Guild Wars 2

Hey guys, figured I’d try to get a thread about this match going. Good luck to all parties involved, but Darkhaven is going to win.

Current score:

It was fun while it lasted! Guess I’ll have to wait 6 days to play wvw again…

Indeed you will, but we’re fighting for that orb + keep until the last man.

Hard to fight on 4 zones when all but 1 major WvW guild left to get carried elsewhere.

Don’t be so sure of yourself. We snatched that orb right out from under your nose, and we will do it again!

All right, Darkhaven. Let’s pull this back together. No reason to get complacent until we reach the top.

We fall no further!

Looking forward to a good match, AR and FC.

Shame that the orb in FC borderlands either was exploited or bugged (intentionally or not, no idea), as right after it was picked up by Darkhaven it completely disappeared from our map, and the next time we saw it it was safely ensconced in Dreaming Bay. We were a little annoyed by that, kept us from making a possible last minute save.

Cael.2641:

Looking forward to a good match, AR and FC.

Nope. Match is already over, you win. Might as well go play something else for a week. Enjoy the free victory.

Also as for the orb, its a known bug. When someone drops the orb, and someone else picks it up, it does not reappear on the map. So it is more likely not someone hacking.

Let’s go Fergy-Baby. All those in Kaineng are pulling for you. No hard feelings. YOU CAN DO IT!!!

Yeah go Fergy! Pull a Kaineng and upset this “Darkhaven”

FC’s got quitters and no coordination
Darkhaven’s got numbers.
Anvil Rock’s got pretty good coordination but they need more active guilds on that server tbh.

Fergy’s quitters mainly come from the lack of coordination. Tonight was a good example where we had a decent amount on our borderlands, only to have it lost while idiots were throwing themselves at Dreaming Bay while our supply lines were being cut off, causing us to lose the Garrison and Ethron Hills as well…

bladie.5084:

FC’s got quitters and no coordination
Darkhaven’s got numbers.
Anvil Rock’s got pretty good coordination but they need more active guilds on that server tbh.

Darkhaven has a very strong night time organization. I know it’s tempting to say that when someone takes the entire map, it’s all because of numbers — and that can be true. In this case though, Darkhaven is extremely organized during the night. Though it’s fair to say we’re disorganized during the day.

You have to realize that DH is more WvW oriented then FC and AR. Some specific guilds are carrying FC and AR. And when i say some i mean 2 or 5. Assuming all three servers have quitters right? So lets assume all three server have the equal amount of quitters. But because DH has more guilds or players that are more into WvWvW, they can just hop in right away when others are leaving. This does not happen in FC. Once the quitters quit, we don’t have any other players coming in to take their spots. Hence why our queues are almost non existence (after 2 hours of reset). And you just have to consider the fact that DH is a bigger population then FC.

When I logged in I was surprised to see my server, Fergs, owning most of the map. An hour later this became a very even matchup with all three guilds holding onto their natural thirds in each of the four maps.

This was exactly what I was hoping for as last week when Fergs owned the whole map, it got pretty boring, apart from some Kaineng pluck. The next few hours were great though as instead of a single zerg castle round robin run, there was sustained fighting and castle holding on multiple fronts. Awesome!

Then Darkhaven’s numbers showed as well as their in guild coordination. A small example of this is as a thief I like to get Scorpion Wire to pull enemy ranged off battlements followed by Devourers Venom to stop them running back in. Tried this multiple times and there just wasn’t enough follow up to get the kill. I’m a solo unguilded player so that’s what I get I suppose. Got yanked off the battlements twice by a big Darkhaven guild on the other hand and was dead before I hit the ground.

Now the map belongs to Darkhaven it’s been fun doing solo hit n runs. Probably more fun than dominating last week actually.

I agree, Bladie. All I’m saying is that aside from our numbers advantage, we also do enjoy strong night time organization IMO.

Please refrain from saying we won already. That was not the case last week when we won the first day last week…

I’m sure good organization expedites the assimilation of opposing colors, but it is just redundant when you have 50 people vs a dozen.

It is a bit sad that the tiers of servers have such large disparities; it doesn’t bode well considering matchmaking seems to have been designed to force constant flux between brackets.

About the orb, it almost always vanishes from the map after being dropped. After a couple drops it can despawn completely and so respawn at top – its also very hard to tell whether it vanished or someone picked it up.

A great match should have been Borlis Pass, FC, and AR. But that won’t happen because then Devona and Kaineng is stuck fighting a server 4-5 tier ahead of them. The imbalanceness. :9

Setis.4390:

Shame that the orb in FC borderlands either was exploited or bugged (intentionally or not, no idea), as right after it was picked up by Darkhaven it completely disappeared from our map, and the next time we saw it it was safely ensconced in Dreaming Bay. We were a little annoyed by that, kept us from making a possible last minute save.

