Guild Wars 2

Hi everyone, i was just thinking about the incoming implementation of new crafting and new ascended items and was wondering what people actually think about this.

First of all I’ll say that I’m mainly talking about WvW because I pretty much play only there as I’m not interested in PvE and I don’t really like structured.

It’s probably not gonna change that much, however, I personally don’t feel to comfortable about this simply because I really don’t care about equip. As they said on release, this game shouldn’t be about equipment, and to me is quite good as it is now. I’ts fairly easy and cheap to get your character ready and that means you’re ready to be competitive quickly while implementing a new tier is gonna force people farm more to be competitive again. I don’t mind trinkets as they don’t make a gamebreaking change and you can slowly get laurels while playing without worrying about it, but i’m afraid that a whole ascended set of armor+weapons is gonna mess up balance even more (and it’s not like we need more balance issues than what we already have) and is gonna create a gap to those who don’t care about items and don’t want to farm them.

I’m saying this because that’s actually one of the reasons I bought this game as Anet advertised it that way.

Also, since class build are in constant change with every patch (which I find fair enough) is gonna be even more expensive to get new equip when you want to switch build while I like how easy that is now as it offer great and accessible variation to the game.

So anyway, I didn’t make this to plain complain (well I did a bit) but mostly to hear what people think about this, I’d like to know what most players think of this issue. I’m posting it on the WvW forum because I think that’s where the biggest issues will be when this is done

Honestly… I don’t want ascended sets that much. I’ve written about it in the past, and did so in an extremely large thread that exists just to answer the question you are asking here:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Feedback-Changes-additions-to-Ascended-Gear/first

don’t want them at all. Anet promised no vertical progression grind but ascended armor and weapons will be exactly that. They will certainly be time gated so alts, new toons, and new players will lose out big time compared to those with fully ascended gear.

Thanks for your feedback.
I know this discussion is no news by any means, but it seems to me that once more things are being done looking at the PvE aspect while not considering properly the WvW aspect.

I do understand that for pve it might be nice to work toward something equip-related,
but since this is going to be a HUGE issue for WvW and since in these days people are already complaining much about how the situation is and it looks like devs are trying to care a bit more I’m still hoping they’ll work something not to screw everything up with this choice

No, i dont want it. I have 8 chars, some of them with multiple armor sets and i dont want to have to equip them all again.

1.they havent even implemented all stat combinations for the current ascended items yet. Valkyrie and Carrion are still missing cause ‘it takes time to build new items’.

2.last time ascended stuff was introduced WvW has been completely forgotten and it took a couple of months until we got a way to get ascended items with badges. And now you still cant get earrings for badges+laurels. It’s very likely that Anet will forget WvW again and implement the new ascended armor/weapons in a similary half kitten manner.

3.it’s going to be timegated, which means we wont be able to get it with laurels/badges and need another kittening currency instead.

If Anet deleted every bit of ascended in the game forever and didn’t even compensate me for all the ascended I already have I wouldn’t even complain. I’d probably thank them instead because ascended is the most player unfriendly mechanic in the game and its only gotten worse with each new time-gating system for each new slot that gets the treadmill.

I think it sounds great, personally. They won’t be crippling to try and get and will fill a much needed time-gap between exotic and legendary items. I’m looking forwards to seeing the implementation.

I don’t really see the point in more ascended gear besides adding grind. Why don’t they make their stats equal to exotics, but with an added damage buff in <wherever they feel it’s relevant, as long as it’s not WvW>

Absolutely not.
WvW players want to get on with the business of killing each other.

Once you’ve done it once, the grind to level toons and gear them is no fun at all. In fact I don’t think the PvE grind for your first toon is much fun after the first few levels.
You could cut out all that stuff and it wouldn’t make one iota of difference to player numbers or customer loyalty in WvW.

Just give us skins that reflect rank and number of kills in WvW – Oh, and a working command system. That would probably satisfy 99% of WvW players and keep them playing indefinitely.

I do not want more crap to have to grind for to gear up all my 80’s to be on even gear footing with other players.

I have multiple 80’s and I’m already punished for it. Please put the whip away A-net.

As someone who has very recently left another MMO aiming to land in GW2 almost solely because of WvW and the promise of there being no gear resets —

NO, I do NOT want addition of gear with increased stats, no matter how small the increases are!

Please do NOT let GW2 devolve into never-ending chases of better and better gear, of the kind we have in other MMOs. Please do NOT kill one of the prime factors that makes GW2 so attractive compared to others.

I don’t mind at all.

No, I don’t want any more upgrades to gear. I like getting on with improving my skill with each profession rather than chasing higher stats.

Ascended gear will ruin wvw

It is super easy to get, very little effort overall to get geared at this stage of the game, and it provides only a bit more stats. I doubt anyone will notice the difference while they run around in PVT face planting their #1 key with a group of their closest 50 friends.

vincecontix.1264:

Ascended gear will ruin wvw

Sure, like it already has, right? /sarcasm

There’s nothing wrong with gear progression. The current information says they’ll be limit 1 piece per day crafred, will require new ranks in crafts, and can still be sold on the AH. Just buy the things.

Introduce some way to convert badges of honor into laurels, use laurels to buy dyes, use karma to buy orrian boxes, sell all the above, buy ascended gear.

I could see the complaint if they said you would only get ascended gear by completing some long PvE only quest chain and your ascended gear would have a 10% chance on crit to vaporize your opponent like it did in WoW. But I’m not following the problem here.

Niim.9260:

It is super easy to get, very little effort overall to get geared at this stage of the game, and it provides only a bit more stats. I doubt anyone will notice the difference while they run around in PVT face planting their #1 key with a group of their closest 50 friends.

I definitely noticed the difference when I got my guardian all ascended trinkets. It’s very much noticeable, which is why I do not want more of that gear. Getting that stuff takes a lot of time (lots of laurels…) for just one character. I have one character for each class, and have to pick and choose which one deserves to get ascended trinkets, as I’ll only be able to get it for one every few months.

That doesn’t even take into account when I want to change builds around…

It’s the sort of vertical progression I really do not want to see and like the OP is one of the reasons I was drawn to this game in the first place.

Have they confirmed what sort of Ascended items they will be adding? I was under the assumption that Anet would not implement any further gear progression and instead were going to add new skills and traits.

multivira.7925:

Niim.9260:

It is super easy to get, very little effort overall to get geared at this stage of the game, and it provides only a bit more stats. I doubt anyone will notice the difference while they run around in PVT face planting their #1 key with a group of their closest 50 friends.

I definitely noticed the difference when I got my guardian all ascended trinkets. It’s very much noticeable, which is why I do not want more of that gear. Getting that stuff takes a lot of time (lots of laurels…) for just one character. I have one character for each class, and have to pick and choose which one deserves to get ascended trinkets, as I’ll only be able to get it for one every few months.

That doesn’t even take into account when I want to change builds around…

I play in a havoc squad, we are almost always fighting 2-3x our number and most of our group has maybe one piece of ascended. The tiny bit more PVT on the average zerglet, not an issue.