Guild Wars 2

I myself am not a commander but it would definitely help out those in WvWvW if the ones giving out commands and such in map or team chat would have a symbol or something that lets everyone know that it is a commander giving out commands instead of some random person. Having their name change color or something special to let everyone know its the commander in the chat would really help.Not necessary but would be helpful to those following orders.

The problem is the commander might actually just be a random person… or worse… but not to say this isn’t a good idea. The thing is they have to first fix how a commander rank can be obtained.

Just check the commanders in the map… I hardly see more than 3, so it’s easy to know who it is.

Personally not enough commanders use the squad chat. Something i try to enforce regularly when there is more then one commander on the map. that helps a little. Otherwise i take the same approach a fellow commander does, only use caps XD

I really like this idea, and it’s something I’ve wanted for a long time as a commander.

Sakurai Koji.6947:

Personally not enough commanders use the squad chat. Something i try to enforce regularly when there is more then one commander on the map. that helps a little. Otherwise i take the same approach a fellow commander does, only use caps XD

The problem with squad chat is two-fold. A, there’s no way to force everyone around you to join your squad, so some players may be missing out on important commands. B, people don’t often join squads to begin with.

The good:

-This is a good idea for helping out commanders with letting themselves be known, sometimes people talk about really irrelevant stuff in team chat and it just gets drowned out. Some people don’t even seem to look at chat.

The bad:

-this will only help horrible commanders be more horrible.

/Signed, even a tiny blue icon next to the commanders name in chat would help immensely.

if people join your squad they can no longer see other commanders on the map, I guess it was done with good intention

Kiexcolo.2416:

The problem is the commander might actually just be a random person… or worse… but not to say this isn’t a good idea. The thing is they have to first fix how a commander rank can be obtained.

Exactly right. Until they fix how commander tags are obtained all this is for nothing. Being a commander does not inherently make anyone better at wvw, nor does it make what they say in map chat any more important.

Tekyn.5376:

Kiexcolo.2416:

The problem is the commander might actually just be a random person… or worse… but not to say this isn’t a good idea. The thing is they have to first fix how a commander rank can be obtained.

Exactly right. Until they fix how commander tags are obtained all this is for nothing. Being a commander does not inherently make anyone better at wvw, nor does it make what they say in map chat any more important.

This. And let it be further noted that I am a commander, and little of what I say is important, and there are plenty of people better at WvWvW than I am. But I seem to be in the minority that realizes this. Still, I seldom talk. Or command. I just had 100g to spend on a blue hat to prove a point that most commanders are kittenes. You’re welcome, good commanders.

Sakurai Koji.6947:

Personally not enough commanders use the squad chat. Something i try to enforce regularly when there is more then one commander on the map. that helps a little. Otherwise i take the same approach a fellow commander does, only use caps XD

Because Commander CAN NOT view members of his squad, because squad members CAN NOT see themselves on map.Squad just do nothing more than You are unable to see other commanders.
I hope in February update they improve funcionality of squad. Now it is just useless.

Writetyper.1985:

The bad:

-this will only help horrible commanders be more horrible.

If you find a commander to not be all that good at commanding, why not try and help him? I see a lot of people yelling and bagging commanders, i myself used to cop a lot of it till the mass exodus of IoJ, rather than actually talking to them, trying to help them out. Or better yet, stop whining about the bad commander, and stop following him.

I find this is a great idea, it would be a lot easier to control your guys if your commands out in chat a lot more, people will be more inclined to read it! I hope they buff the commander tag with somehow in the next patch.

Commander tags need alot more changes:
-only active when atleast 5 more people have joined the squad and are near the commander.. (seeing 8 commander tags.. with only 2 or 3 having people following them is bad)
-option so you cant see commander tags of people you have set on an ignore list (bad commanders)
-option for commanders to hide your tag except to squad members and selected other commanders
- option for commanders to make your squad invisible for allies (so not the enemy) that arent in your squad (on our server we have lots of guild groups and commander groups with smaller guild groups and none guildies running together.. as soon a commander passes one of the guild groups most start following the guild group leaving the commander with only a few people.. most guild groups dont mind the followers especialy when they join their TS, but they dont like running in big blobs.. or having ally commanders loosing their people… Having more small groups(20-30) > then a few large blups)

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

Writetyper.1985:

The bad:

-this will only help horrible commanders be more horrible.

If you find a commander to not be all that good at commanding, why not try and help him? I see a lot of people yelling and bagging commanders, i myself used to cop a lot of it till the mass exodus of IoJ, rather than actually talking to them, trying to help them out. Or better yet, stop whining about the bad commander, and stop following him.

People only care about their own noses… Why help someone if they can just throw rocks at him and find a replacement?

I’ve been thinking about getting the Commander Compendium to try rally people to do efforts on the maps where we are outmanned (I’ve tried without it, but like i usually say, people only listen to the Blue Dorito Man), but then I think people will problably just think i’m some baddie (since i’m not of one of the “Big WvWvW guilds”) and ignore me even more…

I wish there was another way to obtain commander. Any one with 100g can get it, they don’t even have to understand the basics of wvw. There are some amazing commanders and then those that make you want to bang your face on your keyboard. If tags were somehow obtainable by experience then we would see a lot more veteran players that should have the tag. Some of those hardcore wvw’ers don’t have 100g to buy a blue Dorito tag, they are too busy paying for siege and upgrades.

