Guild Wars 2

Is anyone worried with the massive fall of a former T1 server that T1 and T2 will effectively be isolated from the other tiers?

Because SOR had a massive amount of glicko points and they are shedding them so fast, T2 is effectively getting a huge glicko point boost. While I think that is a welcome thing for alleviating the problem with the T1 – T2 point gap, it has now widened the other end. I’m concerned that up-and-coming servers like Dragonbrand will be effectively locked out of moving any higher than T3 unless another fall-out occurs.

TL:DR – I’m concerned that the T2 – T3 gap will become like the T7 -T8 gap of no return from awhile back (bad enough that Anet had to artificially inflate the glicko scores).

Gatharin.2674:

Is anyone worried with the massive fall of a former T1 server that T1 and T2 will effectively be isolated from the other tiers?

Because SOR had a massive amount of glicko points and they are shedding them so fast, T2 is effectively getting a huge glicko point boost. While I think that is a welcome thing for alleviating the problem with the kitten point gap, it has now widened the other end. I’m concerned that up-and-coming servers like Dragonbrand will be effectively locked out of moving any higher than T3 unless another fall-out occurs.

TL:DR – I’m concerned that the T2 – T3 gap will become like the T7 -T8 gap of no return from awhile back (bad enough that Anet had to artificially inflate the glicko scores).

It shouldn’t end up being that big of a problem. You had servers like KN plummet. It does shake things up in the short term, however, if servers like DB keep doing well it won’t lock them out at all. It might mean it takes them a couple more weeks to get firmly into T3, but they definitely won’t be locked out. If you look even now, the ratings between kitten are actually fairly well behaved (in that there aren’t multiple hundred jumps between servers.

As it is now, DB for instance will move up 1 rank, and then will have to do well for a few matches to move up again. The reason Maguuma is getting so many ranking points is because they’re technically T3, and they’re stomping a R3 team. However, as SoR drops, the gain from beating them will drop pretty fast as well. In general you lose points faster than you gain. So in the end, my guess is long term things will balance back out as they always do when a T1 server implodes.

What you say is true but only if the drop is gradual. I’m not so sure the problem would fix itself if SOR stays in T2 for one/two more weeks. In such a situation, it is likely that SOR would have most of its points (above what a server like DB has) taken. Thus, T2 servers SOS, FA, and Mag would have their scores heavily inflated while leaving DB and other T3 servers with no points to accordingly inflate their scores to keep the gap manageable. Right now the gap between DB and the lowest T2 projected rank is about 120. I think that is already flirting with insurmountable (without absurd dice roll luck). Give it another week or two and that, I would project, is only going to grow.

Gatharin.2674:

What you say is true but only if the drop is gradual. I’m not so sure the problem would fix itself if SOR stays in T2 for one/two more weeks. In such a situation, it is likely that SOR would have most of its points (above what a server like DB has) taken. Thus, T2 servers SOS, FA, and Mag would have their scores heavily inflated while leaving DB and other T3 servers with no points to accordingly inflate their scores to keep the gap manageable. Right now the gap between DB and the lowest T2 projected rank is about 120. I think that is already flirting with insurmountable (without absurd dice roll luck). Give it another week or two and that, I would project, is only going to grow.

If you look at the current projected rankings you’ll have:
SoR 1889
FA 1884
Mag 1868

From those ratings, if SoR loses again, the point gain by FA and Mag won’t be as big as this week. Glicko will see 3 servers with near-even ratings and will treat them as such. So, even if its a gradual decline, given that SoR has already lost most of their rating from T1 it should still be fine.

glicko is irrelevant. The reality is that 4-6 will soon be FA, baguuma, and SoS. 7 will likely end up SoR. 8-9 can’t compete with 4-7 right now. Look what SoS is doing in T3.

SoR will continue its plummet, because the handful of good and dedicated WvW guilds left can no longer carry the server when 80% of the potential WvW population is training EOTM 24×7.

It’s bad enough that unaffiliated randoms just default to EOTM because our color is usually running the map and the rewards per hour are better. Lately though I am hearing stuff like commanders in server comms saying “Well this sux, you guys want to just head over to EOTM and see what we can do instead?”

The more this goes on, the more good WvW players will migrate to servers that act like they give a crap about the map instead of just zerg farming bags and karma or hiding in EOTM to not get blob rolled all day.

So no worries. Those T3 and lower tier servers can look forward to picking up their fair share of those “excess” points as well.