Guild Wars 2

Just wondering if there is a possibility of combining servers for wvw, as most people/guilds tend to be attracted to T1 and T2 servers in NA like a fly to a light, and the season is making this more apparent, tapering the numbers in lower tiers.

hopefully by solving this i wont be the 94th person to quit the game since July 24th from my server.

Thank you.

Please Anet, please. We need this.

I actually don’t want server mergers. I like not dealing with 100 man zergs all day

The unfortunate part is really just the perception.

People don’t like to loose and in our case our victory or defeat is completely out of our hands. With population decline of any form, it puts strain on the lower tiers. While this game has definitely lost popularity, it is still outstandingly strong in my opinion.

Really do need something to be done soon though because the only thing I don’t find enjoyable about WvW is watching people want to stay on our team and in our community while wanting to leave at the same time due to consistently losing and unmatchable odds.

I’m on a low tier server that has been in the same losing matchup for over a month. I will quit the game if my server is merged. I enjoy where our server is at, though I would enjoy more variance in matchups. I don’t want to be forcibly merged with a community I may or may not like. I don’t want to be merged into a population equal or superior to that of current silver league servers. I like it precisely where I am (t6). People can transfer off if they don’t like it here, but once my server is merged it’s gone forever. Unacceptable to me personally. Just my opinion.

Im on a low tier server and I like it. if you want more BvB transfer up.

VIK.6205:

hopefully by solving this i wont be the 94th person to quit the game since July 24th from my server.

If you’re on a lower tier server and don’t like it, transfer. If you’re on a higher tier sever, why do you care how the folks in a lower tier play?

Do not merge servers. When you quit, send me your stuff.

Synosius.9876:

Im on a low tier server and I like it. if you want more BvB transfer up.

There ya go! +1

(same here: Low tier server, and loving it )

My servers presence is after 4:pm eastern, the rest of the day there is maybe 10 people, most servers have a presence like this but at different times, combining the lower servers would be beneficial then compared to transferring/ stacking t1 and t2 which is what is happening since they announced the new season. Conbining the lower servers has a better opportunity for different matchups, since t1 and t2 are primarily the same comp every week.

As it was said before:

Blockhead Magee.3092:

If you’re on a lower tier server and don’t like it, transfer. If you’re on a higher tier sever, why do you care how the folks in a lower tier play?

Should they merge my low tier server, I won’t be playing WvW anymore. WvW is not BvB for me..
Remember: In WvW you fight for YOUR server. Should that be a megaserver, I won’t feel as connected to my “home” at all..

T1 is more than just, “omg, BLOB!!” Anyways, it’ll be unlikely that servers can move up to equal T1 because they lack coverage. Most of the WvW players who play outside of NA prime are in T1 since that’s the only place they’ll get much of any action.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: the lower tiers are not a resource for the higher tier servers to stripmine so they can prop up their particular playstyle that seems to be losing people as well.

Most of us like where we are and can always transfer if we don’t. Since we aren’t transferring up in droves, don’t think that forcing us to does anybody any favours.

How about scattering the entire population of the gold tiers over the other eighteen servers instead? Makes about as much sense.

Rimmy.9217:

How about scattering the entire population of the gold tiers over the other eighteen servers instead? Makes about as much sense.

That actually might be the best idea ever, just close the T1 servers and give guilds a free world transfer where the guild leader can move everyone on the roster who was repping last time they played to the new destination world so the inactives are not lost when they show back up after a break. Sure some people might find themselves in the wrong place and it take awhile to things to settle down but it seems pretty clear to me that world transfers is how ANET makes $$ off of WvW so might as well let them soak up some more. >.<

T1 worlds do actually have pretty strong core communities but they’ve also weathered the most dramatic changes and learned a lot about how to work together so why not spread those gifts around a bit. Of course ANET would have to lower world and WvW map population caps a good deal to make sure the spread went over fairly even and didn’t just all end up stacking to a new home.

I expect a lot of lower tier worlds would find this method just as objectionable which is too bad. Shaking things up completely would do a lot to make S3 more interesting and might be the last best chance at finding some kind of population balance.

I do not think that such a great ideal ppl who like wvw tend to transfer on there own so the wvw pop can go where there are fights. The other worlds where there are less wvw fights tend to be pop by ppl who do not like blob fights or simply do not wvw at a high rate. In a way the meag world system for pve has made this type of set up work a lot better for the lower end worlds that have ppl who may not like big wvw fight or not wvw at all for ppt with out losing pve maps being full of ppl.

