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Posted by: LonePanda.9283

LonePanda.9283

I think it would be a good idea to use the PvP gear and stats in World vs World.
What are your thoughts on this folks.

For me, it seems like a good way to bring new players into the game mode, as they would be able to get the gear they need to be competitive right off the bat. It also seems like a strong way to integrate the PvP community as a whole. It also would be a good starting point to begin developing PvP/WvW only skins.

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Posted by: Elmo Benchwarmer.3025

Elmo Benchwarmer.3025

I wholeheartedly agree. It would make WvW somewhat enjoyable again.

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Posted by: Brando.1374

Brando.1374

How about you stay in Spvp and I get to keep the gear I actually worked to get.

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Posted by: clint.5681

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They will all be the same gear in the future

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Posted by: lordkrall.7241

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It could possibly work.
One one condition:
That they lower the monetary rewards gotten in WvW massively. Otherwise it would unbalance the economy quite fast, seeing as you would get gear for free, but still be able to gain loads of money.

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Posted by: piffdaddy.8014

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No, simply because wvw is an inspiration to get better gear for many people. If you take that away, what do you do with pve gear upgrades? Go farm braindead dungeons that are doable in rares with full ascended? No,being able to use the gear in some sort of pvp is endgame for a lot of people and changing it would be bad. Maybe sell rares for badges of honor so lowbies could have comparable gear but if you want it to be equal spvp is for that

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Posted by: LonePanda.9283

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I play both WvW and PvP regularly, it’s just something that, at least for me, makes WvW very alt-unfriendly. I have a character for each of the eight professions and while I can play PvP at the drop of a hat on any of them, I only have a couple that have the necessary gear to contribute effectively in WvW.

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Posted by: Zikory.6871

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First off, I do not want…reasons blah blah doesn’t really matter.

My question to you would be: IF they were to implement this how would they handle all the gear that I have acquired for WvW?

Keep in mind, I do not PvE. Have 3 sets of ascended stuff (excluding armor obviously). My main build is probably not viable for most PvE content as it is currently played.

If this was implemented would anet have to tell me that all that time spent on gear is now only able to be used in PvE or would they offer refunds for that gear? How would they go about refunding it? Could they even refund it? What about legendarys? What they be just a skin in WvW or would it be like sPvP and not usable?

What about the ascended infusions I bought in WvW +/- guard damage? That wouldn’t be needed in PvE…

IMO this isn’t a option they could push with out really kitten ing off a lot of the WvW population.

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Posted by: Eloquence.5207

Eloquence.5207

I think food should be banned.

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Posted by: Brando.1374

Brando.1374

I think people should stop complaining about gear in wvw.
this is the endgame for gw2, did you expect to just walk in and be the best?

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Posted by: Eloquence.5207

Eloquence.5207

I think people should stop complaining about gear in wvw.
this is the endgame for gw2, did you expect to just walk in and be the best?

I see you take pride in collecting loot bags from upleveled characters.

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Posted by: Brando.1374

Brando.1374

I think people should stop complaining about gear in wvw.
this is the endgame for gw2, did you expect to just walk in and be the best?

I see you take pride in collecting loot bags from upleveled characters.

actually no, I dont.
I take pride in collecting bags from zergs and enemy guild groups. Uplevels never drop anything good. I usually wont engage them unless they want to attack me.

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Posted by: Nuzt.7894

Nuzt.7894

8 80’s with multiple sets of gear, no thnx I’ve spent far to much time and money gearing my characters. I have zero interest in PvE so all that gear would just be a waste this would be a deal breaker for me. Not to mention the amount of time spent on crafting to get geared.

Play SPvP if you want this, and for the food being banned … its available to everyone.

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Posted by: NevirSayDie.6235

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I would love this, but I don’t think the WvW population wants gear to be balanced. Some people enjoy having more powerful stuff than their opponents too much to give it up.

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Posted by: piffdaddy.8014

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I also like food, and find it interesting to use different foods based on the situation. Don’t change things that aren’t broken; many people don’t like huge change esp. in mmorpgs.

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Posted by: Waffler.1257

Waffler.1257

I think people should stop complaining about gear in wvw.
this is the endgame for gw2, did you expect to just walk in and be the best?

