Guild Wars 2

Why anet keeps trying to force players playing in that borderland. No one goes there, only servers that are ppt mentality like it because it’s easy to defend a borderland that has no enemies.
Plz remove this borderland since no one takes it seriously, name it heart of the mists 2…
Btw i doubt people voted for it because the community made a questionnaire about it and it turned out 75% was agains’t deserted bl

Please leave in Desert Borderlands so players can continue to produce epic gameplay content such as this video.

Hello,

DBL has its flaws and qualities. Some love it, some don’t. It’s different from ABL and EBG for sure.

Now, there’s been an official poll long ago. Here’s the result.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

The poll has ended! After removing all votes for “Don’t Count My Vote” the final results are:

65.5% No: The Desert Borderland map should continue to be supported.
34.5% Yes: The Desert Borderland map should be permanently disabled.

This means that the Desert Borderlands map will continue to be supported. Next, the Mixed Borderlands poll will be re-run to determine how the Desert Borderlands map will re-enter play. Thank you to everyone who voted!

So… I hope it clears your doubts. For memory, the answer “Yes : The Desert Borderland map should be permanently disabled” needed 75% vote to be enforced. There’s been bunches of threads and posts about polls’ accuracy and validity.

So…. Maybe it’s time to let go of DBL ranting, go back to ABL or EBG and do what you enjoy to do, while leaving those who like DBL enjoy it.

I think leaving it how it is to appease those who really like playing there is fine. I personally think the map is pretty to look at, but wildly impractical. Actually trying to play there is terrible because of the gimmicky stuff in the center area of the map where there is the crippling/stealth/stuff popping up out of the ground. That part of the map is the absolute worst to me and it alone keeps me from going there.

There are other issues with the map like the crazy cliffs you can get stuck on with no way back up besides waypointing, dying, or getting portaled.

Honestly, I’m just glad to have 2 alpine maps and EBG still in tact. Every time I’ve tried to go to DBL map, there is no one to fight and all we do is PPT there. So far, that has been my experience in T2, T3, and T4. I don’t foresee myself being back in T1 any time soon lol.

ThomasC.1056:

Hello,

DBL has its flaws and qualities. Some love it, some don’t. It’s different from ABL and EBG for sure.

Now, there’s been an official poll long ago. Here’s the result.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

The poll has ended! After removing all votes for “Don’t Count My Vote” the final results are:

65.5% No: The Desert Borderland map should continue to be supported.
34.5% Yes: The Desert Borderland map should be permanently disabled.

This means that the Desert Borderlands map will continue to be supported. Next, the Mixed Borderlands poll will be re-run to determine how the Desert Borderlands map will re-enter play. Thank you to everyone who voted!

So… I hope it clears your doubts. For memory, the answer “Yes : The Desert Borderland map should be permanently disabled” needed 75% vote to be enforced. There’s been bunches of threads and posts about polls’ accuracy and validity.

So…. Maybe it’s time to let go of DBL ranting, go back to ABL or EBG and do what you enjoy to do, while leaving those who like DBL enjoy it.

The way that crap poll was worded you’d think they’d do something with the deserted bl’s like make some improvements. little has been done and the map is trash. No blood lust still lol. I mean, barely anyone plays the map just get rid of it.

jamesdolla.3954:

The way that crap poll was worded you’d think they’d do something with the deserted bl’s like make some improvements. little has been done and the map is trash. No blood lust still lol. I mean, barely anyone plays the map just get rid of it.

Quite a bit was done to improve it but still… There are several simple things they could do to improve it further:

- Delete the pointless stealth fog around garri. All it does is cause heavy framerate dips. Spikes are enough.
- Clear out the central area and put bloodlust caps there.
- Make an exit south of main spawn straight into the northern camp.
- Make jump pads or something in garrison that leap you half the distance to hill/bay

Something that would make it a little bit more tolerable.

But given the fact nothing has been done since that overhaul, I think they have tossed it completely aside. We’re stuck with it and it’s our own fault. For the record I was one of those that voted to delete it despite Anets threats of “oh but we’re never gonna make another map if you vote no”. Most of us that played it more than a glance knew what was wrong. It’s broken. It cant be fixed. It doesnt follow the WvW standards that Anet set themselves with ABL and EB, ie keeps and towers are distanced to each other just right so that there is a constant threat and momentum of wanting to cap them.

i would be all for getting rid of the mad until they fix it up and get it up to par but it seems like we got 1 map that’s still in beta for 1 year +.

jamesdolla.3954:

i would be all for getting rid of the mad until they fix it up and get it up to par but it seems like we got 1 map that’s still in beta for 1 year +.

