I’d say Death magic seems like it would be better suited to gaining resistance than Blood Magic but Unholy Martyr would be a perfect fit for resistance (UM should be death magic by all rights).
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U cant do nothing against that. Almost no visual effect and 13s CD. Old necrobomb had 32s/40s CD and visual effect…. Epidemic was insane.
And about resistance… is strong? YES, but can be corrupted or have a counterplay, but epidemic on the previous state had no counterplay.
I dont know jet if this change is the one that the skill needs to be balanced, but at the first moment looks fine to me, at least gives you a counter play wich is fair.
Again, all the bad players won, but here you go:
1) Epi has a huge tell. There’s giant swirling black stuff that appears over you, then the condis don’t even spread for 1 second after that. If you idiots can’t see that, then change your graphics. I see in your video that you have effect LoD checked, so you aren’t gonna see kitten. I guess all the other cry babies are doing the same thing. Duh, of course you can’t see the tell.
2, I watch that video, and your rev didn’t pop pain absorption before the condis got stacked, so he failed. If he did do that, then you guys would have suffered 0 damage.
3. Your guards (you only had 1 in your party) and other classes weren’t cleansing enough. All those condis that got eppied were on someone. That never should have happened.
So, they just outplayed you. Cry some more to Anet so you might actually win a fight.
Thats not me, or my guild…. that was only an example of how strong epi was before the nerf. Im not crying, just showing an example for the people who say that was not OP.
Im agree that these people didnt do it perfect. Only 1 thing on guard can save U, the meditation who clean all condis (10 condis cant be cleaned with another skill except Elixir C on engi and even if you clean condis but dont clean the burn stack you are so dead)…. save you the first time, but with Epi on 13s CD, cant save U a second or third time before U recover your CD. I think that the skill who do that should have longer CD, so it cant be spammable.
Resist was not an option with all the boon strip on necro and revenant. Maybe now with the pach could give you a chance.
NOTE Malix resitance Revs are a walking bombs on this meta (they acumulate the huge stacks of conditions) so, before the necros only have to epi them and strip their boons to kill the full party. Now they have to strip before Epi, so even if rev die, the party can go on, because there is not enough time to cast Epi between strip boons and down state.
Does that rev in their party not know what pain absorption does?
Not every one likes to be foces into playing one way kind of what all the argument is about at its core. Not every rev finds it fun to spam one skill over and over you would be better off duel boxing a rev with this skill then playing one your self. How boring must it be to be a rev who MUST only use pain absorption and if they do any thing else they are wasting energy and letting there team down.
Condi still not fixed but this is the right path to fixing it all though it makes rev life very very boring (keep in mind rev was doing this before hand).
Go healer instead. I found it really fun.
I have that the only way to play ele effectively in wvw any more in groups and i only play ele. The game is missing tools to help healers so the QoL for healers is kind of bad atm but its workable (need means of targeting living targets with skills and have though skill blow up on though ally targets such as water 1 staff).
But we are not talking about a type of build we are talking about a class that must hit one button over and over and that it even healer builds do a lot of things so there heals are effective over all (mixing healing over times effects and burst heals).
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Does that rev in their party not know what pain absorption does?
Not every one likes to be foces into playing one way kind of what all the argument is about at its core. Not every rev finds it fun to spam one skill over and over you would be better off duel boxing a rev with this skill then playing one your self. How boring must it be to be a rev who MUST only use pain absorption and if they do any thing else they are wasting energy and letting there team down.
Condi still not fixed but this is the right path to fixing it all though it makes rev life very very boring (keep in mind rev was doing this before hand).
Go healer instead. I found it really fun.
I have that the only way to play ele effectively in wvw any more in groups and i only play ele. The game is missing tools to help healers so the QoL for healers is kind of bad atm but its workable (need means of targeting living targets with skills and have though skill blow up on though ally targets such as water 1 staff).
But we are not talking about a type of build we are talking about a class that must hit one button over and over and that it even healer builds do a lot of things so there heals are effective over all (mixing healing over times effects and burst heals).
I meant on Rev as an alternative to being a demon spam bot.
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I’ve been playing necro as one of my mains for a bit now (ele got boring/nerfed and less drops as water ele), and glad to say I didn’t join in the epidemic fad, so not going to miss it either.
