Guild Wars 2

http://www.guildmag.com/command-tag-gamescom-2014/

Looks like you have to buy colors individually. If you already have a tag, you don’t need to buy blue again.

+1 for rainbow

Arcadio.6875:

Anet just posted in the reddit thread for this. You will only be reimbursed if you have 4 tags or more.

Which make sense given that the price will be now 300g (3 tags on the actual price). You will be refunded for any tag you bought above that value…

buy colored tags…..wow, that is just rude and makes no sense, so this idea has to be a joke.

Arcadio.6875:

http://www.guildmag.com/command-tag-gamescom-2014/

Looks like you have to buy colors individually. If you already have a tag, you don’t need to buy blue again.

This means 900 to 1200 gold for full flexibility if you have already the blue tag!

Guilds and players have enough Gold to buy multiple tags already as it is; so you can use that gold to buy a different coloured tag I guess.

Jeknar.6184:

Arcadio.6875:

Anet just posted in the reddit thread for this. You will only be reimbursed if you have 4 tags or more.

Which make sense given that the price will be now 300g (3 tags on the actual price). You will be refunded for any tag you bought above that value…

If that is the case a lot of players including my self will be kittened off as this is a new system all tags bought from the new system is 300 so each tag after the 1st one should be worth 300 regardless. Am I asking for 300 gold for each tag after my 1st one..No I want my 100 gold back and If anet wants to kitten its player base well they will be in for a shock. As far as I am concerned gold has inflated so when I bought my 18 tags they was 100gold now that inflation has set in that 100 gold is 300gold they are not keeping 200gold that should be rightfully mine 100gold for 1st tag and 100g for the other 2

Can we really assume that the new colored tags are specifically designed for WvW, instead of being added for PvE? I mean, it’s important to keep the PuGs for The Wurm following the correct tag, never mind ensuring no one other than select players can see their leader for Guild Missions.

Zepher.7803:

buy colored tags…..wow, that is just rude and makes no sense, so this idea has to be a joke.

Big mistake on their part. Given how they’ve soured their relationship with the WvW community, the better option would have been to allow us to choose what color we want when we want without having to pay extra gold for it. A fence mending gesture, if you will.

Then they should add the ability to change the icon used for the tag. Make that the means of monetizing the tags by putting it on the gem store (“This week only in the gem store: 20% off the pink Quaggan commander tag icon! Get YOUR’s today!!!”).

If they were a little more creative with their monetization schemes, they wouldn’t have to resort to nickle-and-diming us for the commander tags. Instead, give a freebie, generate good will, then add in a gem store purchase tied to the freebie and watch as players flock to buy it. It’s not a pay-to-win; it’s purely cosmetic.

Zepher.7803:

buy colored tags…..wow, that is just rude and makes no sense, so this idea has to be a joke.

What?!
This would be completely ridiculous.

goldenwing.8473:

Can we really assume that the new colored tags are specifically designed for WvW, instead of being added for PvE? I mean, it’s important to keep the PuGs for The Wurm following the correct tag, never mind ensuring no one other than select players can see their leader for Guild Missions.

I’m just going to be blunt.

This is the WvW forum I don’t give two kittens about anything to do with PvE.

ANet: Always finding a controversial way to give the players what they asked for in a way that neither satisfies or solves a problem.

So the question becomes:

Do we buy Commander Compendiums now while they’re still 100g, then sit on them and wait until after the Sept. 9 Feature Patch in the hope that we can then choose what color to make our tag when we activate the Commander Compendium?

OR

Will the colored tags come from a new Commander Compendium item specifically tied to each color? Current Commander Compendiums will not be grandfathered in to allow one to choose a new tag color.

Are we seriously getting charged for a functionality improvement?

Different colors weren’t requested for cosmetic reasons, these aren’t like quaggan backpacks.

Fudge.9527:

Are we seriously getting charged for a functionality improvement?

Different colors weren’t requested for cosmetic reasons, these aren’t like quaggan backpacks.

looks like it
so 1500g to unlock all 5 colors

Haha of course anything that would help WvW would somehow come with a chance for them to screw the WvW community a little more. GG Anet

goldenwing.8473:

Can we really assume that the new colored tags are specifically designed for WvW, instead of being added for PvE? I mean, it’s important to keep the PuGs for The Wurm following the correct tag, never mind ensuring no one other than select players can see their leader for Guild Missions.