What we need to do as a community is to set up lower pop worlds as small wvw or more non ppt aimed wvw fights and the higher tear worlds as ppt and blob fight aimed. Every one has there own views on fun and they all are right no ones fun is better then others ppl fun.

Even in T2 zerging is not wall to wall. Sure there is often a blob on a map or two during NA prime but it isn’t this mass wall of people constantly running down roamers. If you want quality consistent fights, move up. If you want PvDoor action with fewer roaming opponents move down.

When I left T4, I could flip an entire BLs camps without seeing a soul in NA prime. I am guessing that still happens. T2 is slightly better these days but even our group of skirmishers is eyeing T1 as the population declines in T2.

I’ve actually been thinking recently that we need to combine servers for normal WvW like they do in EoTM, On my server (Tarnished coast) all borderlands are empty and we have not even a single camp except for on our home borderlands. It used to not be like this but it seems we are losing population.. I would love to see wvw servers merged. It would make me soooo happy.

This has already been discussed on this thread.

P.S: I think this is the most “reposted post” I have.

Jeknar.6184:

This has already been discussed on this thread.

P.S: I think this is the most “reposted post” I have.

That’s a suggestion to merge the bottom tier servers, This suggestion is to link all servers to normal wvw as they are linked in EoTM. Which is great.

Rimmy.9217:

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: the lower tiers are not a resource for the higher tier servers to stripmine so they can prop up their particular playstyle that seems to be losing people as well.

Most of us like where we are and can always transfer if we don’t. Since we aren’t transferring up in droves, don’t think that forcing us to does anybody any favours.

How about scattering the entire population of the gold tiers over the other eighteen servers instead? Makes about as much sense.

Actually, people ARE transfering in droves out of lower tiers, specially around Season, and it’s been going on for months.

The total active players in pretty much all tiers have been more than halved, and in low tiers it’s because people moved to higher tiers because they were tired of having nothing to do but PvD 80% of the time…..

Pretending to “love” being on a lower tier server means 2 things :
- you ONLY play WvW once in a while, during prime time, in a guild group
- you have no idea how WvW looks like in mid/high silver/low gold CURRENTLY

The whole “it’s only BvB LoL” is totally false, and it’s EXACTLY the same in Bronze too, as people flock together as soon as they can if it means being able to fight the ennemy (FoW is the first one in lower tiers to do so….granted they can’t really do that often in their current position).

On opposite, in silver/gold, there is already enough people to cover the need for big groups, and hence there is room for chaos groups, roamers and such (and the disappearance of most solo roamers has nothing to do with “blobbing” it’s just that no one wants to face the stupid condi meta thief/mesmer metas alone [or worse face 2/3 of them at a time], and roamers banded together to 4/6 man teams (that allow them to flip towers too btw).

Everything you got in lower tiers is possible in better, more often, and at more times of day than in lower tiers… except hours at a time of PvDing with no ennemies, losing siege because no one is there to refresh it, and have the WHOLE WvW team on your side be comprised of under 10 people for hours at a time…….

Filovirus.6258:

a bunch of random uninformed stuff snipped for brevity and sanity

All of the above is spoken in complete ignorance. Point by point:

Filovirus.6258:

The total active players in pretty much all tiers have been more than halved, and in low tiers it’s because people moved to higher tiers

This is actually an argument against your own point. If the total active players in all tiers have been more than halved (an impossible number for you to back up anyway), then that means that the most populated servers (gold tiers) have lost far more people than the silver and bronze tiers. If the people from bronze who have left to go to higher tiers, then that shows that the active players are from the lower tiers. Where is the far greater number of players who are leaving high tier servers going when they go?

They’re just leaving.

So, you’re advocating that higher tiers offer a better experience than lower tiers, but it’s the higher tiers that have “more than half of their WvW population” leaving the game completely! Sounds like a terrible place to be.

Filovirus.6258:

Pretending to “love” being on a lower tier server

Yes, all of us in all of the “merge the lower tier servers into ____” threads that get started nearly constantly are just fooling ourselves, and attempting to fool others to stave off the hopelessness we have at being forced to play within our tier, totally unable to leave if want to… hang on. We are, in fact, able to leave. So why aren’t we?

