Condi/boon duration worth it?

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Posted by: Roscoe.9803

Roscoe.9803

Is duration (condi or boon) worth investing in for wvw.

I know condi can be worthwhile in PVE as mobs rarely cleanse although more damage in a shorter timeframe is often better. My limited experience tells me that the prevalence of cleanses in wvw leads me to beleive that higher initial condi damage is better as most long duration conditions will be cleansed before having full impact whilst shorter burstier condis may actually have some effect.

Boon duration is also useful in PVE but probably suffers similarly in wvw as the amount of strip and corruption would result in most boons seeing only a fraction of their potential uptime.

It may well depend on the actual length of initial boon or condi with regard to average time of removal. eg Anything that lasts for short duration might possibly benefit from duration extension whereas most long duration effects would probably be dealt with before the normal duration has even expired let alone any extended duration. Also relevant would be ability to avoid the removal hit, ie access to blocks, invulns and stealth with improve chances of boons staying for full uptime.

Comments and discussion where duration may be useful or detrimental (ie classes, builds, roles, etc).

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Posted by: roamzero.9486

roamzero.9486

Boon duration is ridiculous when put on the right class. It’s the cornerstone on those broken boon spamming Mesmers, some is good on Scrappers and certain Ele builds. You can get 100% protection uptime on Druids and 100% resistance uptime on Warrior if you want to push things that far.

Condi duration depends on the class. Some condi builds can get by with just food, some benefit a lot from taking some Trailblazer to get 100% on certain conditions (bleed on Thief or confusion on Mesmer).

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Posted by: Xenesis.6389

Xenesis.6389

Depends on what you’re running in and in what type of setting.

Obviously zergs have a much easier time clearing conditions, while roamers will take the chances not to run much condition clears, and there isn’t even an equal balance to classes that can condition clear, smart players will also rely on weapon swaps to help with clearing though.

So duration might be useful for roaming fights, less effective as you engage bigger groups. Condition bombing is more effective in wvw than pve, so you don’t necessarily need that much duration stacking either because of that. Getting as much condition damage as possible is generally better.

For boons, there’s a lot of boons that can be handed out with guardians and elementalist, but really only a few classes to strip or corrupt them them, mainly from necromancers. So boon duration is still decent to have I think.

Also be aware that more defensive stats are needed for wvw, while in pve not so much, duration stats is one of those that’s sacrificed for it.

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Posted by: RodOfDeath.5247

RodOfDeath.5247

Basically what others have said. I’ve come across classes when roaming who have multiple boons up at once and seemed to be machines with their HP never dropping below 90% spamming minor conditions and just wear you down.

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Posted by: Blackarps.1974

Blackarps.1974

Condi duration is more for PvE so that you can stack more conditions to deal more damage overall. Instead of maybe 10 stacks of bleed, you can now stack say 20. This is ideal for raids because the bosses live longer and you need more sustained DPS. In WvW though, the amount of condi clear means you should still take something like Dire gear because you want the most amount of damage in a short amount of time.

As far as boon duration, its a huge thing for frontline meta right now. You can keep over half the boons on you at all times if you’re a guardian which makes you incredibly tanky on top of your other gear and traits.

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Posted by: TheHeretic.3529

TheHeretic.3529

Boon Duration is unbelievably valuable

Condi duration is nice, but youre better off investing in condi damage instead.

source: 95% boon duration guardian, and Dire berserker

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Posted by: Straegen.2938

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Boon Duration is crazy powerful in WvW in many cases.

Condi Duration is a big depends. Against some builds, it will annihilate them. On others it is a completely wasted stat. Condi applicaiton particularly varied types of condi is the most important. If you can bump condi duration without adversely effecting that, it is worth investing in.

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Posted by: heydurian.6459

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Boon Duration is crazy powerful in WvW in many cases.

Condi Duration is a big depends. Against some builds, it will annihilate them. On others it is a completely wasted stat. Condi applicaiton particularly varied types of condi is the most important. If you can bump condi duration without adversely effecting that, it is worth investing in.

pls tell us how to fix this problem..delete boon? ban all the people when they using boon in wvw? the problem not in the boon time. the problem in the boon.
i think it have 2 ways to fix it
1. make the GW3
2. you change the game

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Posted by: babazhook.6805

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Condition duration can be a greater advantage in builds that do not rely on damaging conditions to do damage.As in turning a 2 second Immob into three or a 2 second weakness into 4.

I find that in any given build if one of those base damaging conditions has a low duration yet easily applied in your Condition damage build, than more duration on the same a good thing. As example extending the bleed duration off a p/d (thief ) build which is 4 seconds base is much more important than is extending bleed duration on a Death blossom build which has a 10 second base.

If you use dagger mastery for more poisons than it really does not do a lot unless you have some duration there. People tend to have cleanses available to them that they use every XX seconds so having XX+3 duration does not do a lot. If you can maximize those stacks between those cleanses and keep all conditions applied ticking for that long you maximize damage. Given the differences in a given classes ability to cleanse this often easier said than done which is why there those that suggest just boosting overall condition damage is more effective.

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