Controlling all three sides of EOTM
EOTM was a live beta run for mega servers. It’s a useless mode and they have not ever cared about it. It all depends on the people in the map on if its a karma train, defending, bag farming, or w/e else goes on their now. Basically its just someones idea of super fast xp, when quite frankly the low levels in there killed any chance of it to fun or worthwhile investment of time. Sad part is the xp isn’t all that fast in compared to other pve activities. It’s just one more place slacker/noob(s) feel entitled to let everyone else carry them.
As far as I know, each player can only control their own character…
I’ve been on maps where 3 commanders (one on each side) were in the same guild and deliberately avoiding each other to run a karma train. It’s terribly boring, but there’s no rule against people collaborating. If you don’t like it, get a tag and start leading the way you want.
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EotM isn’t WvW because the points you get from EotM have no value. The outcome of each 3 hour match is meaningless.
Because EotM’s points have no value, players can basically do whatever they want. If your on a map where one corner wants to control/defend and farm bags from all three keeps, then they can. If your map wants to avoid confrontations and just farm karma, they can. This behavior is accepted because the points at the end of each match doesn’t mean anything. Each EotM map changes depending on what the commander/players want ie Karma or bags. You’ll just have to find maps that are after the same thing as you.
This isn’t accepted in REAL WvW because the points matter. Your not just in WvW to get karma and farm bags, its about getting points and beating another world/server.
EotM isn’t WvW because the points you get from EotM have no value. The outcome of each 3 hour match is meaningless.
Because EotM’s points have no value, players can basically do whatever they want. If your on a map where one corner wants to control/defend and farm bags from all three keeps, then they can. If your map wants to avoid confrontations and just farm karma, they can. This behavior is accepted because the points at the end of each match doesn’t mean anything. Each EotM map changes depending on what the commander/players want ie Karma or bags. You’ll just have to find maps that are after the same thing as you.
This isn’t accepted in REAL WvW because the points matter. Your not just in WvW to get karma and farm bags, its about getting points and beating another world/server.
Except in Tier 1, where it’s about making sure TC stay in T1 so the GvG stuff can continue.
Actually, the whole “it doesn’t matter compared to real WvW” argument is inherently silly. “Real” WvW doesn’t matter either. This is a game, right?
EotM isn’t WvW because the points you get from EotM have no value. The outcome of each 3 hour match is meaningless.
Because EotM’s points have no value, players can basically do whatever they want. If your on a map where one corner wants to control/defend and farm bags from all three keeps, then they can. If your map wants to avoid confrontations and just farm karma, they can. This behavior is accepted because the points at the end of each match doesn’t mean anything. Each EotM map changes depending on what the commander/players want ie Karma or bags. You’ll just have to find maps that are after the same thing as you.
This isn’t accepted in REAL WvW because the points matter. Your not just in WvW to get karma and farm bags, its about getting points and beating another world/server.
Except in Tier 1, where it’s about making sure TC stay in T1 so the GvG stuff can continue.
Actually, the whole “it doesn’t matter compared to real WvW” argument is inherently silly. “Real” WvW doesn’t matter either. This is a game, right?
The point he ChoChoBo was making was that EOTM has no value in changing server rankings compared to WvW.
One directly affects ranking and how servers rise or fall at the end of the week, the other doesn’t. Claiming this is equal makes no sense. The argument “this is a game” doesn’t fly since in that case no competative sport would matter in any shape or form.
EotM isn’t WvW because the points you get from EotM have no value. The outcome of each 3 hour match is meaningless.
Because EotM’s points have no value, players can basically do whatever they want. If your on a map where one corner wants to control/defend and farm bags from all three keeps, then they can. If your map wants to avoid confrontations and just farm karma, they can. This behavior is accepted because the points at the end of each match doesn’t mean anything. Each EotM map changes depending on what the commander/players want ie Karma or bags. You’ll just have to find maps that are after the same thing as you.