I was the commander of the Darkhaven force that took that orb. Your defenders downed or killed our original orb carrier. When someone else picked up the orb up it disappeared from our map as well as yours. I had to stand at the orb carrier and repeatedly tell my own people that we still had the orb, and to stack on me for the escort run to DB.

A bug certainly, but not one we knew about or intentionally exploited.

bladie.5084:

A great match should have been Borlis Pass, FC, and AR. But that won’t happen because then Devona and Kaineng is stuck fighting a server 4-5 tier ahead of them. The imbalanceness. :9

I want that match. It would be beautiful. Someone want to take a dive and play Devona and Kaineng and not be mean? Play nice and act sort of like Ferg or Borlis and it will be almost fair. Then we can have fun times at our tier. eh? eh? Come on Anet, make it happen.

Arius.7031:

I agree, Bladie. All I’m saying is that aside from our numbers advantage, we also do enjoy strong night time organization IMO.

Its only the numbers that matter. You forget that we’ve heard this song before from Yak’s Bend and NSP. “We’re better organized and skilled” its not numbers.

What I hope is becoming clear to servers above Anvil Rock. There is a massive gap in WvV participation when you come down to this tier.

If all goes as the past 3 match-ups have gone, DH should win by a massive score 200k+ due simply to numbers, if it isnt’ clear now wait till Monday when folks go back to work and WvW is virtually empty except for prime time hours.

-K

Kodiack.2783:

Arius.7031:

I agree, Bladie. All I’m saying is that aside from our numbers advantage, we also do enjoy strong night time organization IMO.

Its only the numbers that matter. You forget that we’ve heard this song before from Yak’s Bend and NSP. “We’re better organized and skilled” its not numbers.

What I hope is becoming clear to servers above Anvil Rock. There is a massive gap in WvV participation when you come down to this tier.

If all goes as the past 3 match-ups have gone, DH should win by a massive score 200k+ due simply to numbers, if it isnt’ clear now wait till Monday when folks go back to work and WvW is virtually empty except for prime time hours.

-K

You seem to misunderstand me, I’m not claiming we don’t have numbers as an advantage, I’m saying we have massive organization at night time as well. The only reason I even said that, was because the comment I was responding to seemed to suggest that Darkhaven does not have organization. Quite the opposite is true, we’re capable of taking on larger forces during the night time, as we demonstrated again and again in our past two matches.

My point was that you don’t need organization or skill, you have numbers. You will not face a larger force at this tier. What you may not understand is that on this tier you are the zerg server. Nobody will ever see any organization or skill simply because all we (AR and FC ) see from you is the numbers advantage.

All week long we’re going to hear how DH has better organization or skill , but all we will ever see on the battlefield is a numbers advantage.

Take a day off from DH come over to our server for a day or two and you’ll see what we mean.

-K

Regarding the FC orb, Caliburn is telling it like it is. I was standing on the N gate ready to receive and clear it of enemies. None came. The timer clicked down to 10 minutes to reset before they got the orb home.

Last night was entertaining. I am concerned that if it stays this way it could be a boring week. I would rather AR and FC bring the pain than lay down in a fetal position. Laying down will make our guys soft and complacent.

If you guys were only aware of the beating we Darkhaven people took last week at the hands of SoR.

On top of that some of our guilds left…they are LUN-ey for doing so, but good riddance to those LUN-ey (think loony toons) guilds that left, we don’t want traitor cowards on our server anyhow. Those LUN-ey guilds aside, when the server first rolled over, we as Darkhaven we worried it would be a repeat of last week (well, some of us in Darkhaven Borderlands as we were getting double teamed because both sides wanted the orb).

So don’t give up yet, I hope this match is somewhat even…but I haven’t seen the current score. All I know is last night when I logged about 10pm CST, we were not in first place, but I saw the screen above in which we controlled almost the whole map?

Darkhaven is not some powerhouse server, 2 weeks ago we had the best matchup in wvwvw so far, but last week, well, last week sucked and as a result people xferred off our server, so I am a bit surprised how this is going so far!

Anyways, best of luck to everyone, hopefully we can have some fun!

Kodiack,

I agree with you, partially, but there are a few points that need to be made.

1. We were right there beside Anvil Rock (it was your right?) with Yak’s Bend, we know what facing overwhelming numbers is like.

2. We just faced SoR who gave us the outmanned buff pretty much at all times, yet we still know and acknowledge their superior organization.

