Guild Wars 2

A lot of us understand that Anet is a company and needs money to pay bills and salaries, etc – and players want WvW fixed – so why not let players put their money where their mouth is? There are plenty of threads in this forum with many good ideas to fix problems or redesign current mechanics, which shows that the community wants things to get better. We want to see WvW succeed. Why not offer the people something that they want, and see who is willing to pay for it?

I’d readily throw down $20 if it guaranteed a better WvW experience.

Anyone else?

I will donate $3.50

but seriously i would contribute to this

Id actually Pay good money for a WvW expansion / overhaul. That’s the only thing that would bring me back

I cannot really think of many features implemented by ANet that have come out of the online community which bodes poorly for future endeavors regardless of how they are funded. Anet and the GW2 crew have a very clear idea of what they want and believe the game needs. This seems to be at odds with the online community.

There have been a handful of online initiated fixes but not many. I am pretty sure that bug list created by the online community a while back is still 99% undone.

Hehe no this needs to come from Anet. They’re an established company, not a start-up. They are more than capable of paying for the development of such large changes by selling expansions, which I’d buy.

Id pay 60$ for WvW stand alone

ya i could go for this.

the main reason i came to this game was for wvw/pvp

if i wanted pve there is better games out there

it would be nice to see a wvw revamp

IF, and only IF, such a founding was earmarked WVW ONLY, with a publicly released statement and publicly released and avaliable contract binding Arena Net and the funding group/account. And that the money could not be used for anything but WvW under no circumstances, apart from saving the company from going bust. Then, and only then, would i help fund such a endeavor.

Nah, all my gem shop money clearly went towards Living story fluff and their eSports pipe dream.

I was able to actually do this. I stopped putting any money into this game and put it all in CU.

Anet deserves no more of my money. There’s a cheater who has been blatantly cheating every second he has been playing since almost the game’s release and NOTHING has been done about it. He’s on NSP and is even a commander.

My only theory is certain cheaters are spending thousands of dollars on gems and Anet loves the cash flow.

Lots all trust in Anet.

I might buy the expansion if I get bored, but apart from that they aint getting any more from me.

If they want more they have to show that they deserve it.
And even if you do crowd source it, tenner bet it all goes to PvE :P

If there was a WvW expansion which was more then “colored tags, lack of white swords” I’d pay for it. Heck bought GW2 solely for WvW in the first place. So as long as they were to make an expansion worth while and not just easy changes, I’d pay for it.

Crowdfund CU instead, a little competition never hurts.

Pinkamena Diane Pie.8054:

Lots all trust in Anet.

I might buy the expansion if I get bored, but apart from that they aint getting any more from me.

If they want more they have to show that they deserve it.
And even if you do crowd source it, tenner bet it all goes to PvE :P

Nononono it will go developing how the milk more money out of ppl who buy apsolutly useless gem store stuff as flying mail rats and useless toys.

Like i allready said in several other topic. If they made WvW related expansion (New maps, PPT system, new siege, towers keeps, Guild claiming has meening, comander and scout system and all the bug fixes) there would be around 50k-60k EU wvw players willing to pay 20€ insta. From NA most likely same and china who knows how many. Most likely bigger part of PVE players would still buy it.
Pretty sure they could come up whit some sort of Gem store related milking things to add there.
They would make lot of proffit. But as they got rid all of the ppl who had any idea how to do such thing, there never will be anymore WvW related over hauls.
Any dev who has experiense whit gw2 can make white swords disapear.

People always seems to be under the impression that everything can be solved by just throwing more money at it. That is rather often not the case.

Another thing to keep in mind is that based on these forums alone there are many different suggestions and several of them goes against each other. So which ones should they go with? Which ones are even possible to do without basically rewriting the game?

lordkrall.7241:

People always seems to be under the impression that everything can be solved by just throwing more money at it. That is rather often not the case.

Another thing to keep in mind is that based on these forums alone there are many different suggestions and several of them goes against each other. So which ones should they go with? Which ones are even possible to do without basically rewriting the game?

So, that’s why they decided to do absolutely nothing for almost two and a half years??? If they only listen the players suggestions,that means they have 0 vision for WvW, players suggestions are here to help Anet not to show the path.
Yes the players suggestions are mixed, but that’s only because Anet failed to give the same this players direction for they suggestions, by not sharing anything with us, how we can focus our suggestions if they don’t give us something to focus on?
Either they don’t know what to do or they not even trying to do anything, take a guess.

Avit.3165:

So, that’s why they decided to do absolutely nothing for almost two and a half years??? If they only listen the players suggestions,that means they have 0 vision for WvW, players suggestions are here to help Anet not to show the path.
Yes the players suggestions are mixed, but that’s only because Anet failed to give the same this players direction for they suggestions, by not sharing anything with us, how we can focus our suggestions if they don’t give us something to focus on?
Either they don’t know what to do or they not even trying to do anything, take a guess.

