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Posted by: Antiriad.7160

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Someone already speculated that enemy zergs will just be hailing each other now to flip objectives in WvW..

Guess what just happened in EB?
Our commander ordered, not to attack the enemy zerg and vice versa.

Both our Zergs passed right by each other while each one is attacking the other Fraction’s structure, ignoring it instead of defending it, just so they can flip faster without “distractions”. :-p
And by “right by” I mean it as it sounds, we nearly TOUCHED the zerg, 10 meters distance. Orders were clear: Do not attack them/defend the keep – flip moar stuff instead! And people approved of it since it was “more efficient”.

gg Arenanet, thanks for bringing us this awesome WvW game with awesome Ascended items.

Colin ‘The Liar’ Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on equal power base.”

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Posted by: Zackie.8923

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must have taken a hell lot of discipline from both sides.

if it were from my server , all hell will break loose.

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Posted by: Antiriad.7160

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Interesting, we usually have trains instead, quite the opposite of breaking loose. Well a few people branched out, but the commands were repeated in map chat and I assume on server-TS too (I wasn’t on it, but a lot of people are, usually) and I think most players understand that they profit the easiest way this way.

Colin ‘The Liar’ Johanson: “Everyone, including casual gamers, by 80 should have the
best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on equal power base.”

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Posted by: zen.6091

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I was honestly wondering the other night how long it would be before wvw becomes little more than a pit stop for champ farming with different scenery, and how long it might be before people actually trying to play the game are flamed. A couple nights ago I received angry whispers from a roaming group for messing up their camp flips.

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

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Lol like i said before WvW is like AB on factions just with walls and siege to counter those barriers, that behavior confirms it, since game is all about cap castles as if they are shrines.
Capping shrines faster makes server loose less ppt, so it makes sense what happened.

I really tough game would envolve.

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Posted by: Meglobob.8620

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Yes, its happening on a lot of servers, 3 server trains following each another around with orders not to attack each another so we all can flip sm, keeps as efficiently as possible…

No upgrading of anything allowed or guild claiming…

No one cares less about the matchups/fighting each another…just want ascended weapons as easy as possible…

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Posted by: Antiriad.7160

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Well, I just returned a short while ago after being offline for 9 months after Ascended trinkets were introduced, but this is sort of helpful, since as a WvW-focussed player I can now finally come to closure with this game.
Time to http://camelotunchained.com/en/category/foundationalprinciple/?orderby=date&order=asc

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Posted by: Colly.4073

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WvW was already in the dustbin but this addition to the game has put the lid on that dustbin and thrown it on the tip.

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Posted by: zen.6091

zen.6091

Lol like i said before WvW is like AB on factions just with walls and siege to counter those barriers, that behavior confirms it, since game is all about cap castles as if they are shrines.
Capping shrines faster makes server loose less ppt, so it makes sense what happened.

I really tough game would envolve.

At least AB battles only lasted about 20 minutes with a winner at the end when it became a game of shrine speed capping or mobbing, and the 4v4s were always fun. Even a well-oiled golem train plowing through paper structures is fairly slow and terribly boring, and if you dare to break off the group, you risk missing out on the rewards. Bring an alt like say, an upscaled mes to help speed it up if there are not enough portals, and you get bakittens and WXP on a character you don’t care about.

Gets old and not worth it fighting the game more than the players at some point.

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Posted by: Hvaran.6327

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haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

PVE CAptains!!))))) haha

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Posted by: Sitkaz.5463

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I’m not sure that commander was worth following. I usually follow orders, but if they’re particularly silly I go my own way. So what really happened here is your zerg obeyed a silly order.

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Posted by: Wemil.7052

Wemil.7052

what?
why the hell would they not want to kill each other and why the hell do ppls follow pve commanders?

if you see a zerg you wipe it if your outmanned but not outgunned you find the perfect location to wipe em.

dear god if its a sfr eb commander doing that hell will break lose scream for days long.

