Guild Wars 2

Hi there all! Maybe this is a Subject that all ppl talks…but its just to boring… during the night time i dont know If vizunah Square Fr have ppl from other contries like canada that have a lots of french ppl and ppl who talks french, or maybe they dont sleep … but is just to anoying and very spendable passing the day fortifing castles and towers, and in the night The “zerglings” cap all the things just by the fact that they are many more…. Anet do you have a fix for that? because when the matches are 24 hours it passes…. but now with one week and after that 2 weeks is just getting larger the diference between the points and ppl getting bored and dont even join the WvWvW.
Dont get me Wrong im from a server that usualy are in top 3 or 4… But against Vizunah it seams that we cant do anything…. Far shiverpeaks in the last weekend manage to pass vizunah but as soon as weekend over….they dont have a chance…

ahh and desolation have a high population as well so no we are not a low poppulation server…

It’s just your server is not at his real rank for long matchup. Like you said, we are not on 24h matchup anymore. Don’t worry, things will be better soon.

Just a small example, at 1:30am in France, the map was full for Vizunah. 1:30am is not so late, we don’t need to play until 4am or 5am like rumors said.

Doesnt matter what time in the night you french recap whole maps.
People allready /afk and we cant seem to get more then 20/25 serious pvp’s inside Eternal anymore.

I dont blame you guys anymore, we can only hope to fight servers like Desolation who dont need player versus gate guilds to take lead.

Friday moment of truth, if we get matched versus VS again it might be time to /quit for the time being untill this is match making is made alot better

Your server was full, but no players in WvW. Is that our fault, if you don’t have players in WvW ?

We have a lot of dedicated players in WvW. Like Kingface said : “It’s just your server is not at his real rank for long matchup.”

Seems not all FULL servers want to be lame and cap when theri opponents sleep, ever tought about that ?

Desolation / Far Shiverpeaks both full servers, both contain hardcore WvW guilds.
Yet they dont feel the need to steal / towers / keeps.

We are not like you French, honor you opponents when they dont WvW, something French could do, they have a choice

But lets see and wait that this Friday will bring.

if its another matchup versus VS, i either stop WvW for the time being or perhaps try to get a discussion going about joining USA / Australlia / Asia players to make sure this wont happen again.

Lets wait and see what the near future brings and what needs to be done about it, 1 thing is for sure, you can ask people to skip sleep for a night to prevent this kitten.
Most dutch / scandinavian work and need to get up at 06:00 / 07:00 to go to work, maybe french has to many people living in welfare ?
Or dont need sleep ?

Either way sollutions must be found, this isnt fun for any1.

The truth is that we want to play in wuvwuv… Prove me that you have more than 10% of the time the outmaned buff and we’ll discuss. In the mean time, just shut up with your racist slurs.

There are hardcore WvW guilds on Desolation? Uh … okay.

Anyways maybe you’re forgetting that Desolation did the same NightCap stuff to weaker Servers? But in that case its their fault for not fighting back, right?

Im saying it again: Don’t get mad, get even!
(yes im from Desolation, and I do believe its up to us to fight back, not ANet’s call to implement regulations!)

Stealing tower/keeps…

No honor…

Is it our fault you can’t/don’t defend when we attack? No.

Man, wake up from your dream. This game proposes 24h/7d battles.

You are fun phara, you did same during the friday night, and I am pretty sure you would do it as soon you have an occasion.

You are just mad right now, cause you are at the bad end of the stick, I never saw you whine,when it was your server doing it.

I like how someone posted the screenshots of the week-end, carefully avoiding to post the midnight to 6.00am time when all the maps were tagged FS but showing screenshots of sunday midnight to 6.00 when it was all tagged VS.

Excuse from the player posting the screenshots, he was sleeping the week-end at this time; but obviously he wasn’t sleeping when it was VS doing it the same time sunday.

It seems honesty isn’t one of your quality.

All canadian fr players move to american server, problem solved. This is a very huge problem Anet…do something!

Every night:
http://www.kephost.com/images4/2012/9/18/a1_2012_9_18_203kfz0wyl.jpg

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Far-Shiverpeaks-proving-the-point/first#post135852

Here is the link, with some bothering time zone for FS, being carefully skipped. Wonder if someone has the missing parts, they were pretty fun and embarassing for all the whiners here.

The issue here isn’t about fair or not and who’s duty it is to fight back or conquer what.

The issue is that WvWvW should be fun – people like to play. And Vizunah is not only ruining the fun, but also ruining their reputation.

Yesterday I had a lot of time and was in WvWvW from morning to evening. It took us (FS) 5-8 hours to get the better half of FSBL back and hold the garrison. Was good fun, a hard fight and during the primetime in the evening we held it and overtook VS in points.