3. I’m not trying to brag or be adversarial. The only thing I’m trying to get out there is that Dh is not completely disorganized — we’re not bad at night time.

Slartibartfast.2170:

If you guys were only aware of the beating we Darkhaven people took last week at the hands of SoR.

So don’t give up yet, I hope this match is somewhat even…but I haven’t seen the current score. All I know is last night when I logged about 10pm CST, we were not in first place, but I saw the screen above in which we controlled almost the whole map?

Darkhaven is not some powerhouse server, 2 weeks ago we had the best matchup in wvwvw so far, but last week, well, last week sucked and as a result people xferred off our server, so I am a bit surprised how this is going so far!

Anyways, best of luck to everyone, hopefully we can have some fun!

A few things.

-This bracket isn’t like your last bracket. You’ll soon figure that out.
-This bracket is competitive for about 5-6 hours during prime time.
-Nobody wants to hear your servers drama about how you are making things work even though you lost guilds, we’ve heard it before.
-We’ll have fun, it just wont’ be the type of fun you had in the previous bracket.

Kodiack.2783:

A few things.

-This bracket isn’t like your last bracket. You’ll soon figure that out.
-This bracket is competitive for about 5-6 hours during prime time.
-Nobody wants to hear your servers drama about how you are making things work even though you lost guilds, we’ve heard it before.
-We’ll have fun, it just wont’ be the type of fun you had in the previous bracket.

Kodiack, with all due respect, your bad attitude is not necessary. Anvil Rock is not the only server ever to be hugely outnumbered, we’ve had it the same as you have. I get that it’s frustrating, and that you’re frustrated, that does not mean that you need to act rudely. We cannot help that you guys are undermanned. The guy you quoted was just meaning to say that you can either give up, or try to get your act together, that’s your choice.

Also, if any Anvil Rock person in EB sees this, <3. I’m the Mesmer who has been sleeping/dancing with y’all :P.

last night experience…

i started playing around 10pm pst.

got online we had a +400 score, great, but someone told me that we lost for a few hours during the day. (i can understand why)

i got my crew together, we had around 40 people all 4 maps combined, we splited into 2 zergs, 1 zerg with 30, 1 with 10.

i cleared fergie’s map under 1 hour with 30 people and was faced with around 20 people opposition. what i have noticed is that, not to sound offending, you guys dont pvp much do you? my 5 man special team can run over your 15 man main zerg. a suggestion for your players, spvp moar?

then i joined the fight in anvil and soon enough we got your map…

then it was a quest to get +695… took us 1 hour ish and finially got to +690… but people were ninjaing our camps on all 4 maps it was pain… so i settled at +690…

then we went jumping puzzles and stuff like spawn camping for a few hours kept at least +650…

around 6am pst, red and blue both showing more people in numbers than us, i’d say 1:1.5… but to be honest, numbers dont count. so we kept the score around +630ish til 10am pst..

-half naked norn

I’m looking forward to hitting WvW after I can escape this pesky work nonsense. I’m really hoping to see no server has already packed up and waved the flag of surrender. Hoping to see some action later.

as of 10:19am pst, fergies out man us 3:1 at db, im going to sleep~~

so yeah, i definately dont have the numbers =D

Anvil Rock is getting smashed again? Seems like you are going for the lowest tier next week) What excuses will you make now? Darkheaven has hacked all your orbs, or they vastly outnumber you?

There is basically only one organized guild.. or two carrying the entire server of Anvil Rock at the moment. People have to sleep at some point. Everyone transferred off the server over the past three weeks against Yaks Bend and Northern Shiverpeaks. At this rate you are right, Anvil Rock will be in the bottom tier and only random pugs will be doing WvW on it.

Caliburn.1845:

Setis.4390:

Shame that the orb in FC borderlands either was exploited or bugged (intentionally or not, no idea), as right after it was picked up by Darkhaven it completely disappeared from our map, and the next time we saw it it was safely ensconced in Dreaming Bay. We were a little annoyed by that, kept us from making a possible last minute save.

I was the commander of the Darkhaven force that took that orb. Your defenders downed or killed our original orb carrier. When someone else picked up the orb up it disappeared from our map as well as yours. I had to stand at the orb carrier and repeatedly tell my own people that we still had the orb, and to stack on me for the escort run to DB.

A bug certainly, but not one we knew about or intentionally exploited.

Good to know, I appreciate the report of what happened from your side. Bugs sucks for everyone.