Commanders sometimes need to speak out of their own squad. It’s all about co-ordinating when needed.

Having an icon could help when speaking in /map or /team.

But as mentioned: it never takes long before you know the names anyhow…

Unless its a well known commander playing their new alt :P

loopi.7913:

Unless its a well known commander playing their new alt :P

of all things, commander badges should be account bound…
A good commander is a player, not a certain profession or race, not the character.

A bad commander is bad no matter what character he’s on, wouldn’t help there, nor make it worse.

But that’s another change of course, for the moment we’re stuck with character bound commander tags.

I agree 100%. Commander tags should be account bound!

Seren.6850:

if people join your squad they can no longer see other commanders on the map, I guess it was done with good intention

This is a big problem, they could have just had ‘your’ commander have his Icon changed to a special color or something.

It’s helpful for every player to know where all the commanders are on the map, where battles are taking place, where they might temporarily head to if lost or separated, where to avoid, etc, just general battlefield awareness, it really restricts it.

Pendragon.8735:

Seren.6850:

if people join your squad they can no longer see other commanders on the map, I guess it was done with good intention

This is a big problem, they could have just had ‘your’ commander have his Icon changed to a special color or something.

It’s helpful for every player to know where all the commanders are on the map, where battles are taking place, where they might temporarily head to if lost or separated, where to avoid, etc, just general battlefield awareness, it really restricts it.

your commander can still see the other commanders.
So mostly it forces your commander to pay attention to that as well, instead of having another one in the group follow the commander movements on the map.

I like the idea of the squad, but I totally agree it would be simpler to just give your squadcommander a different color tag while still seeing the others.
If your squad commander has a yellow tag for example, you would never ever mistake a different blue commander tag for your own squad, not even in the heat of the battle.

loopi.7913:

I wish there was another way to obtain commander. Any one with 100g can get it, they don’t even have to understand the basics of wvw. There are some amazing commanders and then those that make you want to bang your face on your keyboard. If tags were somehow obtainable by experience then we would see a lot more veteran players that should have the tag. Some of those hardcore wvw’ers don’t have 100g to buy a blue Dorito tag, they are too busy paying for siege and upgrades.

I gave a suggestion in another thread about how to get the commander tag.

We have a score/exp system based on what we do in WvW. Our kills, how much we build/repair/upgrade, how much objectives we help capture, how much we help heal,rez other players.

So once we reach a certain exp level, we can choose to be a specialist. Like the siege specialist gets bonuses for using siege, the supply specialist can carry more supplies and movement buff and whatever other specialist. And the commander specialist get defense buff and their blue hat. The bonuses can increase with rank. Specialist can only be chosen once and only changed like by spending 10G.

While this may not ensure talented leaders are commanders, it can at least ensure that the commanders have had experience in WvW and really have a desire to lead since since other specialist types are better off for the average player.

Dutchares.6084:

-option for commanders to hide your tag except to squad members and selected other commanders

- option for commanders to make your squad invisible for allies (so not the enemy) that arent in your squad (on our server we have lots of guild groups and commander groups with smaller guild groups)

My biggest complaint with commander and squad system… the lack of flexibility for guild or custom squads. Often guilds just want to coordinate when running together… and the commander and squad is the ONLY way in game if you have over 5 people. They don’t want to lead the whole zone, and they don’t want to interfere with the commanders that are leading.

Having a /private or /guild only option for the commander pin solves these problems. Only the people in the squad can see the commander pin, and it will reduce unnecessary pins on the map.

Jeknar.6184:

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

Writetyper.1985:

The bad:

-this will only help horrible commanders be more horrible.

If you find a commander to not be all that good at commanding, why not try and help him? I see a lot of people yelling and bagging commanders, i myself used to cop a lot of it till the mass exodus of IoJ, rather than actually talking to them, trying to help them out. Or better yet, stop whining about the bad commander, and stop following him.

People only care about their own noses… Why help someone if they can just throw rocks at him and find a replacement?

I’ve been thinking about getting the Commander Compendium to try rally people to do efforts on the maps where we are outmanned (I’ve tried without it, but like i usually say, people only listen to the Blue Dorito Man), but then I think people will problably just think i’m some baddie (since i’m not of one of the “Big WvWvW guilds”) and ignore me even more…

I felt like that when IoJ was high tier 2 tier 1 late last year, my guild being very small in WvW, and me being a fairly new commander i would only chuck the tag up when my guild was in there fighting, otherwise i would constantly cop kitten from other players, saying how bad of a commander i am…(Mind you a lot of the commanders then were very new, there is no way they could be good) But since this mass exodus of our server, all those people have gone, there is no more bagging of commanders, i have actually been receiving compliments from the players that stayed behind.

The commander tag NEEDS to become account bound, being one of the few commanders behind, i feel the need to always have my tag up when in WvW, leaving me no time to run around on my alts (I find WvW the funnest way to level) I hope this is one of the things they add to the commander tag.