Then you log on in the morning and see this that VS is holding ~80% again. (See Attachment)
You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to know that couldn’t magically happen because Miraculix gave them his potion and they suddenly could best us that clearly and that it’s unlikely the same people play 24h a day.

What is the result? I do not care that we have to re-conquer it, but it’s tiresome. That’s no sportmansship, they just spit in our faces.
VS seems not able to properly score when we’re in primetime, or dominate which seems their only goal. The fights in prime are great then, we win some, we loose some and it’s fun to play.
So in order to dominate, they, however they do it, with nolifers or Canadians, who cares, just nightcap everything, trying to make as many points as possible while we fight hard to get our stuff back during days – which we usually do.

The first result is that people don’t want to play WvWvW anymore if they’re matched with VS.
They kill the fun for everyone, including them, because the next result will be that they can have the whole WvW realm and no one will fight them anymore, then they can stand on the walls all day and watch the scenery.

The second result will be that they might rank first in WvW but no one will take them into account speaking of ranks, because they’ll have that traitorous “nightcapper-reputation”.

In the end they hurt the fun, WvW and their reputation.

This is even worse than the “ghost-sieges” in AoC, if anyone knows that issue, which in the long term got a banable offense for a whole guild.

Runningwild.4692:

All canadian fr players move to american server, problem solved. This is a very huge problem Anet…do something!

Every night:
http://www.kephost.com/images4/2012/9/18/a1_2012_9_18_203kfz0wyl.jpg

There is nearly no Canadians players on VS… so that won’t solve what you believe to be a problem.

Phara Miu.2816:

Seems not all FULL servers want to be lame and cap when theri opponents sleep

How could it be lame in this particular case ? You would at least have some resistance from VS, si it would not be some kind of “stealing”..

Zep it doesnt matter if its Canandians / wellfare living easy mode pve hero’s or NASA alliens.

At this point WvW has no meaning or doesnt reflect the (real score) and even that doesnt mean much.

What means alot to us are epic battles and fair fights.
Not getting spawncamped in the morning for 2 hours retake the whole map and lose it a few hours later when we log of

The people on your server doing the night capping is giving your daytime french players a bad name.
Offcourse some dont care about reputation, but for some it means everything.

Far Shiverpeaks wants to be known as ferocious fighters with honor.
Desolation wants to be known as ferocious fighters with honor.

The famous canadians, here we go again <3

zepitou.2908:

Runningwild.4692:

All canadian fr players move to american server, problem solved. This is a very huge problem Anet…do something!

Every night:
http://www.kephost.com/images4/2012/9/18/a1_2012_9_18_203kfz0wyl.jpg

There is nearly no Canadians players on VS… so that won’t solve what you believe to be a problem.

Ok, you’re vampire or a night-hunting-zerging-droid-clone jedi warrior?

Phara Miu.2816:

We are not like you French, honor you opponents when they dont WvW, something French could do, they have a choice

But lets see and wait that this Friday will bring.

We’ll see exactly the exact same thing than every week-end.

FS will make an other night-zergling operation by waking up soon (I wonder what will be the next name :p ).
As it is late night in France when the russians are waking up soon, FS will get all the map and reinforce every towers/keeps when most of french people are sleeping (only our hardcore pool stays late and they can’t challenge a GreenFire zerg). With those reinforced positions on saturday morning, it will be very hard for Vizunah to get back objectives and Desolation won’t attack FS because they are focused on french people considering they are the “evil guys”.

Don’t blame french players for night-capping while you’re doing it when you have the opportunity.
And don’t pretend you’re not night-capping during week because of some honor thing… if you could, you would do it.

Where is the honor when claiming an alliance between Desolation and Far Shiverpeaks ?

And even if we wanted to stop night-capping players, what could we do ?
Ask people to not play the game ? Go PvE?

Well no matter how annoying their whines are on this forum, I actually dont think they have an alliance.

I mean attacking someone already weakened by another attack is fine and smart. We do same when we have the chance.

That is what make the 3 kingdoms things fun. So dont start to make lame excuses as some do

Maybe you could start a recruitment drive for players/guilds of differing time zones,seems to have worked for some servers ?

Use these and other international forums to broadcast your needs to interested parties ?

Throw out some incentives to poach much needed manpower ?

Cloak and dagger deals with nefarious sources to seal better WvW outcomes ? Politics plays a good part in conflict.

game is global,think global ?

For one I completely agree with elvy. FS doesn’t have any sort of agreement with Desolation. It just makes sense for both FS and Deso to atack VS, since everybody knows what will happen during night weekdays

Runningwild.4692:

zepitou.2908:

Runningwild.4692:

All canadian fr players move to american server, problem solved. This is a very huge problem Anet…do something!

Every night:
http://www.kephost.com/images4/2012/9/18/a1_2012_9_18_203kfz0wyl.jpg

There is nearly no Canadians players on VS… so that won’t solve what you believe to be a problem.

