Guild Wars 2

Perhaps the transferring that ocurred due to the Leagues actually did some good.

I know it may be blasphemy to say so but just look at the NA matches this week. They are closer than I think I’ve seen perhaps ever. There is only one that I would call a blowout. And three that are very even – its too close to call.

Is this just chance that it happened the week after leagues due to RNG? Or is it going to be a trend?

I think it is a combination of league burn out and closer matching for the week. In a couple weeks of random match ups and you will see the normal variance

I just love how you can slap a “balanced” stamp on match ups where the winner has been decided after not even half the week.

Shows what a sad state WvW is actually in.

EFWinters.5421:

I just love how you can slap a “balanced” stamp on match ups where the winner has been decided after not even half the week.

Shows what a sad state WvW is actually in.

In 5 out of the 8 matches, the second place server can win with a big push through the week. In T1, JQ and BG has kept within 5k points of each other and both are pushing hard. In T2, TC has caught up to FA after a slow start. In T3, Mag is keeping up in PPT with SBI and could push to win as they are within points distance.

This is indeed the closest matchups we’ve had in a long time. The only blowout match is DB/NSP/IoJ

Everyone is farming mats for ascended.

Johje Holan.4607:

Perhaps the transferring that ocurred due to the Leagues actually did some good.

I know it may be blasphemy to say so but just look at the NA matches this week. They are closer than I think I’ve seen perhaps ever. There is only one that I would call a blowout. And three that are very even – its too close to call.

Is this just chance that it happened the week after leagues due to RNG? Or is it going to be a trend?

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They didn’t. It’s just a silly way of pairing up servers that is almost the same as the ones before.

They are unwilling or uncapable of addressing things that favor mass numbers and zerging in this game and no amount of server pairing schemes will help.

I think this league was just an excuse to make cash off of people stupid enough to pay for server transfers.

I wouldn’t use the first and probably the second week after the tough seven weeks of the first season, as a good reading of servers being balanced. I would imagine a lot of servers and players are taking a break, plus there is going to be some movement of guilds again. So wait a couple weeks for things to settle and back to normal again.

And then we hit the holidays which may skew the results even more ….

Doubt the leagues did any good. Only thing it made me do is buy the evil SimCity game that I thought I would never get and have resisted for so long. WvW season shifted me towards the other side from casual to even more casual and into other games. The only WvW I’ve done lately is probably 5-15 minutes where I need to find 10 reds to kill so I can do my dailies. Yes, that’s all I log into GW2 to do now. Until I can see Anet doing something about zerg-blobs, I don’t think I’ll even care. I’ve probably spent more time on these message boards than in game. Guess we can all call this being burnt out?

SleepingDragon.1596:

Doubt the leagues did any good. Only thing it made me do is buy the evil SimCity game that I thought I would never get and have resisted for so long. WvW season shifted me towards the other side from casual to even more casual and into other games. The only WvW I’ve done lately is probably 5-15 minutes where I need to find 10 reds to kill so I can do my dailies. Yes, that’s all I log into GW2 to do now. Until I can see Anet doing something about zerg-blobs, I don’t think I’ll even care. I’ve probably spent more time on these message boards than in game. Guess we can all call this being burnt out?

Care to explain to me why “zerg-blobs” are bad? Honest question. I haven’t played in any other tier than tier 1, and here, it’s just a part of the game mode of wvw.

If you want small scale fights, there’s spvp…

Achievement hunters back to their PvE world so WvW has less players (no queue anymore) and seem like balance.

The matchup system for seasons definitely needs a more personal touch from devs. If servers can tank their out of season performance just so they can get into an easier season…. well that’s pretty pathetic. Not only is it cowardly on the servers’ part, but it shows a real lack of investment and personal interest of the devs in deciding the matchups.

Reverence.6915:

EFWinters.5421:

I just love how you can slap a “balanced” stamp on match ups where the winner has been decided after not even half the week.

Shows what a sad state WvW is actually in.

In 5 out of the 8 matches, the second place server can win with a big push through the week. In T1, JQ and BG has kept within 5k points of each other and both are pushing hard. In T2, TC has caught up to FA after a slow start. In T3, Mag is keeping up in PPT with SBI and could push to win as they are within points distance.

This is indeed the closest matchups we’ve had in a long time. The only blowout match is DB/NSP/IoJ

No, once the week starts T1 is unbalanced due to COVERAGE gaps. BG is guaranteed to win, JQ 2nd and SoR 3rd. Its just how it is right now. Before league we we all 3 super-balanced in T1 and the matchups were decided in the last minutes of friday. But BG decided to become a vacation resort for guilds during league breaking any balance the “big three” had

Reverence.6915:

SleepingDragon.1596:

Doubt the leagues did any good. Only thing it made me do is buy the evil SimCity game that I thought I would never get and have resisted for so long. WvW season shifted me towards the other side from casual to even more casual and into other games. The only WvW I’ve done lately is probably 5-15 minutes where I need to find 10 reds to kill so I can do my dailies. Yes, that’s all I log into GW2 to do now. Until I can see Anet doing something about zerg-blobs, I don’t think I’ll even care. I’ve probably spent more time on these message boards than in game. Guess we can all call this being burnt out?

