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So…ever planning on fixing this? Last night I got hit by 5 cor’s instantly while standing behind a gate trying to rez someone….

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So…ever planning on fixing this? Last night I got hit by 5 cor’s instantly while standing behind a gate trying to rez someone….

I hope they never “fix” this. It’s one of the few counters for door catas and similar siege-troll tactics.

James Rustler.7860:

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So…ever planning on fixing this? Last night I got hit by 5 cor’s instantly while standing behind a gate trying to rez someone….

I hope they never “fix” this. It’s one of the few counters for door catas and similar siege-troll tactics.

That is one of the worst reasons ever for not fixing a bug. I was not even on siege, or against the gate, I was standing about 900 range behind the gate.

James Rustler.7860:

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So…ever planning on fixing this? Last night I got hit by 5 cor’s instantly while standing behind a gate trying to rez someone….

I hope they never “fix” this. It’s one of the few counters for door catas and similar siege-troll tactics.

Exactly. Very hard to take keeps now a days when you have entire map q’s sitting on siege with portable cannons. xvx on BG is a prime example.

Working as intended

jamesdolla.3954:

James Rustler.7860:

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So…ever planning on fixing this? Last night I got hit by 5 cor’s instantly while standing behind a gate trying to rez someone….

I hope they never “fix” this. It’s one of the few counters for door catas and similar siege-troll tactics.

Exactly. Very hard to take keeps now a days when you have entire map q’s sitting on siege with portable cannons. xvx on BG is a prime example.

Pretty funny watching you guys bunker up in smc with arrow carts everywhere, running to your cannons every chance you can.

It’s nearly as ridiculous as stealth. I don’t expect it to ever be fixed because;

• They are just tweaking numbers here and there now,
• Most of the staff appear to be Living Snory/[costume/weapon/glider] designers

I love blowing up the guy on the cata that thinks they’re safe. Probably needs fixed but will steal a bit of my joy.

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James Rustler.7860:

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So…ever planning on fixing this? Last night I got hit by 5 cor’s instantly while standing behind a gate trying to rez someone….

I hope they never “fix” this. It’s one of the few counters for door catas and similar siege-troll tactics.

That is one of the worst reasons ever for not fixing a bug. I was not even on siege, or against the gate, I was standing about 900 range behind the gate.

Not saying you were. When one bug is the only way to counter another bug, you can’t really fix one unless you fix both. Siege behind gates shouldn’t be able to, e.g., knock people off rams—at least not without damaging their own gate—but it does; as long as it does, I’m perfectly fine with attacks hitting through gates in the opposite direction.

To be honest, I suspect that the reason they haven’t fixed either is because of some technical limitation that they feel would be more costly to work through than it’s worth.

Like Dragons tooth before the ground target change, I think this is intentional. Same with terrain disruption.

I always asked myself if this is a bug or if it is meant to work this way. I also suspect it to be intentional.
Did we get an official statement about this?

Lahmia.2193:

Like Dragons tooth before the ground target change, I think this is intentional. Same with terrain disruption.

“Intentional” in this case being how this type of AoE works on a code level and Anet not bothering to “fix” it.

No AoE should ever go through objects but you see thats pretty complicated math. Its easier to damage everything in the circle than calculate whether objects are blocked by terrain or statics. Its the same reason why cata/treb/cannon/etc damage go through doors or why arrowcarts can be placed out of sight. GW2 has an impressive and extensive missile system for an MMO otherwise but the impacts… not so much.

I would argue that they should fix all this instead of us arguing that one bug is required because other bugs exist (lol) but nah, it aint gonna happen. Instead, they can simply delete current CoR by changing the way the AoE works instead, we have plenty of ingame attacks that “shoot” AoE in front but is blocked by objects. And they could delete the lootstick while they are at it.

Dawdler.8521:

Lahmia.2193:

Like Dragons tooth before the ground target change, I think this is intentional. Same with terrain disruption.

“Intentional” in this case being how this type of AoE works on a code level and Anet not bothering to “fix” it.

