Guild Wars 2

Hello everyone, I come from the heart of the mists and the pvp league season. I’ve played season 1 and season 2 and frankly I am disillusioned with the balance, matchmaking, league system and pvp as a whole. I quit league and gone back to unranked, but now I’m considering wvw again.

I’ve popped in back and forth and seen the empty borderlands and everybody fighting at EB. Now, I just want to know. Is wvw truly dead, is there a pulse? Pvp is literally unravelling before my eyes and I’m considering coming back to wvw. I’m trying to make a decision and need some input, so what do you say everyone? Wvw or pvp?

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Right now wvw is in a transition phase. HoT took a large toll on wvw and left a bad taste for many players. There are some updates coming up for wvw that might help the situation, but whether or not it can save wvw, bring people back, and keep people playing, we just have to wait and see.

Personally I am not a fan of the PvP gamemode because its to small and limiting for my liking. I got hooked on WvW shortly after I started GW2 because of its diversity in gameplay. There are a lot more roles a person can play, whether you like to run in a zerg and fight large battles, roam around, run small havok/small op teams, scout, etc. The maps are larger and have a better layout. PvP was for the longest time 2 small teams camping a couple points, and everybody running either bunker or burst, and anyone who was a problem would get ganked constantly, I never found that fun…I can imagine the lack of balance and power creep has made that even worse lol.

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Right now wvw is in a transition phase. HoT took a large toll on wvw and left a bad taste for many players. There are some updates coming up for wvw that might help the situation, but whether or not it can save wvw, bring people back, and keep people playing, we just have to wait and see.

Personally I am not a fan of the PvP gamemode because its to small and limiting for my liking. I got hooked on WvW shortly after I started GW2 because of its diversity in gameplay. There are a lot more roles a person can play, whether you like to run in a zerg and fight large battles, roam around, run small havok/small op teams, scout, etc. The maps are larger and have a better layout. PvP was for the longest time 2 small teams camping a couple points, and everybody running either bunker or burst, and anyone who was a problem would get ganked constantly, I never found that fun…I can imagine the lack of balance and power creep has made that even worse lol.

Haha come to think of it, I instinctively gravitated towards wvw at release instead of pvp. Pvp is still fun, (only in hotjoin/unranked) but wvw in my view always had more potential instead of conquest, your post says it all. Also, YES the power creep has made it worse lol. Warrior got hit the hardest. It’s a shame that the WARRIOR profession has to flee when he’s pressured, even though the character creation says, “they can stay in the fight”.

JTGuevara.9018:

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Right now wvw is in a transition phase. HoT took a large toll on wvw and left a bad taste for many players. There are some updates coming up for wvw that might help the situation, but whether or not it can save wvw, bring people back, and keep people playing, we just have to wait and see.

Personally I am not a fan of the PvP gamemode because its to small and limiting for my liking. I got hooked on WvW shortly after I started GW2 because of its diversity in gameplay. There are a lot more roles a person can play, whether you like to run in a zerg and fight large battles, roam around, run small havok/small op teams, scout, etc. The maps are larger and have a better layout. PvP was for the longest time 2 small teams camping a couple points, and everybody running either bunker or burst, and anyone who was a problem would get ganked constantly, I never found that fun…I can imagine the lack of balance and power creep has made that even worse lol.

Haha come to think of it, I instinctively gravitated towards wvw at release instead of pvp. Pvp is still fun, (only in hotjoin/unranked) but wvw in my view always had more potential instead of conquest, your post says it all. Also, YES the power creep has made it worse lol. Warrior got hit the hardest. It’s a shame that the WARRIOR profession has to flee when he’s pressured, even though the character creation says, “they can stay in the fight”.

I feel your pain, warrior used to be my main lol. I played a good amount of pvp in gw1 where there were different modes and pretty much every profession had great builds and roles to choose from. I was rather confused and surprised why gw2 had this one mode, everybody was doing the same thing, and you only see the same professions because every couple months anet buffs a new profession and nerfs the previous top one lol, its like a buff/nerf circus where they pick the winners and losers.

So I got into wvw, which was one of the reasons I had bought the game after looking at videos and online reviews. There I was a total noob in green gear, no ts, no clue what I was doing, just hit level 80. At first I just stood in keeps watching players and looking at the map, then felt confident enough to follow a commander and zerg..and I never looked back. WvW is the most fun I ever had in a game, the fights, coordination, lots of variety, and tons of friendly folks around just make it such an enjoyable experience.

WvW is in a worse spot than PvP.

morrolan.9608:

WvW is in a worse spot than PvP.

I know wvw is in a worse spot, but pvp is propped up by the reward tracks and legendary backpack grind. Frankly, as a warrior it’s just not easy these days.

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JTGuevara.9018:

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Right now wvw is in a transition phase. HoT took a large toll on wvw and left a bad taste for many players. There are some updates coming up for wvw that might help the situation, but whether or not it can save wvw, bring people back, and keep people playing, we just have to wait and see.