I remember back in the day when players were the best at a game because they had superior knowledge, reflexes, and decision making, not because they had dedicated the most time to performing menial and repetitive tasks to make their character sheet have the biggest numbers.

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Posted by: Kalan.9705

Kalan.9705

I think people should stop complaining about gear in wvw.
this is the endgame for gw2, did you expect to just walk in and be the best?

I remember back in the day when players were the best at a game because they had superior knowledge, reflexes, and decision making, not because they had dedicated the most time to performing menial and repetitive tasks to make their character sheet have the biggest numbers.

People who have to rely on their grinded gear will often defend their grind as if it represents skill. It represents time spent, not skill.

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Posted by: Zikory.6871

Zikory.6871

I think people should stop complaining about gear in wvw.
this is the endgame for gw2, did you expect to just walk in and be the best?

I remember back in the day when players were the best at a game because they had superior knowledge, reflexes, and decision making, not because they had dedicated the most time to performing menial and repetitive tasks to make their character sheet have the biggest numbers.

People who have to rely on their grinded gear will often defend their grind as if it represents skill. It represents time spent, not skill.

Are you guys saying you only die in WvW because other people have ascended gear? Also are you saying your skill is not high enough to over come some extra stats on a less skilled opponent?

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Posted by: Brando.1374

Brando.1374

I think people should stop complaining about gear in wvw.
this is the endgame for gw2, did you expect to just walk in and be the best?

I remember back in the day when players were the best at a game because they had superior knowledge, reflexes, and decision making, not because they had dedicated the most time to performing menial and repetitive tasks to make their character sheet have the biggest numbers.

People who have to rely on their grinded gear will often defend their grind as if it represents skill. It represents time spent, not skill.

if you dont like the “skill” level in wvw since its only a representation of the “grind” to get the gear with the stats we want then Spvp is always there for you.

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Posted by: Nuzt.7894

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The stat difference is so little between gear, its not a case of people thinking gear=skill. I have 8 80’s each with at least two set of gear some with up to 5 sets, I don’t consider my gear skill but I do think the time and money I spent on gear matters more than those people that are to lazy to get the gear. People asking for SPvP gear just want an easy free setup they don’t have to work for. If you think your losing fights because others have better gear I have some bad news for you.

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Posted by: Kalan.9705

Kalan.9705

Sorry but you’re saying as well as having much more practise time to develop skills you NEED some lame stat advantage advantage as well?

How sad.

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Posted by: Rinzler.8072

Rinzler.8072

A person with exotics (easy to get) can easily compete with someone in fully ascended.

If you think you are losing because you are outgeared, time to up your skillz.

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Posted by: Waffler.1257

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I feel bad for the people who think ascended armor is the last stat grind Anet will add to this game.

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Posted by: demetrodon.1457

demetrodon.1457

simply no

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Posted by: Absconditus.6804

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As I quite honestly prefer the ability to min-max my stats within WvW, something you are just not able to do with sPvP due to how the stats are given from large pools through amulets and gemstones, I would hate for something like this to happen to WvW.

I like having the ability to go 2 Dire, 3 Carrion and 1 Knight for gear, 3 Celestial, 2 Berserker and 1 Assassin for trinkets, and so on forth. Now I don’t really go mixing my gear like the aforementioned example, but the ability to really control your stats is something I seriously miss whenever I do sPvP (and is why I am mainly a WvW-player). A lot of my more fun builds are plain impossible to do efficiently in sPvP, where as they are great for WvW.

WvW != sPvP. I prefer it how it is, and would rather see them make the ability to really customize your stats in sPvP happen. It would definitely open up for less cookie-cut builds in there. As long as everyone has access to the same stats, I don’t see how it would make it all that more unbalanced.

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Posted by: Meglobob.8620

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NO!

I play WvW and PvP. I am very happy with the current set up, thanks.

If they ever did this or try to balance WvW, I would probably stop playing WvW all together and so would loads and loads of other players.

The stat difference of Ascended armour vs Exotic armour is tiny, miniscule. In fact anyone who bothers crafting it, basically just wasted there time and money for a truly pathetic increase in your stats!

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