I will admit Darkhaven has more people on our server and we have more wvw players, and last night was the most players I have ever seen on at one time on our server (all but one borderland had a queue) but for most of the night we seemed to be facing good numbers but the huge advantage came when we were able to get Rethesis [RE] in eternal battleground in force so we were much more organized than earlier in the night where we went below +160 points and once we started to push hard I noticed people giving up and no long trying adn leaving the game. If you guys didn’t lose heart we would have had at least a ton more trouble taking everything if not not able to. Don’t lose heart in this week yet Anvil Rock and Fergies, you two can learn from this fight and who knows maybe you guys will come from behind and beat us. good luck and good fight to you all

edit; btw I do not mean to say [RE] was alone in there and deserves all the credit, just meant to say we were able to rally behind a guild and commander Ethersin and not run around like chickens with their heads cut off like we seemed to be doing at the beginning of this match up

Macovan.3650:

Anvil Rock is getting smashed again? Seems like you are going for the lowest tier next week) What excuses will you make now? Darkheaven has hacked all your orbs, or they vastly outnumber you?

We’re in 3rd place… just like NSP is in their bracket. The difference is that we never bragged about how awesome our organization and skills were.

I mean how is it working out for you guys?

Arius.7031:

Kodiack.2783:

A few things.

-This bracket isn’t like your last bracket. You’ll soon figure that out.
-This bracket is competitive for about 5-6 hours during prime time.
-Nobody wants to hear your servers drama about how you are making things work even though you lost guilds, we’ve heard it before.
-We’ll have fun, it just wont’ be the type of fun you had in the previous bracket.

Kodiack, with all due respect, your bad attitude is not necessary. Anvil Rock is not the only server ever to be hugely outnumbered, we’ve had it the same as you have. I get that it’s frustrating, and that you’re frustrated, that does not mean that you need to act rudely. We cannot help that you guys are undermanned. The guy you quoted was just meaning to say that you can either give up, or try to get your act together, that’s your choice.

Also, if any Anvil Rock person in EB sees this, <3. I’m the Mesmer who has been sleeping/dancing with y’all :P.

Once again, we have someone from the server with the numbers advantage telling Anvil Rock that only if we got our act together we would stand a chance. This is the 4th week in a row we’ve had the pleasure of being lectured by a server that does nothing but win by numbers alone. Its getting old and tiresome.

-K

Kodiack.2783:

Macovan.3650:

Anvil Rock is getting smashed again? Seems like you are going for the lowest tier next week) What excuses will you make now? Darkheaven has hacked all your orbs, or they vastly outnumber you?

We’re in 3rd place… just like NSP is in their bracket. The difference is that we never bragged about how awesome our organization and skills were.

I mean how is it working out for you guys?

They are writing all these threads about being hacked, personally I’m almost in tears

To be fair, when we get thrown down to the last tier I expect there will be threads about how Anvil Rock has rallied together and become a tight elite fighting unit. If you are going to kick the tar out of a broken down hobo, you might as well feel good about your self doing it.

But after a month of patronizing suggestions on how to win, what is one more week?

Here is a little history lesson for you pros in Darkhaven.

Week 1 we were stuck with Yaks’ Bend, currently ranked 13th.
Week 2-3 we were stuck with NSP, currently ranked 15th.

So excuse us in Anvil Rock if we aren’t impressed with your virtual domination of the map. What your fighting now are the die hards that wont’ quit and jump ship to a winning server.

Here’s another tip. You’re bragging about beating up on the lower 25% of the entire server list. Nobody is impressed.

-K

The die hard members of Anvil Rock, while often cursing at the computer screen, will never submit, and continue to fight regardless of chance of victory. Some of us are just too darn stubborn to quit, or high tail it to a server with easier odds.

Mmm, to all those NSP who are still in this thread making comments you can leave now. Incase you didn’t notice or recall, as it was posted less than a week ago. One of our big numbered WvW guilds split off.

Last few weeks yes there were some un-satisfactory events that happened. Right now we’re not blaming anyone on anything but are going yet again through a re-structure, of which I recall you all had to do once, we’re going through it multiple times so just keep you mouth shut unless you have something proactive to say.

@Macovan you never once posted anything until now? Why?
@Stormcycle Come on man, I’ve seen most your posts you should know what’s going on…

went to sleep with a fully-fortified keep and an orb on darkhaven’s map, many of us needing sleep also.

Woke up to 0 orbs, no keeps and dominant map being fully fortified.

Yet another timezone warfare story /shrug We did great while we were all focusing the limited #‘s of dedicated wvw’ers on one map, though. ninja’d the orb, held our ground again and again. No complaints here.

Libalaw.5218:

@Macovan you never once posted anything until now? Why?

I’m not really a heavy forum user, but I had 24 posts before this last one that you was responding to. If you don’t see them when clicking on “Show all posts by user”, than you are blind. It is clearly not my first post.