We have bugs in this game that are over 4 years old. If you stop to think I guess GW2 never left it’s beta phase.

Jeknar.6184:

We have bugs in this game that are over 4 years old. If you stop to think I guess GW2 never left it’s beta phase.

True story. But as we’ve also seen in the past 4 years of other MMOs coming out and people “quitting GW2” to go play them, you get to see those same people return because GW2 is still the best MMO out currently lol. Has its issues for sure, but it is far better to play than any alternative out right now.

Chaba.5410:

Please leave in Desert Borderlands so players can continue to produce epic gameplay content such as this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_SsifpEgMg

lol This is the first thing I’ve seen in a loooooong time that makes me want to reinstall the game… just wow. However, I do get what you’re saying; it should be fun also to used your skills the way they are meant to be used.

Chaba.5410:

Please leave in Desert Borderlands so players can continue to produce epic gameplay content such as this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_SsifpEgMg

omg ahahahaha… I watched it on repeat like 50 times. So far best video of 2017 imo.

It’s pretty fun map, I can’t imagine how people who are playing since start aren’t fed up with alpine maps already. Borderlands is really nice and with some tweaking it would be an awesome map. Dropping it completely would be a big mistake.
When it got removed first time I was really bummed out because it was one of the best looking maps in game and I didn’t have chance to properly explore and play it.

When I go roam there, people seek me out to stop me and back cap objectives behind me as soon as RI is up. Always finding fights.

XTR.9604:

Chaba.5410:

Please leave in Desert Borderlands so players can continue to produce epic gameplay content such as this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_SsifpEgMg

omg ahahahaha… I watched it on repeat like 50 times. So far best video of 2017 imo.

There’s also the TC mesmer’s POV video available of this event now.

Chaba.5410:

XTR.9604:

Chaba.5410:

Please leave in Desert Borderlands so players can continue to produce epic gameplay content such as this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_SsifpEgMg

omg ahahahaha… I watched it on repeat like 50 times. So far best video of 2017 imo.

There’s also the TC mesmer’s POV video available of this event now.

Hesacon.8735:

Chaba.5410:

XTR.9604:

Chaba.5410:

Please leave in Desert Borderlands so players can continue to produce epic gameplay content such as this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_SsifpEgMg

omg ahahahaha… I watched it on repeat like 50 times. So far best video of 2017 imo.

There’s also the TC mesmer’s POV video available of this event now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3uszzyx84U

I really don’t know how anyone can say remove Desert BL. Look at all the enemies in these videos and they’re not PPTing.

martin.1653:

It’s pretty fun map, I can’t imagine how people who are playing since start aren’t fed up with alpine maps already. Borderlands is really nice and with some tweaking it would be an awesome map. Dropping it completely would be a big mistake.

The desert borderlands has lots of flaws (like still being able to exploit into the keeps…), but even if those get fixed people still won’t like it. I find the biggest opponents of DBL are zerglings who don’t like the extra effects (cripple, etc) or the length of the map. Alpine by comparison is very omniblob-friendly due to the proximity of waypoints to objectives and the general shape of the map.

Presumably Anet has the actual data regarding map use. If they see the alpines getting way more play, then I can’t imagine they’ll just let that sit without doing something about it (even if that’s just another poll to measure what people think).

Until then, just use a different map. I’ve never felt “forced” to use it, so don’t.

Choppy.4183:

Until then, just use a different map. I’ve never felt “forced” to use it, so don’t.

Some people can’t suffer the mere existence of DBL I guess…

Choppy.4183:

Presumably Anet has the actual data regarding map use. If they see the alpines getting way more play, then I can’t imagine they’ll just let that sit without doing something about it (even if that’s just another poll to measure what people think).

Until then, just use a different map. I’ve never felt “forced” to use it, so don’t.