Because we like it. And guess what? Lots of us have been in other leagues. Lots of us have more than one account so we know what goes on in silver and gold just fine. Lots of us have friends and former servermates that have moved on to other tiers so we hear from them how it is on their own servers.

It’s a pity that people who have left the upper tier servers can’t claim that last one themselves because, as you’ve said, they’re not moving downward. So they’re just leaving the game, despite apparently being in a better place than bronze.

And as for only playing WvW once in a while, during prime time, with a guild group… have a look at the scores of all the matchups once in a while. You’ll find that if you hide the server names you can’t tell from looking at the points what tier you’re looking at. You have the same totally balanced matches, and you have the same totally lopsided matches. And the ones in between. Seems like someone is ignorant of how things CURRENTLY are in bronze, frankly.

Filovirus.6258:

The whole “it’s only BvB LoL” is totally false, and it’s EXACTLY the same in Bronze too,

Mouth-foamingly self-contradictory. It’s totally false that high tier servers are only blob versus blob, but it is blob versus blob in the lower tier servers, if only they can scrape enough people together? XD

Filovirus.6258:

On opposite, in silver/gold, there is already enough people to cover the need for big
~snipped~ to flip towers too btw).

… the disappearance of solo roamers is because they don’t want to face 2/3 other roamers, but the (much better) 4/6 man teams is okay facing the aforementioned “big groups” (which totally aren’t blobs)? You’re living in a fantasy world, mate.

Filovirus.6258:

Everything you got in lower tiers is possible in better, snipped

Except that people aren’t leaving the game from the lower tiers, are they? No, they’re leaving from the higher tiers – you’ve said as much yourself. If an upper tier can fill a map, so 80 or so people, and they have lost (again, as you said) more than half of their people, that means with the same distribution of population they can now put 40 people on the same map. That’s a huge loss of people, and totally changes the gameplay for the server. But if a low tier server, against as you’ve said, puts 10 people on a map normally but loses half, that’s five people on the same map. You can do much the same kind of gameplay with that.

Except ours are still playing the game, just elsewhere. Yours are just leaving. Sounds like you’re saying that the upper tiers are a toxic stew of horribleness that drives people right out of the game. No thanks.

Except yours aren’t playing at all, since there is nobody left on those servers and they aren’t playing WvW, they are running around PvD’ing, most of them to be able to “brag” about being WvW’ers when they are doing things even easier than LS zerg farms from LS S1……
I don’t see how people can pretend doing “WvW” when the maps are empty (ie : less than 30 players on your side to cover all maps, roughly the same thing on other sides) 60+% of the time…..

Oh and you have no idea where i play btw (i tested low gold and top silver, but my main account isn’t on one of those servers at all), i’m just like most people to stay where i am, i stay with my guild and people i know from other guilds and so on (it’s pretty much, that and the price of transferts) the only reason(s) there is still people on low tiers.

You know, players could just collectively agree to merge themselves on servers.

I think currently there is enough population to probably max out kitten T3 (9 servers). By max out I mean have good coverage 24/7. Why doesn’t everyone who wants to be merged & and wants even competition just systematically merge themselves together?

Those that don’t want to merge, stay where you are in what’s probably going to be a dead zone. This could work out to your advantage if roaming and small group play is your thing without having to worry about blobs.

Highly doubt this would occur before Season 3, but if everyone wants an even and interesting match-ups, create a thread, keep tabs on where all the guilds are and their primary time slots and see where the coverage lacks and go from there. If done correctly, it probably could be hammered out in a couple weeks time.

Anet won’t merge the servers, because there is an entire PvE population to take into account.

The PvE population don’t matter anymore for servers, they don’t exist in PvE anymore with the MegaServers.

That’s the problem right there.
Anet removed the servers in PvE because there wasn’t enough people AT ALL to keep the servers alive (there was maybe 6/7 servers with enough population for that), it’s worse in WvW but they kept the servers there when they know there isn’t enough people to keep them alive.

Filovirus.6258:

The PvE population don’t matter anymore for servers, they don’t exist in PvE anymore with the MegaServers.

