Guild Wars 2

Can you please have a deep look at how the classes interact with each other?
I have no troubles to fight against “vanilla” builds but I have no chance to even see what hits me when I’m fighting against Elites. I have no idea how the programming is – I do know that there’s differences between classes since I haven’t been able to fight especially thieves (I am one myself) since a patch 1,5 years ago and that was recently fixed. Now it seems that this bug effects all Elites, they seem faster than me, can just outrun my attacks and as I already said: I can’t even see what hits me when fighting against them.

ETA: I created this thread in the bug forum but it was moved here so probably those who are responsible for bugs will never see it :P
I still mean it though – check your combat programming for wvw, pls.

i agree with you. there are some definite bugs in combat. with no lags, nothing unusual going on graphically I can be at 2/3 health one second, go in for an attack or back up to reset then …..boom, dead. No retal, no animation from the opponent, nothing that equates in the combat log to my health loss….just buggy

Hey, someone knows what I’m talking about – thanks a lot – people are calling me crazy for years now

I think the combat log is borked. Several times I take 5k+ damage out of no where with nothing showing up on the combat log.

Rev hammer 2 can be hard to see coming and will knock you flat if you’re running glassy. Zerk gunflame will get you too. It sounds like you’re talking about power dmg or I’d suspect trapper thief.

Not much else that can sneak up on you without being obvious at least after you’re downed. A good power thief maybe but you should see a flicker before they stealth to stomp. They don’t really need elite spec for that either.

Reh.5986:

Rev hammer 2 can be hard to see coming and will knock you flat if you’re running glassy. Zerk gunflame will get you too. It sounds like you’re talking about power dmg or I’d suspect trapper thief.

Not much else that can sneak up on you without being obvious at least after you’re downed. A good power thief maybe but you should see a flicker before they stealth to stomp. They don’t really need elite spec for that either.

That’s why I said it’s a bug. Doesn’t have to apply to you – I don’t know what makes me (and probably others) special.
I’m running a D/D power thief – so my 2 main attacks are single target, I have only one port (which helps sometimes) – people who run a class/build with lots of aoe damage might not even notice that there are bugs.
But I haven’t been able to even hit thieves for 1,5 years – I complained plenty of times and they fixed it a few weeks ago. I had problems with other classes as well but thieves was really bad – now the same applies to most Elites – so I do know that I’ve had a bug the past 1,5 years and I do know that this is a bug as well. I’m no programmer that’s why I’m asking anet to examine if there are indeed programming bugs for (wvw) combat.

ETA: For example: I would see a hammer swing if I’m facing a rev 1 vs 1 – but I’m not seeing it – I get the damage in, port to them, miss them, get the next damage in without seeing that they did anything.

Yes, this has happened to me, then look to see what had hit me and the log shows no significant dmg or HP loss. How are we suppose to function or improve without any feedback on why we lost HP? I even look at my video and play it frame by frame and it will show nothing.

All MMO’s suffer meta builds. About the only thing you can do is use fire to fight fire. Find a meta build and run with it. Move to another MMO and you will probably see the same thing.

Complaining about a very specific thing might generate a small adjustment but it takes a LONG time in most cases. Perplexity was OP for years, PU Mesmers basically ruled roaming for months, Durability has been busted for months, Confusion has been perpetually broken sans a handful of months, etc.

its ok a lot of damage doesnt even appear in the combat logs, for example the mesmer mantra skills. You get use to it after a while and it will probably never be fixed

MangoCrush.7819:

its ok a lot of damage doesnt even appear in the combat logs, for example the mesmer mantra skills. You get use to it after a while and it will probably never be fixed

Been four years… it won’t be fixed.

Straegen.2938:

Complaining about a very specific thing might generate a small adjustment but it takes a LONG time in most cases. Perplexity was OP for years, PU Mesmers basically ruled roaming for months, Durability has been busted for months, Confusion has been perpetually broken sans a handful of months, etc.

You do get that I’m complaining about them being op because the game is bugged not because anet made the Elites faceroll, yes?
I’m “fine” to lose against them if I’m even allowed to hit them.

Some skills do not show in combat log, had a CoR clipped from ground slope, no red numbers no combat log, half damage to health, no red cracking comming, just the health damage.

Know it was CoR due, figthing a hammer rev at that momment.

Jana.6831:

You do get that I’m complaining about them being op because the game is bugged not because anet made the Elites faceroll, yes?
I’m “fine” to lose against them if I’m even allowed to hit them.

Broad complaints typically get completely ignored. Specific complaints made for long periods of time sometimes get adjustments. It is very unlikely Anet is going to do a mass class balance from general player complaints.

I agree with your base statement, but my point is do you want to make things a bit better by posting a specific issue or be mostly if not completely ignored by ANet?

Straegen.2938:

Jana.6831:

You do get that I’m complaining about them being op because the game is bugged not because anet made the Elites faceroll, yes?
I’m “fine” to lose against them if I’m even allowed to hit them.

Broad complaints typically get completely ignored. Specific complaints made for long periods of time sometimes get adjustments.

It is very unlikely Anet is going to do a mass class balance from general player complaints.

It’s a bug not a balance problem – and I waited 1,5 years for another bug to be fixed – what should I do in your opinion shut up because “MMOs are like this and runes and stuff” THAT ISN’T THE POINT!

I did post a specific matter – I can’t do it more specifically – if that isn’t good enough for you just leave.

Huh. I had no idea this was a thing. I’ve noticed the lack of info in the combat log before. Doesn’t take long to realize the 2K amount of damage that is showing isn’t what killed a toon.

Araphelbliss.4016:

Huh. I had no idea this was a thing. I’ve noticed the lack of info in the combat log before. Doesn’t take long to realize the 2K amount of damage that is showing isn’t what killed a toon.

lol, well yeah, that is the issue.
There are certain times when you have lost all your health for no “apparent” reason and if you did not see an animation nor anything that justified it in the combat log AND everything in the combat log you do remember seeing and accounting for…..then, there is a problem
Its hard to be specific about something you never saw and there is no record of but it still killed you.

Aeolus.3615:

Some skills do not show in combat log, had a CoR clipped from ground slope, no red numbers no combat log, half damage to health, no red cracking comming, just the health damage.

Know it was CoR due, figthing a hammer rev at that momment.

Think I’ve had the same thing happen with cor specifically. For that matter, there’s some real twilight zone quality stuff that happens with slopes in this game.

For example one bug that has recently been fixed (if my memory doesn’t fail me) and is now back – but I only noticed that in pve, might be that it’s in wvw as well but I’d need a 1 vs 1 or small scale to see that: enemies can simply run through my CnD – I cast it, they’re in front to me, about to pass me – but they just run through the CnD.
The Elites seem to be a bit better though – but then again, I need a 1 vs 1 or small scale to test it – the small scale I had tonight seemed unbugged.
Long story short: It might be that anet are currently working on the combat and that’s why I come across all these bugs as it’s work in progress.
In that case – thanks for working on it, anet, I do hope the results will be bug-free – otherwise I will keep on nagging