Uh…

They have let us sit with it. We can get the kill stats from the API, ie overall activity. An example from the matchup start 25th nov:

(EU in order of tiers)
60.156 26.591 7.112 31.314
42.152 24.098 8.456 20.705
39.357 18.029 7.866 15.584
33.595 21.943 9.164 15.932
47.353 12.156 6.794 19.740

(NA in order of tiers)
55.224 18.031 10.179 14.646
38.229 11.949 4.218 27.511
51.927 18.265 8.469 14.567
59.774 14.979 7.556 16.068

Take a wild guess which is EB, which is desert and which are the two alpines. No really, guess. I wont spoil it.

Dawdler.8521:

Choppy.4183:

Presumably Anet has the actual data regarding map use. If they see the alpines getting way more play, then I can’t imagine they’ll just let that sit without doing something about it (even if that’s just another poll to measure what people think).

Until then, just use a different map. I’ve never felt “forced” to use it, so don’t.

Uh…

They have let us sit with it. We can get the kill stats from the API, ie overall activity. An example from the matchup start 25th nov:

(EU in order of tiers)
60.156 26.591 7.112 31.314
42.152 24.098 8.456 20.705
39.357 18.029 7.866 15.584
33.595 21.943 9.164 15.932
47.353 12.156 6.794 19.740

(NA in order of tiers)
55.224 18.031 10.179 14.646
38.229 11.949 4.218 27.511
51.927 18.265 8.469 14.567
59.774 14.979 7.556 16.068

Take a wild guess which is EB, which is desert and which are the two alpines. No really, guess. I wont spoil it.

Now remove how many of those deaths were from falling and someone failing at grabbing an upgraded camp.

Chaba.5410:

Please leave in Desert Borderlands so players can continue to produce epic gameplay content such as this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_SsifpEgMg

LMAO thats as funny as Helseths portal to his own base in spvp

Tyrx.2471:

I find the biggest opponents of DBL are zerglings who don’t like the extra effects (cripple, etc) or the length of the map. Alpine by comparison is very omniblob-friendly due to the proximity of waypoints to objectives and the general shape of the map.

I can imagine that the shape and design of desert borderlands heavily discourages fighting. How do you fight someone on zig-zagging staircase? How do you scout someone moving there? Does the map have any easily recognizable places one can refer to in chat?

Dawdler.8521:

Choppy.4183:

Presumably Anet has the actual data regarding map use. If they see the alpines getting way more play, then I can’t imagine they’ll just let that sit without doing something about it (even if that’s just another poll to measure what people think).

Until then, just use a different map. I’ve never felt “forced” to use it, so don’t.

Uh…

They have let us sit with it. We can get the kill stats from the API, ie overall activity. An example from the matchup start 25th nov:

(EU in order of tiers)
60.156 26.591 7.112 31.314
42.152 24.098 8.456 20.705
39.357 18.029 7.866 15.584
33.595 21.943 9.164 15.932
47.353 12.156 6.794 19.740

(NA in order of tiers)
55.224 18.031 10.179 14.646
38.229 11.949 4.218 27.511
51.927 18.265 8.469 14.567
59.774 14.979 7.556 16.068

Take a wild guess which is EB, which is desert and which are the two alpines. No really, guess. I wont spoil it.

If we are to take these numbers to heart we should just remove all borderlands and only have EBG…

I like the desert BL – nothing wrong with it at all. It is a great place to fight with many chokes to use, do it is easier to string out blobs and kill them with a smaller force. It is also easier to get around Sentries, etc. as it is not as linear and boring as ABL or EBG.

Learn to play the BL before complaining about it.

Yes, they need to fix some of the flaws but there are flaws in every BL

I just wish they would delete or fix the OP AC’s shooting through walls, etc. first.

You do not have to come to the Red BL. But you will miss epic fights like this then!

Chaba.5410:

Hesacon.8735:

Chaba.5410:

XTR.9604:

Chaba.5410:

Please leave in Desert Borderlands so players can continue to produce epic gameplay content such as this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_SsifpEgMg

omg ahahahaha… I watched it on repeat like 50 times. So far best video of 2017 imo.

There’s also the TC mesmer’s POV video available of this event now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3uszzyx84U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDnPRfAquTs

I really don’t know how anyone can say remove Desert BL. Look at all the enemies in these videos and they’re not PPTing.

Wow even better that the mesmer that did it had it recorded! LOL.. So good.