Culling and Thieves

Culling and Thieves

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Posted by: Helcor.9527

Helcor.9527

I play a lot of WvW. I rarely die but when I do its 95% of the time by a thief. What usually happens is this…Im kicking kitten im down. Out of no where within a second or 2 im down without ever seeing them. Is this a culling issue? Or do thieves get to stay in stealth constantly with no problems?

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Posted by: Stiv.1820

Stiv.1820

Ancient Thief culling abuse secret:

1) Find zerg
2) B-Venom
3) Stealth-Heal
4) Shadowstep into zerg
5) Find Target – Wait for stealth to end
6) MugSteal+C&D+BackStab+Haste+Kill+HasteStomp+SpamLootKey
7) ShadowReturn
8) Shadow refuge
9) Kaiser soze

Target can be 2100 units away and they will never see you if the zerg is big enough.

Fix culling and the Thief probably can’t even haste stomp and will die from one knockback/knockdown.

(edited by Stiv.1820)

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Posted by: The Mexican Cookie.3690

The Mexican Cookie.3690

Rendering with thieves is pretty lame. Other night a thief got off an entire dagger storm before he actually rendered. However, this can happen with pretty much any profession, thieves are just more problematic due to being able to initiate from stealth.

>Complaint coming from a thief player.

#LoveArrows2013, never forget.

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Posted by: Helcor.9527

Helcor.9527

Thanks for the replies. I thought that it was probably the culling issue rather than thieves needing a nerf. Its just really annoying.

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Posted by: Marlinn.6428

Marlinn.6428

I roam alot as an elementalist, and quite often meet our favorite game type: Backstab thieves! However, while I do get killed from time to time, I think I’ve gotten a quite good ratio of killing them. (sadly most dissapear and run away with this 10% hp & cloak trait or whatever it is)

But this is what I do. I’m a staff using elementalist, because I enjoy playing more with it & I can solo camps easier with them then d/d. Fighting thieves with d/d is probably easier though. Back to the point, the first thing that happens is a massive spike of about 8k dmg (yes really it’s never alot more) from steal + C&D. At this point I’ve actually build up a reflex to press C (custom for lightning flash) and teleport away. Immediety switch to water, and dodging for health. At this point I usualy have around 60-70% hp left. Use frozen ground and ice speak beneath myself. More experienced thieves either run or choose to hide longer at this point. After this it’ll be easy, the thief is frozen for a nice while and even if he does manage to get it off, he’ll have taken so much damage (you keep AoE’ing, obviously) that he will be able to kill you unless you screw up royally.

I think in the end the most important step is to get away immedietly at the start of the chain. Most beginner thieves think they got you, even if you teleport away (since your around 50% hp or lower), which is for the better because you can destroy them easiely after. Good luck all

This obviously does not fix Stiv’s tactic but if the thief can’t do his chain, the culling won’t help him

Commander at the Farshiverpeaks

(edited by Marlinn.6428)