Specifically designed for WvW or not, ArenaNet can create an opportunity out of it if they’re willing. It’s about thinking outside the box and saying,

“Hey, things have gotten pretty bad with the WvW community. How about we scrap the idea of increasing the commander tag cost to 300g as well as having to purchase a separate compendium for each color. Instead, let’s just allow players to change the color at will with a single purchase. Then we add gem store items that allow you to change the icon’s appearance and profit from it that way.”

Tags were originally conceived as an aid to WvW. It’s great that players were creative enough to leverage their use in PvE, too. But having been initially tied to WvW and the WvW community requesting this addition since beta, it’s now something of a slap in the face to both increase the cost 300% and require a new purchase for each additional color.

Leave it to ArenaNet to take a good idea and then mess it up. Word comes out that colored tags are finally going to be added to the game and it looks like they’re taking 2 steps forward. Then they go and milk it for more gold and they take 2 steps back again. Of course, they’ll take the tact of, “Hey, we gave you what you asked for: colored commander tags. What more do you want, you ingrates?!?” Clueless.

/shakes head

Colored commander tags are a QoL improvement. Kind of baffling why we’ll have to pay for new colors. I play WvW where the rewards are kitteny and the siege is pricy. I don’t grind for gold in PvE. Maybe, just maybe rewards are being boosted in WvW along with this.

im not sure anet realizes there is no way to be wvw commander and have 300g…

Lol they should at least have the commander compendiums be included in rank chests. At least give us WvWers hope of getting more than the stock color.

are the commander tags bought after the patch also blue? do we choose the colors or we need to unlock them in specific order?

if people can choose the color after the patch, for their 1st tag, why cant the rest of us that already have the tag.

i didnt want the blue tag, it was only one available. let us reset the blue tag and choose any other available color.

Lol then they’ll say 300g please. As it is I just want my gold back for the 2 I bought. Give me a guild commander icon for 50g and some merits or something.

so if i already have a tag, it’ll give all my toons a tag? or will i have to rebuy? wish they made that part just a wee bit clearer

JusticarArkiel.1564:

so if i already have a tag, it’ll give all my toons a tag? or will i have to rebuy? wish they made that part just a wee bit clearer

Aparently if you have 1-3 tags, all your characters will now have a blue tag.

Also, If you have 4 or more tags, you’ll get back 100g per tag above 3.

Jeknar.6184:

JusticarArkiel.1564:

so if i already have a tag, it’ll give all my toons a tag? or will i have to rebuy? wish they made that part just a wee bit clearer

Aparently if you have 1-3 tags, all your characters will now have a blue tag.

Also, If you have 4 or more tags, you’ll get back 100g per tag above 3.

whew, so those of us who only got one tag aren’t gonna get completly screwed over

Fudge.9527:

Are we seriously getting charged for a functionality improvement?

Different colors weren’t requested for cosmetic reasons, these aren’t like quaggan backpacks.

Yep. Hey, it’s “Aren’t-charging-enough-Yet” we’re talking about here.

goldenwing.8473:

Can we really assume that the new colored tags are specifically designed for WvW, instead of being added for PvE? I mean, it’s important to keep the PuGs for The Wurm following the correct tag, never mind ensuring no one other than select players can see their leader for Guild Missions.

Specifically designed for WvW or not, ArenaNet can create an opportunity out of it if they’re willing. It’s about thinking outside the box and saying,

“Hey, things have gotten pretty bad with the WvW community. How about we scrap the idea of increasing the commander tag cost to 300g as well as having to purchase a separate compendium for each color. Instead, let’s just allow players to change the color at will with a single purchase. Then we add gem store items that allow you to change the icon’s appearance and profit from it that way.”

Tags were originally conceived as an aid to WvW. It’s great that players were creative enough to leverage their use in PvE, too. But having been initially tied to WvW and the WvW community requesting this addition since beta, it’s now something of a slap in the face to both increase the cost 300% and require a new purchase for each additional color.

Leave it to ArenaNet to take a good idea and then mess it up. Word comes out that colored tags are finally going to be added to the game and it looks like they’re taking 2 steps forward. Then they go and milk it for more gold and they take 2 steps back again. Of course, they’ll take the tact of, “Hey, we gave you what you asked for: colored commander tags. What more do you want, you ingrates?!?” Clueless.