Kodiack.2783:

We’re in 3rd place… just like NSP is in their bracket. The difference is that we never bragged about how awesome our organization and skills were.

I mean how is it working out for you guys?

Looking at the latest stats of AR vs DH vs FC your score is 3 times less than that of DH and it hasn’t even been 24 hours yet since the servers’ change. Yes, NSP is currently the 3rd place in NSP vs YB vs SoR but the scores are really close, and at the moment we are actually leading in captured points. There can be possible change in positions pretty soon.

@Stormcycle
I agree with you needing guilds.
An all large guilds should join Darkhaven, because we can that much about our team.
Unlike other servers, we DO care and that is what Darkhaven is all about it.

I’m from Darkhaven and I already hate this matchup. There’s no challenge for us. Both opposing servers have few people, are mostly unorganized, and I’ve seen very little individual skill.

As far as us being unorganized, that’s not the case at all. We have a lot of room for improvement there, but our shortcomings are mostly a lack of people who participate in WvW (we can only field organized groups in 2, maybe 3 of the maps during peak). Our organization has improved vastly since we last played with Anvil Rock against Yak’s Bend three match-ups ago. Last week was a joke and had nothing to do with organization on any of the servers. Once it got to mid-week, the fair-weather WvW players just didn’t show up for either Darkhaven or Sorrow’s Furnace.

Stormcycle.4208:

GavinGoodrich.1382:

went to sleep with a fully-fortified keep and an orb on darkhaven’s map, many of us needing sleep also.

Woke up to 0 orbs, no keeps and dominant map being fully fortified.

Yet another timezone warfare story /shrug We did great while we were all focusing the limited #‘s of dedicated wvw’ers on one map, though. ninja’d the orb, held our ground again and again. No complaints here.

Last night was the most fun WvW night I had in three weeks from my perspective, it was pretty back and forth most of the night. Towards the end you could see the time zone difference as Fergusons Crossing started logging and getting taken over. We held a lot of territory and beat back Darkhaven into their garrison repeatedly, fighting them on open fields and owning them for the most part wherever we went. But we are not androids, and humans require sleepy time. At this point I am just used to waking up to a huge score difference from being night capped. Anvil Rock doesn’t have a night crew. If only we could convince some large NA guilds and Oceanic/European/Asian guilds to move to our server we would be very competitive. But it seems everyone gravitates to the upper mid to top tier servers.

well, whats anvil has to offer for the guilds?

our night crew is only 30-40 people on entire server!!! ur day crew has way more people than us, quite a badge collecting fest. really.

iii.3905:

Stormcycle.4208:

GavinGoodrich.1382:

went to sleep with a fully-fortified keep and an orb on darkhaven’s map, many of us needing sleep also.

Woke up to 0 orbs, no keeps and dominant map being fully fortified.

Yet another timezone warfare story /shrug We did great while we were all focusing the limited #‘s of dedicated wvw’ers on one map, though. ninja’d the orb, held our ground again and again. No complaints here.

Last night was the most fun WvW night I had in three weeks from my perspective, it was pretty back and forth most of the night. Towards the end you could see the time zone difference as Fergusons Crossing started logging and getting taken over. We held a lot of territory and beat back Darkhaven into their garrison repeatedly, fighting them on open fields and owning them for the most part wherever we went. But we are not androids, and humans require sleepy time. At this point I am just used to waking up to a huge score difference from being night capped. Anvil Rock doesn’t have a night crew. If only we could convince some large NA guilds and Oceanic/European/Asian guilds to move to our server we would be very competitive. But it seems everyone gravitates to the upper mid to top tier servers.

well, whats anvil has to offer for the guilds?

our night crew is only 30-40 people on entire server!!! ur day crew has way more people than us, quite a badge collecting fest. really.

Oh nevermind

Two weeks ago DH was PvEing through the maps at night against SR and SoR. They made it second after SR with only 2k difference.

Last week same matchup and DH thought all they need to do is improving their daytime performance to win that round. While SR gave up on the DH nightzerg SoR pushed back. Hard.

Result was not only that DH gave up after facing reasonable resistance, on top of it certain individuals spread false rumors about guild transfers and hacking. And here, not 24h after they were beaten down one tier the same folks are padding themselves on their shoulders again. Some of DH really need to learn some diginity.

Aww, don’t give up. A lot can happen in a week. It’s more fun this way.
Like today in Anvil Rock borderlands, Anvil pushed and pushed and took back their garrison and the top half of the map and it was a lot of fun trying to push them back. My hat goes off to those stubborn Anvil Rockers that beat us back. Was a good fight.