Care to explain to me why “zerg-blobs” are bad? Honest question. I haven’t played in any other tier than tier 1, and here, it’s just a part of the game mode of wvw.

If you want small scale fights, there’s spvp…

There is no answer to that. WvW is littered with people who want sPvP but won’t go play it because your characters feel disconnected from the game world. At least that is why I can’t get into sPvP.

I prefer large scale conflict and sieges anyway, and honestly, I have never seen a blob in this game the size of some of the zergs DAoC had in the first year or two after release, and I feel like the 30-70 player zergs of WvW are much more manageable than a 200 man server crashing relic raid.

Different strokes for different folks, some of us like siege warfare, others just wanna do 20v20 all day. More power to both parties imo!

LostBalloon.6423:

Reverence.6915:

EFWinters.5421:

I just love how you can slap a “balanced” stamp on match ups where the winner has been decided after not even half the week.

Shows what a sad state WvW is actually in.

In 5 out of the 8 matches, the second place server can win with a big push through the week. In T1, JQ and BG has kept within 5k points of each other and both are pushing hard. In T2, TC has caught up to FA after a slow start. In T3, Mag is keeping up in PPT with SBI and could push to win as they are within points distance.

This is indeed the closest matchups we’ve had in a long time. The only blowout match is DB/NSP/IoJ

No, once the week starts T1 is unbalanced due to COVERAGE gaps. BG is guaranteed to win, JQ 2nd and SoR 3rd. Its just how it is right now. Before league we we all 3 super-balanced in T1 and the matchups were decided in the last minutes of friday. But BG decided to become a vacation resort for guilds during league breaking any balance the “big three” had

BG guaranteed to win? That’s certainly not how I feel. But then, you’re from SoR, so your defeatist attitude is a self fulfilling prophesy.

BG was behind JQ until around Monday. JQ made up the points again by Tuesday night. BG only pulled away last night~today.

BG only had 1 guild come over to us during leagues, so it’s certainly one hell of an attractive “vacation resort”.

But again, you’re in SoR, so you believe your own bullcrap spewed out on the forums.

Anyway, my point that this week of wvw matchups were very close. TC has overtaken FA and Mag is about to overtake SBI. Seems to be very exciting so far!

Give it 2 or 3 weeks before we know the end result.

Leagues made balance worse. Leagues brought out the worst in GW2’s wvw community. League’s broke servers in half. Leagues were a terrible idea.

deracs.1762:

I think it is a combination of league burn out and closer matching for the week. In a couple weeks of random match ups and you will see the normal variance

Yeah, its going to take a couple of weeks to really see how things are going.

Yak’s Bend, for example, could queue 2-3 maps on any given night at NA primetime during the last 3 or so weeks of season 1. Last night, YB was outnumbered in EB and the other maps weren’t exactly bustling. Could be burn out. Could be pve players not playing anymore. Either way, it will take a few weeks to really see.

More like everyone is taking a break , and there are no more fairweathers in the maps

There were winners and losers during, and leading upto the Season. BG, SoS, FA, Mag, SBI, YB, and AR were definitely winners. They got transfers from other servers and are on a upswing (don’t know for sure about AR, but they are out of the nosebleed seats).

SoR, DB, IoJ and Kain took a massive hit. Likewise TC is a shadow of it’s former self and is going on momentum and daytime coverage.

So I wouldn’t have called this a success. I would go as far as to say that it’s a mistake to see things as balanced outside of the T2,T3, and T4 zones.

Chris.3290:

There were winners and losers during, and leading upto the Season. BG, SoS, FA, Mag, SBI, YB, and AR were definitely winners. They got transfers from other servers and are on a upswing (don’t know for sure about AR, but they are out of the nosebleed seats).

SoR, DB, IoJ and Kain took a massive hit. Likewise TC is a shadow of it’s former self and is going on momentum and daytime coverage.

So I wouldn’t have called this a success. I would go as far as to say that it’s a mistake to see things as balanced outside of the T2,T3, and T4 zones.

Yes, but it’s a LOT more balanced than matchups determined in leagues. Hell, I’m having fun just staring at the changes in score hour by hour.

WvW is innately unbalanced. Trying to force it otherwise will just ruin a lot of communities. If us players could try to police it, it would be a better way.

Reverence.6915:

Chris.3290:

There were winners and losers during, and leading upto the Season. BG, SoS, FA, Mag, SBI, YB, and AR were definitely winners. They got transfers from other servers and are on a upswing (don’t know for sure about AR, but they are out of the nosebleed seats).

SoR, DB, IoJ and Kain took a massive hit. Likewise TC is a shadow of it’s former self and is going on momentum and daytime coverage.

So I wouldn’t have called this a success. I would go as far as to say that it’s a mistake to see things as balanced outside of the T2,T3, and T4 zones.

Yes, but it’s a LOT more balanced than matchups determined in leagues.

That is a completely incorrect and nonsensical statement.