Personally I am not a fan of the PvP gamemode because its to small and limiting for my liking. I got hooked on WvW shortly after I started GW2 because of its diversity in gameplay. There are a lot more roles a person can play, whether you like to run in a zerg and fight large battles, roam around, run small havok/small op teams, scout, etc. The maps are larger and have a better layout. PvP was for the longest time 2 small teams camping a couple points, and everybody running either bunker or burst, and anyone who was a problem would get ganked constantly, I never found that fun…I can imagine the lack of balance and power creep has made that even worse lol.

Haha come to think of it, I instinctively gravitated towards wvw at release instead of pvp. Pvp is still fun, (only in hotjoin/unranked) but wvw in my view always had more potential instead of conquest, your post says it all. Also, YES the power creep has made it worse lol. Warrior got hit the hardest. It’s a shame that the WARRIOR profession has to flee when he’s pressured, even though the character creation says, “they can stay in the fight”.

I feel your pain, warrior used to be my main lol. I played a good amount of pvp in gw1 where there were different modes and pretty much every profession had great builds and roles to choose from. I was rather confused and surprised why gw2 had this one mode, everybody was doing the same thing, and you only see the same professions because every couple months anet buffs a new profession and nerfs the previous top one lol, its like a buff/nerf circus where they pick the winners and losers.

So I got into wvw, which was one of the reasons I had bought the game after looking at videos and online reviews. There I was a total noob in green gear, no ts, no clue what I was doing, just hit level 80. At first I just stood in keeps watching players and looking at the map, then felt confident enough to follow a commander and zerg..and I never looked back. WvW is the most fun I ever had in a game, the fights, coordination, lots of variety, and tons of friendly folks around just make it such an enjoyable experience.

haha green gear, those were the days! :P

I remember when I first played wvw at release, the first thing I fought was a guard. I died of course!

Another thing I love about WvW is that competitive communities are fostered by the players themselves. You see this in GvG matches, roaming, small group fights and obviously zergs. There’s room for all. PvP on the other hand, the competitive community is fostered from the top. You see this through esports and the league system. It’s artificial. Also, look at the hotjoin browser, DEAD. It’s like pvp doesn’t really encourage people to pick up and play.

WvW you just pick up and play. When you talk to the charr instructor at your BL citadel and he explains the rules, that’s all you need! Nothing more! The rest is all player generated!

JTGuevara.9018:

Another thing I love about WvW is that competitive communities are fostered by the players themselves. You see this in GvG matches, roaming, small group fights and obviously zergs. There’s room for all. PvP on the other hand, the competitive community is fostered from the top. You see this through esports and the league system. It’s artificial. Also, look at the hotjoin browser, DEAD. It’s like pvp doesn’t really encourage people to pick up and play.

WvW you just pick up and play. When you talk to the charr instructor at your BL citadel and he explains the rules, that’s all you need! Nothing more! The rest is all player generated!

Heh yea that was another reason I got hooked on wvw. The relative simplicity of the alpine map and eb made it very easy for starting players like me at the time to navigate and learn the area. Combine that with the amazing level of activity at that time, it was easy to find action anytime of day, so like you say, just pick up and play anytime. It was just so inviting and easy to get immersed in. One sec your loading into citadel, couple minutes later your fighting a zerg inside bay lol.

Yeah, wvw is the one thing that stands out among gw2 and it was not taken advantage of.

Is it dead? I suppose it depends on what you want from WvWvW. If you prefer big, casual pug fights then you should be ok. Though even those encounters are a shell of their former selves. Since I’m more into guild raids/small man, WvWvW has turned into a wasteland. As much as I’d like to play, I find myself only being to tolerate it. And even then for an hour or so at best.

JTGuevara.9018:

Wvw or pvp?

stick to pvp and delete this thread
eb is the pvp map
3 bls are the pve map where you can chain events like capping stuffs and gaining karma

dubstax.9102:

My suggestion would be if you want to return to World vs. World that you do so on a server such as Darkhaven (shameless promotion) or any T1-4 server.

yah dh is a good server too, they fight too like immortals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmNgz1uwnY8

Plenty of life left in WvW just not nearly as much as their used to be and virtually no decent GvG play left. Zerg, roaming and skirmish are still easy to find. I play pretty much every day for at least a couple hours at random times in T1. I never have trouble finding a fight big or small. T1 now reminds me of T4-T5 in the first year of WvW.

Straegen.2938:

Plenty of life left in WvW just not nearly as much as their used to be and virtually no decent GvG play left. Zerg, roaming and skirmish are still easy to find. I play pretty much every day for at least a couple hours at random times in T1. I never have trouble finding a fight big or small. T1 now reminds me of T4-T5 in the first year of WvW.

Good to read. Alright, I’ll give wvw a shot again. When Alpine comes back, I’ll be a mainstay again.