Why do people always ignore all the changes/additions to WvW when they talk about development?

Claiming we have had absolutely nothing for WvW is blatant lying.

We have gotten changed borderlands.
We have gotten a progression system.
We have gotten additions to said progression system.
We have gotten a completely new map.
We have gotten a overhauled queuing system.
We have gotten new ways to fight and defend.

All these things have been added based on feedback of the players. Claiming that is absolutely nothing is ridiculous.

lordkrall.7241:

People always seems to be under the impression that everything can be solved by just throwing more money at it. That is rather often not the case.

Another thing to keep in mind is that based on these forums alone there are many different suggestions and several of them goes against each other. So which ones should they go with? Which ones are even possible to do without basically rewriting the game?

Exactly such questions could be addressed via crowd founding, and in fact I see its strength exactly there: “this change would have this value to me” collected over the community. Btw.: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Content-for-gems-Crowdfunding-in-GW2

No it wouldn’t.

It would basically just mean that people with enough money could decide what to add to the game. Giving people the ability to decide what is added and not based on their money is never a good idea.

What we gotten is stuff what ppl did not ask nor want. EoTM is not wvw its karma train map it dose not count for the real wvw at all.
Adding the number count to que should have been there since day 1.
“new ways to fight and defend.” wtf is that The new trap what no one wanted dosn’t even count as progress even slightly.
Removal of white swords is actually stepping 1 time back rather then progressing.

Only things i see as progress is adding com color tags. And that to came from new LS pve stuff. Golems getting mastery and 5min’s respawning.

xGraver.4918:

What we gotten is stuff what ppl did not ask nor want. EoTM is not wvw its karma train map it dose not count for the real wvw at all.
Adding the number count to que should have been there since day 1.
“new ways to fight and defend.” wtf is that The kittenty new trap what no one wanted dosn’t even count progress even slightly.

We have gotten stuff people asked for. You might not like it and it might not have been in the way you wanted it, but the fact remains that it was added as a direct result of feedback on the forums. In-fact it was even fully possible to join beta-testing of said map in order to make sure it was what we wanted. And it did change based on that feedback as well.

Just because something should have been here since day one doesn’t mean it wasn’t added.

The traps have actually changed the way to fight and defend quite a bit. Not to mention the WvW abilities.

This just goes to show that people don’t actually know what it is they actually want.

lordkrall.7241:

We have gotten a completely new map.

Really? Which one is that?
Haven’y played WvW for a couple of months.

Nick.6972:

Really? Which one is that?
Haven’y played WvW for a couple of months.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Edge_of_the_Mists

OK ok ok WE want nothing and let you be in here wvw alone whit pve scrubs till end.
TRue words of useless ppt scrub who only sees gold and karma.

What’s the point of even arguing or asking stuff. I allready know that there is no updates coming for WvW till 2016. If the population keeps droping as it is now theres no money inflow it will be shut down or made 1 big karma train like EoTM.
Thats why there are no wvw dev’s or any word from so called CDI.

Pretty sure ill be moderated again for few weeks because i know the truth.

lordkrall.7241:

Nick.6972:

Really? Which one is that?
Haven’y played WvW for a couple of months.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Edge_of_the_Mists

I mean, new WvW map, have they added one?
I think i’m out of loop.

I would pay for a WvW expansion

lordkrall.7241:

Avit.3165:

So, that’s why they decided to do absolutely nothing for almost two and a half years??? If they only listen the players suggestions,that means they have 0 vision for WvW, players suggestions are here to help Anet not to show the path.
Yes the players suggestions are mixed, but that’s only because Anet failed to give the same this players direction for they suggestions, by not sharing anything with us, how we can focus our suggestions if they don’t give us something to focus on?
Either they don’t know what to do or they not even trying to do anything, take a guess.

Why do people always ignore all the changes/additions to WvW when they talk about development?

Claiming we have had absolutely nothing for WvW is blatant lying.

We have gotten changed borderlands.
We have gotten a progression system.
We have gotten additions to said progression system.
We have gotten a completely new map.
We have gotten a overhauled queuing system.
We have gotten new ways to fight and defend.

All these things have been added based on feedback of the players. Claiming that is absolutely nothing is ridiculous.

Are you for real real? Which game are you playing, when was the last time you visit WvW, and when was the last time when you visit EOTM? Sometime, when i see you posting in here, i wonder, don’t you feel lonely in this subforum?
Do you know how many people got suspended, because of you?

I tend to visit WvW at least a couple of times each week. You claimed that there had been absolutely nothing for WvW for 2,5 years. Which is quite clearly factually incorrect, as seen by the very list you quoted.