A good change, next up will be bleed stacking on chill in a month or so.
Honestly, I hope they don’t nerf that since there actually IS counterplay to it, where there isn’t counterplay to a strong epi bomb.
U cant do nothing against that. Almost no visual effect and 13s CD. Old necrobomb had 32s/40s CD and visual effect…. Epidemic was insane.
And about resistance… is strong? YES, but can be corrupted or have a counterplay, but epidemic on the previous state had no counterplay.
I dont know jet if this change is the one that the skill needs to be balanced, but at the first moment looks fine to me, at least gives you a counter play wich is fair.
Again, all the bad players won, but here you go:
1) Epi has a huge tell. There’s giant swirling black stuff that appears over you, then the condis don’t even spread for 1 second after that. If you idiots can’t see that, then change your graphics. I see in your video that you have effect LoD checked, so you aren’t gonna see kitten. I guess all the other cry babies are doing the same thing. Duh, of course you can’t see the tell.
2, I watch that video, and your rev didn’t pop pain absorption before the condis got stacked, so he failed. If he did do that, then you guys would have suffered 0 damage.
3. Your guards (you only had 1 in your party) and other classes weren’t cleansing enough. All those condis that got eppied were on someone. That never should have happened.
So, they just outplayed you. Cry some more to Anet so you might actually win a fight.
Thats not me, or my guild…. that was only an example of how strong epi was before the nerf. Im not crying, just showing an example for the people who say that was not OP.
Im agree that these people didnt do it perfect. Only 1 thing on guard can save U, the meditation who clean all condis (10 condis cant be cleaned with another skill except Elixir C on engi and even if you clean condis but dont clean the burn stack you are so dead)…. save you the first time, but with Epi on 13s CD, cant save U a second or third time before U recover your CD. I think that the skill who do that should have longer CD, so it cant be spammable.
Resist was not an option with all the boon strip on necro and revenant. Maybe now with the pach could give you a chance.
NOTE Malix resitance Revs are a walking bombs on this meta (they acumulate the huge stacks of conditions) so, before the necros only have to epi them and strip their boons to kill the full party. Now they have to strip before Epi, so even if rev die, the party can go on, because there is not enough time to cast Epi between strip boons and down state.
I play Rev, Guard, Mes, Necro. I never get more than a couple of conditions on my Rev and they are never there for more than a couple seconds because the rest of my party is always cleansing when they see a couple condis on people. Resistance rev isn’t an issue. It’s the players.
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Maybe NA meta is slighly different than EU meta. Here is imposible to clear all the conditions applied, if a single necro skill put 2 stacks of bleeding on your party, U absorb it and get 10 stacks on yourself.
Several necro (lots atm) spamming different skills and few different conditions applied per skill, is completly imposible to clear all…. doesnt matter your setup.
Resistance is not an issue…. absorb condis could be an issue with epidemic.
Yeah EU meta is mostly running dwarf/mallyx or at least mallyx to apply AoE resistance and rev will often have 6+ conditions on him. That was the main target for epidemic, pick a rev or a downstate, condi and epi it. Now its just downstates.
Now revs will have resistance, so they have to first rip them from boons, and theres really no reliable way to remove exactly resistance out of the 7 boons they have exspecially with all boon corrupts having a cast time. So you can still do it on downstates but I never liked idea of condi necro because spite traitline was always so powerful killing people.
The non-epi condis are strong now though with the bleeding change in the chill trait so mallyx revs are even more important. people will swap to power necros eventually though, when they realise they’re doing barely any reliable damage.
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downstates can also get boons, resistance too. someone told me downs cant get boons from allies, dunno whether thats true. but at least runes seem to still work (rnd durability-proc). fact is they get boons.
big epis are still possible but like Threather.9354 wrote theyre " barely […] reliable damage". epi becomes more and more luckdependant which feels bad.
Did someone really just say Pain Absorption was the counter to Epidemic? How ignorant can people get?!
Pain Absorption is a massive “EPIDEMIC ME!” sign on the revenant (And pity any that immediately try to PA away the epidemic afterward – if there are any other necros with Epidemic ready, that exponentially explodes the pain)
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