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Posted by: Norvindus.9536

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@OP

This is exactly what I feared whould happen when they added benefits that outweigh actually killing people to structures. Its Warhammer Online karma/gravy train all over again, where people would just join the train flip keeps for maximum benefit.

I had hoped the developers would have seen the fail and added more benefits to player lootbags, so you get a reason to actually kill players in roaming/defence/attack.

Take a page from DAOC how Realmpoints are given and add measures to stop kill trading. (Enemy dead within last 1-5 minutes lesser rewards if any) or something I am sure the developers can think up a smart solution.

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Posted by: MiniMe.1960

MiniMe.1960

Came back after a 2 or 3 month break. No defense, no upgrade no nothing. If someone gives intel about an attack the answer was: " Leave it alone, we’ll take it back in a few minutes".
Conclusion … People rather fight doors and npc’s than real people.
Conclusion2 … my server sucks as much as all the others.
Conclusion3 … I’m a f…ing noob who doesn’t get the game.

After an hour running with the masses I’m back on solo roaming trying to get som fights.

Cheers

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Posted by: Tom Gore.4035

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One – Piken Square

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Posted by: Lord Galwrath.9302

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Oh please, everyone saw it coming. It’s been known since day 1 that Arena Net will cater to the casuals because they are the lifeblood of WvW.

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Posted by: Meeks.1079

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Right now is also at the end of the match-up where many matches have long been decided. I know my server karma trained yesterday because we were in 3rd place with no hope of finishing higher so we made the best of it and flipped keeps back and forth. I know once the next matchup starts the commanders that led this will be playing for real again(hopefully against different servers).

Also seems like after the initial rush there will be more than enough mats to be gained playing normally. I am not too worried at this point.

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Posted by: Sizzle Hint.1820

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If they are in WvW to farm ascended stuff they are doing it wrong, it is A LOT faster to do it in PvE. And if u just do PvD in WvW it’s exactly that, PvE with less rewards.

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Posted by: lordkrall.7241

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This isn’t really something new though.
We had a commander that tried doing this back when WXP was released as well. So I highly doubt it is tied directly to Ascended stuff.

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Posted by: Johje Holan.4607

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Yep, a perfect case of be careful what you ask for.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

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A few well placed arrow carts and some like-minded defenders can really throw a wrench into any back room deals.

L’enfer, c’est les autres

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Posted by: Straegen.2938

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Sadly the fix to all this was sort of obvious. PvE players get ascended weapons by farming PvE content. WvW should have been badges and karma. Could have slowed down the build rate by putting a long timer on the building of said items in WvW. Instead we have to farm keeps/castles (grind) and craft (grind) just to get items that will allow us to keep up with the Jones’.

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Posted by: Tyaen.5148

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DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

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Posted by: Xenesis.6389

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Was wondering how quickly this would happen. With the amount of unbalanced match ups now shouldn’t be surprising to see servers switch to farm mode coming out the weekend of the match up. I’m sure a lot of pvp players just want to get the ascended weapon and get gearing over with, again. And yes pve champ farming is a lot better and faster, but some people just want to stick to pvp.

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

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If they are in WvW to farm ascended stuff they are doing it wrong, it is A LOT faster to do it in PvE. And if u just do PvD in WvW it’s exactly that, PvE with less rewards.

Probably a lot of these players don’t even have the right maps discovered in PvE to farm well. People just want to get this Ascended gear out of the way so that they can resume playing the game.

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Posted by: JemL.3501

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and? is not different than be jumping in the pve map for each big chest, especially when the match is already over

I took an arrow to the knee

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Posted by: Zikory.6871

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If they are in WvW to farm ascended stuff they are doing it wrong, it is A LOT faster to do it in PvE. And if u just do PvD in WvW it’s exactly that, PvE with less rewards.

Yes, but you can’t farm WXP in PvE. Though the ascended rewards pale in comparison, the WXP income is quite good. So you’re kinda hitting 2 birds with one stone. Well 1 and a half birds

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