No AoE should ever go through objects but you see thats pretty complicated math. Its easier to damage everything in the circle than calculate whether objects are blocked by terrain or statics. Its the same reason why cata/treb/cannon/etc damage go through doors or why arrowcarts can be placed out of sight. GW2 has an impressive and extensive missile system for an MMO otherwise but the impacts… not so much.

I would argue that they should fix all this instead of us arguing that one bug is required because other bugs exist (lol) but nah, it aint gonna happen. Instead, they can simply delete current CoR by changing the way the AoE works instead, we have plenty of ingame attacks that “shoot” AoE in front but is blocked by objects. And they could delete the lootstick while they are at it.

I might be wrong, but didnt they try to fix this before? When there was a bigger issue with hammer bolt and cor hitting through gates/walls? Honestly I wish they just changed CoR to not slide on the ground but rather travel through the air sort of like a beam, if anything that would make it much more reliable and solve a lot of these issues.

Dawdler.8521:

No AoE should ever go through objects

That would mean that rams cannot launch opponents reparing the gate, wells, marks, traps wouldn’t hit through the gate, ACs, cannons, trebs and catas couldn’t hit you from the other side of the gate. This clearly wasn’t the intention of Arenanet here, they wanted some AoE to hit through the gate, just not through the wall, thus making those two structures different in fighting scenarios.

I am unsure about this issue, if it is a bug or not. I personally like the different ways attacks work (so for example this attack won’t hit if there is a crack in the ground between you and the attacker), but you guys are right: if it is a bug, it should be fixed. If it is not, it would be nice to have someone tell us it is intentional.

Rink.6108:

Dawdler.8521:

No AoE should ever go through objects

That would mean that rams cannot launch opponents reparing the gate, wells, marks, traps wouldn’t hit through the gate, ACs, cannons, trebs and catas couldn’t hit you from the other side of the gate. This clearly wasn’t the intention of Arenanet here, they wanted some AoE to hit through the gate, just not through the wall, thus making those two structures different in fighting scenarios.

I am unsure about this issue, if it is a bug or not. I personally like the different ways attacks work (so for example this attack won’t hit if there is a crack in the ground between you and the attacker), but you guys are right: if it is a bug, it should be fixed. If it is not, it would be nice to have someone tell us it is intentional.

Actually, yes. Thats exactly what it would mean.

The attacks can be solved in other ways, for example ram knockback. You could change the attack to make the door unrepairable over 10s instead, giving door ramming an aspect similar to cata shielding.

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James Rustler.7860:

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So…ever planning on fixing this? Last night I got hit by 5 cor’s instantly while standing behind a gate trying to rez someone….

I hope they never “fix” this. It’s one of the few counters for door catas and similar siege-troll tactics.

That is one of the worst reasons ever for not fixing a bug. I was not even on siege, or against the gate, I was standing about 900 range behind the gate.

Gimmick VS gimmick = Anet balance….. players love low effort gimmicks…

Aeolus.3615:

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James Rustler.7860:

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So…ever planning on fixing this? Last night I got hit by 5 cor’s instantly while standing behind a gate trying to rez someone….

I hope they never “fix” this. It’s one of the few counters for door catas and similar siege-troll tactics.

That is one of the worst reasons ever for not fixing a bug. I was not even on siege, or against the gate, I was standing about 900 range behind the gate.

Gimmick VS gimmick = Anet balance….. players love low effort gimmicks…

Or low programming skillz.

It is fine, love spamming people through the door.

Relax and just play Rev

There are several classes that have skills that go straight through a gate, fix one and you would have to fix them all.

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jamesdolla.3954:

James Rustler.7860:

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So…ever planning on fixing this? Last night I got hit by 5 cor’s instantly while standing behind a gate trying to rez someone….

I hope they never “fix” this. It’s one of the few counters for door catas and similar siege-troll tactics.

Exactly. Very hard to take keeps now a days when you have entire map q’s sitting on siege with portable cannons. xvx on BG is a prime example.

Pretty funny watching you guys bunker up in smc with arrow carts everywhere, running to your cannons every chance you can.

Ya, BG never bunkers SM. Who do you think the pugs on mag learned bunking sm from? the “mighty” BG. Funny how a XVX guy is crying about the rev hammer through gates while building a cannon on inner keep on reset night. Next thing you know ele meteor showers will be nerfed so no one can take anything and we can all sit in keeps all day. This game is too much about sitting on siege all day and less about fights.

