taking the hit not Dragonbrand in a very close matchup? I’d assume it is because they only have a 5k lead on NSP and DB only has a 8k lead when both are about 50 rating points ahead of NSP

Yeah thats what i was refering to. sorry for not being clearer.

i was also looking at the tier 6 match-up and noticed that AV and SF were really close in score and rating but SF was dropping by 3 times the amount.

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Posted by: Drede.4701

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That would be because SF is the second team and is not only losing badly to the first team, but is losing to the third team as well. So AV is taking a hit for getting blown out by BP, although not as big a hit as the “better” SF server, but is gaining some of it back for currently leading SF. And yes I am generalizing ALOT since it is a fairly intricate formula.

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Posted by: Peetee.9406

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Not a fan of this scoring system at all.

I am not going to say that any server in Tier 2 would beat any server in Tier 1 but how are we ever going to find out if the server that has won in Tier 2 the last 3 weeks continues to go down in rating while the server that finishes in last in Tier 1 continues to go up.

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Posted by: RockonHarder.7235

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Not a fan of this scoring system at all.

I am not going to say that any server in Tier 2 would beat any server in Tier 1 but how are we ever going to find out if the server that has won in Tier 2 the last 3 weeks continues to go down in rating while the server that finishes in last in Tier 1 continues to go up.

That is a good question.

Stalemate until people get bored or tired?

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