Ok, you’re vampire or a night-hunting-zerging-droid-clone jedi warrior?

Or just a player who doesn’t have the same playing schedule as you … When YOU sleep, not everybody is.

@zepitou So you claim to know the whole population of the server? Cool story, bro.

This matter can be easily resolved. All it takes is for ANet to show some hard data about where VS players are connecting from.

This thread delivers.

I really enjoyed the part about honour and ferocious fighters and you should get a couple of beers at your usual place when I go for a couple of beers at my usual place.

I suggest we ask Anet for new server named waaaaaaaaaaaagh and see how it goes on from there.

Coriac.3274:

Phara Miu.2816:

We are not like you French, honor you opponents when they dont WvW, something French could do, they have a choice

But lets see and wait that this Friday will bring.

We’ll see exactly the exact same thing than every week-end.

FS will make an other night-zergling operation by waking up soon (I wonder what will be the next name :p ).
As it is late night in France when the russians are waking up soon, FS will get all the map and reinforce every towers/keeps when most of french people are sleeping (only our hardcore pool stays late and they can’t challenge a GreenFire zerg). With those reinforced positions on saturday morning, it will be very hard for Vizunah to get back objectives and Desolation won’t attack FS because they are focused on french people considering they are the “evil guys”.

Don’t blame french players for night-capping while you’re doing it when you have the opportunity.
And don’t pretend you’re not night-capping during week because of some honor thing… if you could, you would do it.

Where is the honor when claiming an alliance between Desolation and Far Shiverpeaks ?

And even if we wanted to stop night-capping players, what could we do ?
Ask people to not play the game ? Go PvE?

FS has alliance with Desolation? Only in your imagination. It’s true sometimes we can help them to defend tower or keep against VS, but only to get some profit to ourself. We don’t care about Desolation interests. VS do the same, but try to blame us lol.

FS players go to WvWvW in weekend nights because VS players do it every night and because it’s only the way to slow VS in getting points.

Night-capping VS players like to killing mobs on WvW and take empty keeps? Is it very interesting to do? Ok, ask them nothing.

Sorry for my bad English.

You just don’t get it do you?
In every game there’s a winner and a looser.

As a server we’re just way better than you with a lot more presence 24h/24.

Now what sucks for you is that the gap between VS and FS/DESO is just way too big in terms of presence.

It’s sad for us too you know we kinda feel lonely at the top of EU

Mandrakia.9280:

You just don’t get it do you?
In every game there’s a winner and a looser.

As a server we’re just way better than you with a lot more presence 24h/24.

Now what sucks for you is that the gap between VS and FS/DESO is just way too big in terms of presence.

It’s sad for us too you know we kinda feel lonely at the top of EU

In every game there’s winner and a looser. There is nothing to argue. And VS are loosers every evening against FS (sometimes against even Deso) and winners every night against empty keeps and mobs.

Stop talking sence versus Vizunah Sqaure, they wont admit thats its lame or unfair, and blame us for having a job and the need to sleep before getting a full day of hard labour.

We all should report to our goverment and ask wellfare and play 24/7 to prevent their wicked night crew from capping 100% of the map.

I can already see a dark future in WvW where USA servers are going to recruit Europeans / Australlians and Our own Europe servers have no real WvW guilds left.

Honestly if we get matched again versus the french iam jumping the sinking ship and play on USA server or just quit.

Aint going to give up my job to beat a few poor french that skip sleep to gain such an enormous advatage each day.

And the best part is Far Shiver is ranked #2 so we are doomed to play versus them tillt he end of time…unless they themselves get matched versus 24/7 servers.

Question to other servers in Europe:

Are there any more servers in EU that do night capping ? realy realy curious to know this as they might end up playing against each other.

Lol, Phara. YOU do the night capping – every higher populated server does against any lower populated. When we fought against FS we were leading in points in prime time – still lost by a lot, since had no presence at night/day.

So basically every higher populated server is high at ladder atm, since its due to population – with or without special organization is more active in offtime. Your situation right now is that 3 most populated server in EU are still expiriencing the same problem, since some server will ALWAYS have higher offtime activity. Thats the problem with the system. From high servers Riverside is active at night capping, but seems not active enought for your league.

Many servers in EU benefit from night capping (hell, even us right now cap most of map at night not since intended, but since our opponents gave up: thus the gap grows exponentially even higher. It shoudnt be like that!) – half the high populated servers, some german/french ones, but the only one that i know that really exploits it to a degree i understand VZ does is Baruch Bay – they openly admited they have latin americans playing (not hiding it unlike VZ) and they at the moment are high in ladder only because they cap everything at night – while the rest of the day being stomped by pretty much everyone (not even fight like you have with VZ – litterally, enemies having 400 points while they like 50 at primetime…): a best illustration, likely even better than VZ case of why the system is broken.