The fact that they are not exactly as you want them does not mean they were not added. It just goes to show that the players here usually don’t have a clue about what they actually want.

lordkrall.7241:

I tend to visit WvW at least a couple of times each week. You claimed that there had been absolutely nothing for WvW for 2,5 years. Which is quite clearly factually incorrect, as seen by the very list you quoted.

The fact that they are not exactly as you want them does not mean they were not added. It just goes to show that the players here usually don’t have a clue about what they actually want.

Why i’m even trying …
LIke i’m reading Devon Carver interview, 1 to 1

lordkrall.7241:

Avit.3165:

So, that’s why they decided to do absolutely nothing for almost two and a half years??? If they only listen the players suggestions,that means they have 0 vision for WvW, players suggestions are here to help Anet not to show the path.
Yes the players suggestions are mixed, but that’s only because Anet failed to give the same this players direction for they suggestions, by not sharing anything with us, how we can focus our suggestions if they don’t give us something to focus on?
Either they don’t know what to do or they not even trying to do anything, take a guess.

Why do people always ignore all the changes/additions to WvW when they talk about development?

Claiming we have had absolutely nothing for WvW is blatant lying.

We have gotten changed borderlands.
We have gotten a progression system.
We have gotten additions to said progression system.
We have gotten a completely new map.
We have gotten a overhauled queuing system.
We have gotten new ways to fight and defend.

All these things have been added based on feedback of the players. Claiming that is absolutely nothing is ridiculous.

Maybe. But the recent feature pack was a big let down. Everyone and his dog were talking about something massive coming to WvW. When we found out we were jjust getting commander tag color changes, alot of us got saddened.

I don’t understand this recent trend in crowdfunding threads. If you actually tried it, it would go down like this.

Step 1 : Player creates kickstarter campaign telling ANet what to do, and how much money it will cost
Step 2 : Kickstarter deletes campaign because player cannot request funding on belhalf of ANet

you want to crowdfund something you should pay the massive amount of wvw players/guilds that have quit over stagnant content to come back.

it wont matter if anet give us 200 new maps, wvw is about the players as much as the content and i think its pretty safe to say that a lottt of wvw players have already quit….

I would pay $60 for a WvW expansion and feature update given they dont do stupid kitten like remove white swords

lordkrall.7241:

Why do people always ignore all the changes/additions to WvW when they talk about development?

Claiming we have had absolutely nothing for WvW is blatant lying.

While yes it is a lie, it is not a blatant lie.

We have gotten changed borderlands.

And this was all related more towards there push away from badly balanced underwater combat and thus they used it to bring back the orb buff in a new way that was harder to hack.

We have gotten a progression system.
We have gotten additions to said progression system.

And this chased away how many players for it being character bound at the start? Was not well thought out when added and took them over a year to fix and then start progressing.

We have gotten a completely new map.

No they added a new PvP map, yes it has the WvW setup, but it is not a new WvW map. I did not see a Borderland change, I did not see EBG change. So I don’t remember any new map for WvW. I will agree a they added a new large-scale PvP map that is more benefitted to the PvP players who want to karma and badge farm for their legendary though.

We have gotten a overhauled queuing system.

This I am going to call bullcrap on, they fixed a broken q system that was not working. Was not new was not overhauled, it was fixed becuase it was not working as intended.

We have gotten new ways to fight and defend.

This is about the only one I can fully agree with you on, the traps were a nice addition. If you were referring to something else… I don’t see it, still is zerg vs zerg to win.

lordkrall.7241:

All these things have been added based on feedback of the players. Claiming that is absolutely nothing is ridiculous.

This is where you were wrong less then half of what you posted was due to player feedback. The rank system was their own design, a lot of players wanted it removed or changed and thus quit becuase of it that I knew in the first few weeks since they wouldn’t change it to account bound since they thought it was more propper they way they had it. While yes, the players wanted a reward system, they never asked for a rank system. Secondly the que system was kittened about being broken for nearly a year before they fixed it, it was more done due to it becoming a major issue as that was when WvW was at the peak of life in the game, so if they didn’t fix it then they would have started losing players. The change of borderlands… none was done by player feedback in the end, it was done to fix stuff they couldn’t balance, aka orb hacking and underwater combat. (Yes there is still water but no longer is the map 35% water it is now at between 5-10% water (forgot the exact new number) thus they removed the lake and added a new orb-like buff.) The new map was wanted but I see it as a failure, if I want to level a toon yeah I am in there, otherwise I see nothing to do other then zerg snipe since it is 75% up levels in there on the karma train to get XP and karma and badges and the rest are trying to get badges for their next legendary it feels like. So the only success I really see is traps and that I will agree was from feedback.

I would throw down $50 if it helped, I really would