This isn’t accepted in REAL WvW because the points matter. Your not just in WvW to get karma and farm bags, its about getting points and beating another world/server.
Except in Tier 1, where it’s about making sure TC stay in T1 so the GvG stuff can continue.
Actually, the whole “it doesn’t matter compared to real WvW” argument is inherently silly. “Real” WvW doesn’t matter either. This is a game, right?
The point he ChoChoBo was making was that EOTM has no value in changing server rankings compared to WvW.
One directly affects ranking and how servers rise or fall at the end of the week, the other doesn’t. Claiming this is equal makes no sense. The argument “this is a game” doesn’t fly since in that case no competative sport would matter in any shape or form.
None of it matters other than the competitor’s desire to win. In EOTM like in any other PvP game you can win by killing other players. In “proper” WvW it’s the same thing, except you get a meaningless leaderboad (because T1 is fixed) too.
EotM isn’t WvW because the points you get from EotM have no value. The outcome of each 3 hour match is meaningless.
Because EotM’s points have no value, players can basically do whatever they want. If your on a map where one corner wants to control/defend and farm bags from all three keeps, then they can. If your map wants to avoid confrontations and just farm karma, they can. This behavior is accepted because the points at the end of each match doesn’t mean anything. Each EotM map changes depending on what the commander/players want ie Karma or bags. You’ll just have to find maps that are after the same thing as you.
This isn’t accepted in REAL WvW because the points matter. Your not just in WvW to get karma and farm bags, its about getting points and beating another world/server.
Except in Tier 1, where it’s about making sure TC stay in T1 so the GvG stuff can continue.
Actually, the whole “it doesn’t matter compared to real WvW” argument is inherently silly. “Real” WvW doesn’t matter either. This is a game, right?
The point he ChoChoBo was making was that EOTM has no value in changing server rankings compared to WvW.
One directly affects ranking and how servers rise or fall at the end of the week, the other doesn’t. Claiming this is equal makes no sense. The argument “this is a game” doesn’t fly since in that case no competative sport would matter in any shape or form.
None of it matters other than the competitor’s desire to win. In EOTM like in any other PvP game you can win by killing other players. In “proper” WvW it’s the same thing, except you get a meaningless leaderboad (because T1 is fixed) too.
Meaningless to you. Not meaningless to others who invest a lot of time in WvW.
Your values =/= other peoples values.
EotM isn’t WvW because the points you get from EotM have no value. The outcome of each 3 hour match is meaningless.
Because EotM’s points have no value, players can basically do whatever they want. If your on a map where one corner wants to control/defend and farm bags from all three keeps, then they can. If your map wants to avoid confrontations and just farm karma, they can. This behavior is accepted because the points at the end of each match doesn’t mean anything. Each EotM map changes depending on what the commander/players want ie Karma or bags. You’ll just have to find maps that are after the same thing as you.
This isn’t accepted in REAL WvW because the points matter. Your not just in WvW to get karma and farm bags, its about getting points and beating another world/server.
Except in Tier 1, where it’s about making sure TC stay in T1 so the GvG stuff can continue.
Actually, the whole “it doesn’t matter compared to real WvW” argument is inherently silly. “Real” WvW doesn’t matter either. This is a game, right?
The point he ChoChoBo was making was that EOTM has no value in changing server rankings compared to WvW.
One directly affects ranking and how servers rise or fall at the end of the week, the other doesn’t. Claiming this is equal makes no sense. The argument “this is a game” doesn’t fly since in that case no competative sport would matter in any shape or form.
None of it matters other than the competitor’s desire to win. In EOTM like in any other PvP game you can win by killing other players. In “proper” WvW it’s the same thing, except you get a meaningless leaderboad (because T1 is fixed) too.
Meaningless to you. Not meaningless to others who invest a lot of time in WvW.
Your values =/= other peoples values.
The top tier is fixed. TC aren’t allowed to drop down into T2, which means nobody can go UP into T1. Kinda devalues any meaning in all the rankings.