/shakes head

I read “soon”, and was truly astonished it actually ment soon! Also, I’ve never owned more than a bit over a 100 gold with 3 lvl 80s, but I’m completely fine with the commander tag costing 300 gold.

@Nutz and Kraag Deadsoul: was just trying to point out that even though WvW players believe tags are for WvW, we cannot assume that the changes are related to WvW, since PvE also benefits. Given the cost structure of the changes, do you really think these were aimed specifically at WvW? I’m not putting this one in the WvW bucket just yet (given currently stated implementation.)

So the proposed price for the account bound commander tag is 300g and each color after that is another 300g. Which means to have all the colors you need 1500g. To me this is a bit excessive. If we really want to encourage multi-colored multi-commander WvW then it should be more of an upgrade system.

300g for the initial tag is fine.

Then have additional colors for 50g each.

or for us WvWers have the initial tag at 300g (standard light blue) and have the additional colors (even if WvW limited) at 50g + 2000 Badges or Honor.

This would at least create two things. One would be to allow commanders to have enough color variety so as not to overlap with the only available colors among the commanders on the map. ie. 2 commanders on the map one standard blue the other red and you only have blue and red because of the price. What do you use? The other thing is it requires new commanders to not only pay the price but to be experienced enough in WvW to be able to buy the different tags. New commanders with too little experience ruins the fun for everyone.

I hope ANET takes this into consideration when pricing the new tags instead of just slapping a huge cost on it. WvW players are strapped for cash as it is with trying to get full ascended and legendary-ed. I really don’t want to see more "pay-to-win" commanders creating poor gaming environments for everyone. I want to see good experienced commanders doing what they do best.

I love the idea of multi-colored tags for havocs and split zergs for more advanced fighting but please don’t let the price kill the fun.

Every color 300g.
Really?
REALLY?
How can one screw up something so simple as colored commander tags?
I feel so confirmed that I quit this developer’s product a couple months ago.

Jamais vu.5284:

Every color 300g.
Really?
REALLY?
How can one screw up something so simple as colored commander tags?
I feel so confirmed that I quit this developer’s product a couple months ago.

They didn’t screw it up… gem sales will probably go up with this change. They can even have limited time color choices available as time goes on.

Aw man if this weren’t so sad, it’d be comical.

PetricaKerempuh.7958:

im not sure anet realizes there is no way to be wvw commander and have 300g…

I’d be willing to bet they don’t care about WvW commanders. The new colors are for the PvE commanders to stand around in LA with showing off their new purchase.

And yes, goldenwing , I agree this one does not go into the WvW column if its true you need to buy the colors on the gem store.

If all ANET does to the commander system is implement colored tags, I’d be shocked. I seriously wonder what the team does all day. There has to be much more to it than that.

BLUETACO4LYFE!111!!!!1

Only place we will all still see blue doritos will be WvW lol

They should make all of the colors cost badges of honor 5,000 each plus be over a certain rank.

I can understand raising the price of a tag to 300 gold if that unlocks it for the entire account. This is fine.

But to charge another 300 gold for a different color!? This is outrageous. The point of different color tags is to facilitate the splitting of zergs and objectives in WvW and PvE coordinated events (Teq,Wurm) without confusion. Divide and conquer. “Follow blue tag for main zerg, red tag is havoc, etc.”

By gating the system behind 300g per color, the vast majority of people will stay blue, thus defeating the whole point of implementing the change. The color of commander tag shouldn’t be a vanity issue. “Oh, I like purple, so I will only command in purple.” It should be purposeful and useful. This cannot happen if no one is able (or willing) to spend extra money for a different color.

This is a pretty poor decision and really makes me question if ArenaNet understands why we want colors for tags in the first place. It’s not a vanity thing. It’s so that we can easily coordinate multiple groups on the same map.

This is a baffling decision and I urge ArenaNet to reconsider.

This is ridiculous. Since when are we not earning the right to be a “commander”? How about the blue tag is earned by purchasing it for 100gold, (for the Pvers) the purple tag is earned by reaching rank 80 in SPvP, and the other colors are scaled according to WvW rank. For example, red at rank 500, orange at rank 1,000, yellow at rank 1,500, etc.