Not only that but I am getting pulled through gates now.

jamesdolla.3954:

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jamesdolla.3954:

James Rustler.7860:

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So…ever planning on fixing this? Last night I got hit by 5 cor’s instantly while standing behind a gate trying to rez someone….

I hope they never “fix” this. It’s one of the few counters for door catas and similar siege-troll tactics.

Exactly. Very hard to take keeps now a days when you have entire map q’s sitting on siege with portable cannons. xvx on BG is a prime example.

Pretty funny watching you guys bunker up in smc with arrow carts everywhere, running to your cannons every chance you can.

Ya, BG never bunkers SM. Who do you think the pugs on mag learned bunking sm from? the “mighty” BG. Funny how a XVX guy is crying about the rev hammer through gates while building a cannon on inner keep on reset night. Next thing you know ele meteor showers will be nerfed so no one can take anything and we can all sit in keeps all day. This game is too much about sitting on siege all day and less about fights.

Wow someone on a different map was building a cannon. I’ll make sure to alert the police. Dont be upset with me because you guys cant fight without ac’s, cannons, trebs, and mortars, or be upset I couldnt care less. This thread is about cor hitting through gates, and whether or not it is a bug or intended. If you want to troll, take it to the other forum.

Straegen.2938:

Not only that but I am getting pulled through gates now.

Is that from the mesmer focus pull? Or something else?

No, this skill should be like this bg loves to bunker. Too many defensive stuff in wvw atm. Please offer more offensive items arenanet <3.

CoR is working as intended. Don’t stand behind the gate unless you can take the pressure. CoRing through the gate is pretty much the same as someone attacking your rams through the gate. Working as intended.

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

CoR is working as intended. Don’t stand behind the gate unless you can take the pressure. CoRing through the gate is pretty much the same as someone attacking your rams through the gate. Working as intended.

How is it intended when it is reaching 900 range through the gate.

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MaLeVoLenT.8129:

CoR is working as intended. Don’t stand behind the gate unless you can take the pressure. CoRing through the gate is pretty much the same as someone attacking your rams through the gate. Working as intended.

How is it intended when it is reaching 900 range through the gate.

CoR hits 1,200 in range through gates because its not a projectile. It travels under the ground like an earth eruption by passing under the door. The same way a balistia or projectile can shoot through the upper crack of a door. The damage from CoR happens at your feet and because a door is a door there is no seal underneath.

I don’t see a problem with CoR hitting like it does. If they were to change it, I would want them to make all objects, damage and siege not being able to hit things through sealed doors. Because they can, and by mechanic of CoR, it’s working as intended.

Build gates through dirt… t4 gates/ immune+perma reflect. Okay maybe not.

I think many professions mechanics like this. Not directly like CoR, but guard’s broomstick sweeps through gates… pretty sure some of those necro marks get through too. While CoR is a longer range, it is narrow.

If I were to make a guess, i would assume Arc Divider also reaches through gates too.

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

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MaLeVoLenT.8129:

CoR is working as intended. Don’t stand behind the gate unless you can take the pressure. CoRing through the gate is pretty much the same as someone attacking your rams through the gate. Working as intended.

How is it intended when it is reaching 900 range through the gate.

CoR hits 1,200 in range through gates because its not a projectile. It travels under the ground like an earth eruption by passing under the door. The same way a balistia or projectile can shoot through the upper crack of a door. The damage from CoR happens at your feet and because a door is a door there is no seal underneath.

I don’t see a problem with CoR hitting like it does. If they were to change it, I would want them to make all objects, damage and siege not being able to hit things through sealed doors. Because they can, and by mechanic of CoR, it’s working as intended.

That is also the reason why it gets stuck on uneven terrain. But it hasn’t stopped people qq’ing and requesting a bug fix, even though it is a likely intended mechanic.

Lahmia.2193:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

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MaLeVoLenT.8129:

CoR is working as intended. Don’t stand behind the gate unless you can take the pressure. CoRing through the gate is pretty much the same as someone attacking your rams through the gate. Working as intended.