To the original post, no. League made things worse. Though leagues aside, things are always getting worse with server population. That’s the way the game pays.

styx.7294:

Reverence.6915:

Chris.3290:

There were winners and losers during, and leading upto the Season. BG, SoS, FA, Mag, SBI, YB, and AR were definitely winners. They got transfers from other servers and are on a upswing (don’t know for sure about AR, but they are out of the nosebleed seats).

SoR, DB, IoJ and Kain took a massive hit. Likewise TC is a shadow of it’s former self and is going on momentum and daytime coverage.

So I wouldn’t have called this a success. I would go as far as to say that it’s a mistake to see things as balanced outside of the T2,T3, and T4 zones.

Yes, but it’s a LOT more balanced than matchups determined in leagues.

That is a completely incorrect and nonsensical statement.

To the original post, no. League made things worse. Though leagues aside, things are always getting worse with server population. That’s the way the game pays.

Care to remind me of a week in the recent past where we had more than 4 tiers that were competitive? Or are you just choosing to ignore all of that and focus on your own matchup?

Reverence.6915:

styx.7294:

Reverence.6915:

Chris.3290:

There were winners and losers during, and leading upto the Season. BG, SoS, FA, Mag, SBI, YB, and AR were definitely winners. They got transfers from other servers and are on a upswing (don’t know for sure about AR, but they are out of the nosebleed seats).

SoR, DB, IoJ and Kain took a massive hit. Likewise TC is a shadow of it’s former self and is going on momentum and daytime coverage.

So I wouldn’t have called this a success. I would go as far as to say that it’s a mistake to see things as balanced outside of the T2,T3, and T4 zones.

Yes, but it’s a LOT more balanced than matchups determined in leagues.

That is a completely incorrect and nonsensical statement.

To the original post, no. League made things worse. Though leagues aside, things are always getting worse with server population. That’s the way the game pays.

Care to remind me of a week in the recent past where we had more than 4 tiers that were competitive? Or are you just choosing to ignore all of that and focus on your own matchup?

No but I don’t see how random match ups are going to provide more than 4 tiers that are competitive. It’s random.

I’m not ignoring facts and my match up is pretty good!

Reverence.6915:

styx.7294:

Reverence.6915:

Chris.3290:

There were winners and losers during, and leading upto the Season. BG, SoS, FA, Mag, SBI, YB, and AR were definitely winners. They got transfers from other servers and are on a upswing (don’t know for sure about AR, but they are out of the nosebleed seats).

SoR, DB, IoJ and Kain took a massive hit. Likewise TC is a shadow of it’s former self and is going on momentum and daytime coverage.

So I wouldn’t have called this a success. I would go as far as to say that it’s a mistake to see things as balanced outside of the T2,T3, and T4 zones.

Yes, but it’s a LOT more balanced than matchups determined in leagues.

That is a completely incorrect and nonsensical statement.

To the original post, no. League made things worse. Though leagues aside, things are always getting worse with server population. That’s the way the game pays.

Care to remind me of a week in the recent past where we had more than 4 tiers that were competitive? Or are you just choosing to ignore all of that and focus on your own matchup?

The balanced matchups have more to do with the RNG then anything else….During leagues with fixed matchs and no way to have matchups between the bottom of gold and the top of silver, you could never ever get the more balanced matchups say between like FA, TC and SoS or Mag, SBI and Yaks…..now you can. Leagues just lead to blowouts week after week because of this, with a rare occasional match. Now with the RNG back to the way it was, there will be some very balanced weeks and then some weeks where you get more blowout matches….I don’t think you can judge population based on how competitive the matchups are right now…

Gamadorn.2659:

Reverence.6915:

styx.7294:

Reverence.6915:

Chris.3290:

There were winners and losers during, and leading upto the Season. BG, SoS, FA, Mag, SBI, YB, and AR were definitely winners. They got transfers from other servers and are on a upswing (don’t know for sure about AR, but they are out of the nosebleed seats).

SoR, DB, IoJ and Kain took a massive hit. Likewise TC is a shadow of it’s former self and is going on momentum and daytime coverage.

So I wouldn’t have called this a success. I would go as far as to say that it’s a mistake to see things as balanced outside of the T2,T3, and T4 zones.

Yes, but it’s a LOT more balanced than matchups determined in leagues.

That is a completely incorrect and nonsensical statement.

To the original post, no. League made things worse. Though leagues aside, things are always getting worse with server population. That’s the way the game pays.

Care to remind me of a week in the recent past where we had more than 4 tiers that were competitive? Or are you just choosing to ignore all of that and focus on your own matchup?

The balanced matchups have more to do with the RNG then anything else….During leagues with fixed matchs and no way to have matchups between the bottom of gold and the top of silver, you could never ever get the more balanced matchups say between like FA, TC and SoS or Mag, SBI and Yaks…..now you can. Leagues just lead to blowouts week after week because of this, with a rare occasional match. Now with the RNG back to the way it was, there will be some very balanced weeks and then some weeks where you get more blowout matches….I don’t think you can judge population based on how competitive the matchups are right now…

Ok then, so we’re in agreement?

FYI there was never any discussion about population. Just that this week has been very balanced.