Saturday the 15th, 4:30 am : VS had 80% of the map, and we were fighting against masses of FS or Deso people.
A bit later, lots of VS people started to disconnect, ’cause they were tired.

Saturday the 15th, 8:00 am : VS had nothing, and FS 80+% of the map, with keeps and towers upgraded.
Period.

By the way, I’m starting to be a bit upset when i come here and read racist or xenophobic insults on this forum against french gw2 community or french people or french welfare system, or french unemployed people… just because some of our opponents are bad losers.

A-Net, please, do something.

Oh, i almost forgot, please take a look at those screenshots, taken yesterday evening.
You’ll find the time on the minimap, and our points per round score at the top of the screen. Just in case : NUGOS were present (lots of them) on VS Homemap.

Preacher.9018:

they openly admited they have latin americans playing (not hiding it unlike VZ)

And now we have latin americans xD I look forward to talking conspiracies.

Your reading comprehension is astonishing. No. You just have drained all people from all french servers to yours, so that the others are deserted and we now have to spend week doing jumping puzzles since half our current opponent Fort Ranik guilds ran to Vizunah too.

Overbloated server is overbloated. I would imagine you have some canadians, but considering the overall populations i could believe in jobless people too. What i cant believe though is “normal” people playing every day at 5 AM enmasse – the argument about jobs and stuff that others brought up, i can relate to it.

I don’t know in which country you leave, but in France we also have student and people who works at different time of the day.

Narayoth.8549:

Mandrakia.9280:

You just don’t get it do you?
In every game there’s a winner and a looser.

As a server we’re just way better than you with a lot more presence 24h/24.

Now what sucks for you is that the gap between VS and FS/DESO is just way too big in terms of presence.

It’s sad for us too you know we kinda feel lonely at the top of EU

In every game there’s winner and a looser. There is nothing to argue. And VS are loosers every evening against FS (sometimes against even Deso) and winners every night against empty keeps and mobs.

You said there is nothing to argue but yet you do. Hmm VS loosers every evening…

Again you don’t get we (fr) may not have the same primetime as you. Because every evening GMT+1; I see we keep up an equal or better +X score than FS/Deso. But indeed every afternoon GMT +1, we suffer from some ru guilds primetime.

Preacher : Just because you can’t believe it, doesn’t mean they are not “normal”.
Short-minded people always astonish me.

Kayato.9178:

Preacher.9018:

they openly admited they have latin americans playing (not hiding it unlike VZ)

And now we have latin americans xD I look forward to talking conspiracies.

You don’t want to mess with brazilian players on VS, trust me.

Huehuehue

Desolation have night capped on occasion and by night-capping I mean the 2am – 5am (gmt+2) timeslot that I usually get to play in, sadly facing VS in our last two matchups has left most of our players in that timeslot hugely demorilised.

I hate to say it but my guild will be boycotting any further matches against VS despite attempts to get organised on our server. When facing such high numerical superiority there is nothing that you can do. If it means Desolation drops in ranking so be it, I’d rather fight my way back up the ladder than be knocked down repeatedly.

Been playing wvw with the guild the last days, yesterday at around 1am cet our numbers drastically reduced compared to like 11pm. at 2am we got the outmanned buff and the french started camp spawning with a force 3 times as big as ours while another french zerg captured anything. we couldnt hold the reinforced AB because they had like 3 times as many as we had.
VS is very night active and they generate most of their points during that time while fighting against NPCs/empty keeps or against serverly outnumbered enemies…GG french.
Personally i hope Anet makes stuff invulnerable between 3am – 8am. This would intensify the fights until 3am and hey, it´s the mist, you can explain anything in there…

Just migrated to USA server to check some stuff out.
Lag is not noticable, got perhaps slightly higher ping but not something i realy notice.
Balance of the server i tranfered to seems alot better.

Europe servers will have a hard time recruiting USA / Austrailian players, while most European players dont care alot where they play i think as long as there is fair play involved

It seems the future of good WvW builds wanting to compete on more allround servers are needed to migrate to USA.
Eu just isnt apealing enough to get serious 24/7 WvW on a balanced level.

Things might change, but so far USA seems to the way to go for me and our guild.

And Crying again, because there is no night crew for you. Do Nightcapping yourself ? Get people for that? Talk to people, get some night capping going on and it should be fine..

Immolator.5640:

Omg look matchup thread, inb4 closed

The troll is strong in you. Lmao.

I was about to say actually this is a population and coverage issue thread. Which is still being asked for and which Anet has not even attempted to address… a year after this post and almost 2 years after launch (when people also brought it up).

Thread has another 10 or so hours of life probably, knock yourselves out but do remember you could start a thread at http://www.gw2wvw.net/forums/eu-matchups