EotM isn’t WvW because the points you get from EotM have no value. The outcome of each 3 hour match is meaningless.
Because EotM’s points have no value, players can basically do whatever they want. If your on a map where one corner wants to control/defend and farm bags from all three keeps, then they can. If your map wants to avoid confrontations and just farm karma, they can. This behavior is accepted because the points at the end of each match doesn’t mean anything. Each EotM map changes depending on what the commander/players want ie Karma or bags. You’ll just have to find maps that are after the same thing as you.
This isn’t accepted in REAL WvW because the points matter. Your not just in WvW to get karma and farm bags, its about getting points and beating another world/server.
Except in Tier 1, where it’s about making sure TC stay in T1 so the GvG stuff can continue.
Actually, the whole “it doesn’t matter compared to real WvW” argument is inherently silly. “Real” WvW doesn’t matter either. This is a game, right?
The point he ChoChoBo was making was that EOTM has no value in changing server rankings compared to WvW.
One directly affects ranking and how servers rise or fall at the end of the week, the other doesn’t. Claiming this is equal makes no sense. The argument “this is a game” doesn’t fly since in that case no competative sport would matter in any shape or form.
None of it matters other than the competitor’s desire to win. In EOTM like in any other PvP game you can win by killing other players. In “proper” WvW it’s the same thing, except you get a meaningless leaderboad (because T1 is fixed) too.
Meaningless to you. Not meaningless to others who invest a lot of time in WvW.
Your values =/= other peoples values.
The top tier is fixed. TC aren’t allowed to drop down into T2, which means nobody can go UP into T1. Kinda devalues any meaning in all the rankings.
Yet each and every week thousands of players fight for points and ranking within T1. Again, what you deem has value must not be true for every one else.
It’s acceptable. It’s not against the rules. I don’t think ANet had any intention with EotM other than a beta implement of megaserver.
It’s acceptable. It’s not against the rules. I don’t think ANet had any intention with EotM other than a beta implement of megaserver.
If this is the case, I’d like to hear it from ArenaNet themselves.
One directly affects ranking and how servers rise or fall at the end of the week, the other doesn’t. Claiming this is equal makes no sense. The argument “this is a game” doesn’t fly since in that case no competative sport would matter in any shape or form.
WvW is a competitive sport? Good joke.
WvW is as close to be competitive as a bar fight is close to be an olympic discipline.
And several tiers are stuck now, match outcome doesn’t affect ranking any longer.
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Care to shed some light on this, ArenaNet?
I think that there was a thread the said that matchfixing, even in EotM was a bannable offense, but kill trading in OS for UD was fine, because OS doesn’t affect scores. EotM does give supply, which could affect WvW.
And we all know how hard it is for hackers, spies and siege griefers to operate in WvW.
Secondary question: my guild has members across lots of servers. If it’s okay to communicate to avoid combat, would it also be okay to communicate with “the enemy” to encourage it?
Meaning, could I have a guildie on another side communicate the position of the zerg so that I might be able to do my best Choxie impression and get into position to repeatedly Spectral Wall them off the map?
Transferring is expensive and this seems like a fun way I could play “WvW” with guildies on other servers.
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I am a little confused by this thread. The OP states the topic in the opening post, talking about people apparently don’t think eotm is real wvw, etc……the post comes off as someone who is somewhat new to wvw and eotm. But then, when other posters disagree with the OP, suddenly the OP becomes some sort of ‘expert’ on T1 and how it works, and wvw, yadda, yadda, yadda…….
I don’t know…..smells like a troll post to me.
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I am a little confused by this thread. The OP states the topic in the opening post, talking about people apparently don’t think eotm is real wvw, etc……the post comes off as someone who is somewhat new to wvw and eotm. But then, when other posters disagree with the OP, suddenly the OP becomes some sort of ‘expert’ on T1 and how it works, and wvw, yadda, yadda, yadda…….
I don’t know…..smells like a troll post to me.
Been playing EOTM since the start. What about you?