How is it intended when it is reaching 900 range through the gate.

CoR hits 1,200 in range through gates because its not a projectile. It travels under the ground like an earth eruption by passing under the door. The same way a balistia or projectile can shoot through the upper crack of a door. The damage from CoR happens at your feet and because a door is a door there is no seal underneath.

I don’t see a problem with CoR hitting like it does. If they were to change it, I would want them to make all objects, damage and siege not being able to hit things through sealed doors. Because they can, and by mechanic of CoR, it’s working as intended.

That is also the reason why it gets stuck on uneven terrain. But it hasn’t stopped people qq’ing and requesting a bug fix, even though it is a likely intended mechanic.

Yeah, correct.

Hexinx.1872:

If I were to make a guess, i would assume Arc Divider also reaches through gates too.

Yep it does. Doesn’t have near the range (or damage) CoR does though.

Hexalot.8194:

Hexinx.1872:

If I were to make a guess, i would assume Arc Divider also reaches through gates too.

Yep it does. Doesn’t have near the range (or damage) CoR does though.

I have been hit by a CoR for 15k and Arc divider for 17k yeah doesn’t have anywhere near the damage though…

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Hexalot.8194:

Hexinx.1872:

If I were to make a guess, i would assume Arc Divider also reaches through gates too.

Yep it does. Doesn’t have near the range (or damage) CoR does though.

I have been hit by a CoR for 15k and Arc divider for 17k yeah doesn’t have anywhere near the damage though…

I run both Rev and Warr… pure glass for each. I’ve never managed to get my arc dividers to crit anywhere near what my Rev’s CoR can do… and that doesn’t even factor in the Rev’s bonus 50% damage increase trait on block. SO yeah… I think you’re exaggerating like no tomorrow.

Hexalot.8194:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Hexalot.8194:

Hexinx.1872:

If I were to make a guess, i would assume Arc Divider also reaches through gates too.

Yep it does. Doesn’t have near the range (or damage) CoR does though.

I have been hit by a CoR for 15k and Arc divider for 17k yeah doesn’t have anywhere near the damage though…

I run both Rev and Warr… pure glass for each. I’ve never managed to get my arc dividers to crit anywhere near what my Rev’s CoR can do… and that doesn’t even factor in the Rev’s bonus 50% damage increase trait on block. SO yeah… I think you’re exaggerating like no tomorrow.

Nope was running pretty much full glass on a Thief wearing marauders armor and Zerker weapons and trinks which put my health at just over 17k with the food I had at the time, I was one shot. I had never seen the attack hit that hard before but yeah it can hit that hard.

Tomorrow I will try to find the screenshot of it and post it.

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Straegen.2938:

Not only that but I am getting pulled through gates now.

Is that from the mesmer focus pull? Or something else?

I’ve been pulled through the gate by Dragonhunter spears quite a few times if they hit me while I’m getting inside. That to not mention when you get pulled, tossed in the air and die from fall damage… Dragonhunter pull have so many bugs.

Jeknar.6184:

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Straegen.2938:

Not only that but I am getting pulled through gates now.

Is that from the mesmer focus pull? Or something else?

I’ve been pulled through the gate by Dragonhunter spears quite a few times if they hit me while I’m getting inside. That to not mention when you get pulled, tossed in the air and die from fall damage… Dragonhunter pull have so many bugs.

That is a physics bug rather than a DH one. All pulls can bug out and cause you to fly in the air. It is just DH is currently the most common pull in the game (and the best).

Jeknar.6184:

I’ve been pulled through the gate by Dragonhunter spears quite a few times if they hit me while I’m getting inside. That to not mention when you get pulled, tossed in the air and die from fall damage… Dragonhunter pull have so many bugs.

This. Jeknar beat me to it. If a DH lasso’s you, they can pull you right through that gate.

Seen some very strange uses of temporal curtain too. Some people are able to drop aoes in places my los never reaches…inner edge of a wall for example. It doesn’t happen often and you can usually identify exactly who’s doing it and avoid. I’ve been pulled up the stairs and to the edge from the other side of the wall though. Not sure if it’s something you can pull off with action camera or what.

Ive seen meteor showers set nearly halfway past the edge of the wall.