That’s the problem right there.
Anet removed the servers in PvE because there wasn’t enough people AT ALL to keep the servers alive (there was maybe 6/7 servers with enough population for that), it’s worse in WvW but they kept the servers there when they know there isn’t enough people to keep them alive.

Either way, then it should be even that much easier for players to collectively merge themselves on 9 or so servers

I’m on one of the lower population servers that has seen at least 6 large guilds leaves over the course of spring/summer. Wvw is nearly pointless if you’re not on during the server’s peak times, especially with no rewards for building siege, refreshing siege, or upgrading anything.

There’s also no way of contacting people on your server to join wvw without alerting ’enemy servers’ unless they are in your guild or on your FL.

I’m not a person who switches games often, but, at the current time, the game has become stale for me. Guesting on another server is pointless with the megaservers and the inability to wvw as a guest. I refuse to pay for a transfer unless I’m sure that the server I transfer to is what I am seeking in wvw.

I’d like to propose a couple fixes:

1. Give us the option for server chat(like say, guild, map, etc).

2. Consider closing down 3 servers and allow people on those servers to transfer freely for a few months among the servers which are to remain. The exception to this could be transfers to already full servers.

3. Make defense in wvw something worth pursuing, instead of having wvw a constant karma train. Also make siege last longer than an hour. When a server has few people on, it’s not long enough to be able to accomplish much if you have to head back to refresh your siege nearly constantly, and nobody wants to miss out on the karma and drops to do it.

Filovirus.6258:

Except yours aren’t playing at all, since there is nobody left on those servers and they aren’t playing WvW, they are running around PvD’ing, most of them to be able to “brag” about being WvW’ers when they are doing things even easier than LS zerg farms from LS S1……
I don’t see how people can pretend doing “WvW” when the maps are empty (ie : less than 30 players on your side to cover all maps, roughly the same thing on other sides) 60+% of the time…..

Oh and you have no idea where i play btw (i tested low gold and top silver, but my main account isn’t on one of those servers at all), i’m just like most people to stay where i am, i stay with my guild and people i know from other guilds and so on (it’s pretty much, that and the price of transferts) the only reason(s) there is still people on low tiers.

I don’t really care where you claim to play, frankly. Your credibility died when you essentially posted "ANet, despite what people on lower tier servers actually want, you should force them to do something because it would benefit (people in another area of the game). I don’t actually have any solid numbers to back up what I’m saying other than word of mouth and what I personally claim to have seen, in a game mode that numbers many thousands of people, but I’ve already decided how things are based on anecdotal ‘evidence’ regardless of what any of those people say to the contrary.’

No thanks. People can play where they want to play and if, in your own experience, the ones from low tiers transfer servers and keep playing and the ones in high tiers just leave the game, then it’s time to forcibly break up the high tier servers and save them from leaving the game. This of course comes from your own words.

Just have anet allow free transferts out of the bottom 6/9 servers and you’ll see how much people “love” playing on those servers….

They’ll be empty in a week.

Filovirus.6258:

Just have anet allow free transferts out of the bottom 6/9 servers and you’ll see how much people “love” playing on those servers….

They’ll be empty in a week.

Anet is fully aware; and the reason they don’t merge is people spend a lot of 1800 gems to transfer to a server with more than 500 players on it.

That is why they implemented megas, after all. They knew there was a population problem. Their approach was to do it in a manner that lets them make more money.

Since Anet rolled out the megasever, in PVE, severs don’t matter anymore, so why don’t they merge all servers into 3 servers for wvw. you could take a server from each tier and combine them. For example, JQ, SOS, CD, SBI, HOD, NSP, EB, and SOR (maybe look at the scores/numbers and determine merges that way); this would make one server. The only issue would be maps/ques, so maybe add more maps and make them bigger, then increase the cap.

This probably the best way to somewhat bring back wvw since it sounds like lower tiers don’t have much of a wvw community and can be fairly lopsided in scores. Also, could help against stacking for a while anyway, until someone decides to buy people, which will never end.

Anywho, this is just my thoughts on the subject.

Then we would end up with odd shifting red, green, blue battle groups, That being said new names are in order.

I think merging should be done but I also think for roamers being placed in a higher tier server wouldn’t be fun. So maybe if anet comes of with a map that gives roamers a place to roam merging all the lower tier servers is a great idea. also I agree with a lot of the post on here. I am in CD and we are tier 3. and only during prime time do you see blobs (not us) on the other servers mostly its zergs of 20 or so fighting and capping. and is pretty well rounded in terms or zerging and roaming we have a lot of both.