The cash grab is strong.

This is beyond wrong. Are the people at Anet aware of the fact that there are tons of really dedicated WvW players and commanders who are not sitting on gazillions of gold, they spend money on WvW upgrades, Bufffood, Siege Weaponry etc. and play a (financially) very unrewarding part of the game just because they like it. I have to say, this, again, shows the complete misconception and lack of understanding concerning WvW issues.

Someone should pass on the memo to Anet that it’s badges of honor people have an abundance of.. not gold (especially to WvW players).

I can understand the 300G to unlock an account bound tag, but once it’s unlocked, the option should open up for commanders to use our “next to useless badges of honor” for additional colors

kittenerKoenig.7895:

This is beyond wrong. Are the people at Anet aware of the fact that there are tons of really dedicated WvW players and commanders who are not sitting on gazillions of gold, they spend money on WvW upgrades, Bufffood, Siege Weaponry etc. and play a (financially) very unrewarding part of the game just because they like it. I have to say, this, again, shows the complete misconception and lack of understanding concerning WvW issues.

As much as I hate dissing the devs, I agree 100%. If this really was their brilliant plan, I’m just hoping they give it a lot more consideration.

MightyMicah.7451:

kittenerKoenig.7895:

This is beyond wrong. Are the people at Anet aware of the fact that there are tons of really dedicated WvW players and commanders who are not sitting on gazillions of gold, they spend money on WvW upgrades, Bufffood, Siege Weaponry etc. and play a (financially) very unrewarding part of the game just because they like it. I have to say, this, again, shows the complete misconception and lack of understanding concerning WvW issues.

As much I hate dissing the devs, I agree 100%. If this really was their brilliant plan, I’m just hoping they give it a lot more consideration.

I agree, they should really reconsider and soon. They have a few weeks to hopefully realize how stupid this is and change it to something more reasonable (hopefully free color changing).

Otherwise, I see them eventually changing their minds a few months down the road after copious amount of complaints from the playerbase and then having to sort though all of the refunds for people that went ahead and bought it.

Save yourself the headache ArenaNet; make colored commander tags unlock for free.

I usually agree with anet’s decisions.

This time, I do not. I understand it might be obnoxious to have so many colors on one screen, but gating that decision with a gold cost is -not- a solution. In fact, what’s the point of multiple colors for coordination if you can’t set it on the fly?

The funny thing about this is, it’s been requested by everyone to make co-ordination easier in various game modes but this decision then requires a lot of co-ordination before purchases are made to be of any use at all.

It’s pretty clear this was a money grab idea and not providing a solution to a problem players are having which really doesn’t reflect well on Anet because the decision really highlights they don’t see players but see $$$

Information about new commander icon gather this
http://www.guildmag.com/command-tag-gamescom-2014/

New stuff, Great! Commander icon cost more sure ok, 300G is not bad, paying 300 gold for each color? Why Anet? Why Anet?

Pls come here and explain to us what is the tought process for this design decision?

Will give you feedback, i’ll do my best to get as many people as possibile to protest to this clearly wrong design decision.

Make the other color Free, don’t make us rage even harder, after months of 0 communication!

Feedback from reddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2dkh3h/guildmag_talking_to_a_dev_regarding_commander/

Feedback from Gw2wvw
http://www.gw2wvw.net/topic/color-commander-icon-need-people-post-feedback#new
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Title: Color Commander icon Thread

Color Commander Icon, Need people to post Feedback
I posted a thread on the official forum about the news commander icon system, we need those color free, is important we share our feedback, more feedback the better it is.
As right now the new color cost 300gold each, more info in the link, pls Post and Share
bit.ly/YbGDrg

This is the mail i sent to some of the WvW commander of EU, keep sharing

Okay Anet, you can charge me 300 gold per tag… if you make WvW actually profitable enough to afford that.

If you cannot afford it yourself, then perhaps friends or guildmates of yours can chip in. That was how the first players obtained their tags in the early days of the game.

This is a bad, bad way to implement the new colours.

Here is hoping they backpedal on this otherwise it is going to cause quite a bit of bad blood between ANet and the WvW playerbase. We should be looking forward to these features, not getting disappointed and shafted when they come out.

Come on ANet, sharpen up!