VIK.6205:

Just wondering if there is a possibility of combining servers for wvw, as most people/guilds tend to be attracted to T1 and T2 servers in NA like a fly to a light, and the season is making this more apparent, tapering the numbers in lower tiers.

hopefully by solving this i wont be the 94th person to quit the game since July 24th from my server.

Thank you.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

To be honest this is all just blowing smoke, cause Anet wont look at this post or any other like it. As this is a recurring problem since the game has released and they have yet to acknowledge it. Anet are probably all too busy getting drunk in Germany for w/e that stupid conference is they went to.

I don’t want servers to merge. If I wanted to take wvw the serious again and fight 100 man zergs I would go back to tier 1. But I don’t so I will stay in tier 7 where we still have plenty to enjoy wvw

Sometimes I think the problem with WvW is Anet’s fault, actually I thought that for a very long time….Then I see people still hung up on things like “server pride”, and I am reminded that the real problem with this game lies with it’s players.

YOU could make WvW or hell even certain servers a sandbox, but instead you want ANET to step in and force feed you some “balance”. They won’t do it, tbh this last year should be proof that if you want things to get better you will have to do it as a playerbase because ANET is basically done with wvw.

Filovirus.6258:

Except yours aren’t playing at all, since there is nobody left on those servers and they aren’t playing WvW, they are running around PvD’ing, most of them to be able to “brag” about being WvW’ers when they are doing things even easier than LS zerg farms from LS S1……

right, because there is an SoR blob in LS for me to bust. If you think bronze is all about PvD, you haven’t played a single day on FC.

Having played on every tier except 8, I could probably write a dissertation on the subject, but I’ll try to keep it short. There is a reason a lot of players have taken to having multiple accounts with one on T1-3, and another T6-8 or so. It’s an entirely different experience with pros and cons to both.

High tier advantages:

-More larger scale combat if that’s your thing.
-More players familiar with GWEN balls, again, if that’s your thing.
-More coverage in the off hours.
-Sometimes at least, a higher level of organization
-More opportunities to fight guilds in open world and GvG (increasingly the one undisputed advantage).

High tier disadvantages:

-Coverage disparities are exacerbated. Everything gets papered on a daily, sometimes hourly basis when you don’t have coverage.
-There’s more of a need to be playing ppt, which often means flipping a lot of paper stuff very quickly.
-Skill groups can’t zerg bust a 50 deep hammer blob all wearing PTV gear.
-Roamers and small groups tend to run very boring bunker builds and group compositions.

Low tier advantages

-Less emphasis on ppt around the clock.
-Most servers don’t have a major coverage advantage with EU / OXC / SEA.
-Waypointed keeps are harder take because it’s rare for anyone to have a 30+ group trying to flash grab.
-Offense tends to be more methodical when there are defenders, because a response group often isn’t coming.
-You get to know players more on an individual basis, even many enemies with frequent opponent servers.
-More a DIY experience if you like doing things yourself.
-More roamers and small groups that play high risk builds.

Low tier disadvantages:

-Frequently only 1 commander between all maps, if that.
-Organization is sometimes severely lacking, particularly when you need to defend without siege humping to victory.
-If you can’t handle yourself solo, you’re going to have a really awful experience.
-When a server does have a coverage advantage, they will sometimes paper a whole map, or even every map virtually opposed.
-Orange sword level battles are fewer and farther between if that’s what you’re after.

just merge the servers into 9 servers…then let the population sort itself….. now that Sept update allows for global guild, transferring should be easier for guilds who was hesitant to transfer due to upgrade rebuilding issues

zen.6091:

Having played on every tier except 8, I could probably write a dissertation on the subject, but I’ll try to keep it short. There is a reason a lot of players have taken to having multiple accounts with one on T1-3, and another T6-8 or so. It’s an entirely different experience with pros and cons to both.
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-Orange sword level battles are fewer and farther between if that’s what you’re after.

We must not play the same T7-9 game then….
It seldom happens than more than one servers have WP at all most of the week, and pretty much everything stays paper most of the day, coverage is what define pretty much everything (“coverage” can be a single 15 man guild, it’s enough for that), and there is such disparity between servers even not trying with pretty much no one to play you have servers 60+k ahead after the we (when it’s not 100+k on monday evening).

When that happens, it’s simple, you usually have a server with WPs…. in all keeps, theirs and ennemies, and the rest who are “happy” to tick at 100top most of he day.

“Roaming” is a fallacy, it’s a bunch of perma stealth thieves and PU mesmers doing 2/5 man groups flipping camps and ganging up on people half or less their numbers, or playing “hide and seek for 2h in keeps to recap them once the 10/15 ennemies that are online at that time are gone because they are bored”.

Don’t get me wrong, there is STILL great times and fights, but it’s really not the norm. It happens maybe 2/3h a day, not everyday, and it really easily becomes a farmfest one way or another, meaning it stops because people don’t want/like to be farmed.

Bronze (at least in EU) is FAR from the “roamer/small scale paradise” people pretends it is.

You want an exemple ? Take Bt/FoW/RoS mu (quite often happening since Bt died to season bandwagon). Bt and FoW are inexistant 90% of the time.
FoW’s idea of “fun” and “playing” is having 5/10 thieves/mesmers abusing stealth running around capping things, and hiding in keeps, running away as soon as people are there to fight them.

That and “blob” events a few times a week, that are “kitchen sinks groups”, made of everything their server can muster together (and they manage to bring a lot of people for that small a server it’s nice) that do……….. tadaaaa “surprise”, a mega blob for 2 or 3h.
Yep “small scale”.

Bt is still playing at weird times but is quite better (their time in silver and the guilds left on it leave them with quite a high level of organization), but most of the time it’s either blobbing around BOTM, or them still having 20/30 people at 2 am when nobody is left to fight them really.

“Roaming” in those tiers means : flipping camp without facing anybody for hours, running into a group once in a while and run away because you are a stealth thief/mesmer (or a group of those), and sometimes picking up on lonely people that don’t have at all a roaming/duelling build/prof/gear trying to reach his buddies.

It’s FAR from the roaming paradise people pretend it is, with great roam fights and such.
It’s just that people pretending that are really bad people that are just in for the one way kills with no resistance at all (hence why they flock to the stealth thieves/mesmer) against people that aren’t interested in them, and aren’t even trying that.

It’s the basic PK/Griefer mentality of every single PvP game : when you are bad and can’t cut it at PvP, move to a place where good people aren’t and prey on the ones not prepared/equipped/built for it, and then chest beat.

zen.6091:

Having played on every tier except 8, I could probably write a dissertation on the subject, but I’ll try to keep it short. There is a reason a lot of players have taken to having multiple accounts with one on T1-3, and another T6-8 or so. It’s an entirely different experience with pros and cons to both.

High tier advantages:

-More larger scale combat if that’s your thing.
-More players familiar with GWEN balls, again, if that’s your thing.
-More coverage in the off hours.
-Sometimes at least, a higher level of organization
-More opportunities to fight guilds in open world and GvG (increasingly the one undisputed advantage).

High tier disadvantages:

-Coverage disparities are exacerbated. Everything gets papered on a daily, sometimes hourly basis when you don’t have coverage.
-There’s more of a need to be playing ppt, which often means flipping a lot of paper stuff very quickly.
-Skill groups can’t zerg bust a 50 deep hammer blob all wearing PTV gear.
-Roamers and small groups tend to run very boring bunker builds and group compositions.

Low tier advantages

-Less emphasis on ppt around the clock.
-Most servers don’t have a major coverage advantage with EU / OXC / SEA.
-Waypointed keeps are harder take because it’s rare for anyone to have a 30+ group trying to flash grab.
-Offense tends to be more methodical when there are defenders, because a response group often isn’t coming.
-You get to know players more on an individual basis, even many enemies with frequent opponent servers.
-More a DIY experience if you like doing things yourself.
-More roamers and small groups that play high risk builds.

Low tier disadvantages:

-Frequently only 1 commander between all maps, if that.
-Organization is sometimes severely lacking, particularly when you need to defend without siege humping to victory.
-If you can’t handle yourself solo, you’re going to have a really awful experience.
-When a server does have a coverage advantage, they will sometimes paper a whole map, or even every map virtually opposed.
-Orange sword level battles are fewer and farther between if that’s what you’re after.

holy dam, you got the tiers all backwards. o.O