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Posted by: Fozzik.1742

Fozzik.1742

How can guilds and individuals claim to be highly skilled, or “hardcore”, when they either sit on a winning server while it’s winning, or transfer to a winning server if they start to lose? I’m sure they tell themselves the server is winning BECAUSE of their significant contribution…but we all know that a single player or guild makes little difference in those crowds. It proves nothing, and requires little of you. Sit at the top of your tier, or jump to a higher one, just so long as you’re a part of a winning team, a small cog in a machine you really have no control over and for which you can claim little credit. That’s the coward’s way. It’s how most players and guilds have been approaching WvW since launch.

Why work for wins? Why struggle against even odds or odds stacked against you? It’s so much easier and simpler to just jump on a bandwagon that’s already rolling at full speed, and then claim credit and take pride in wins you had little to do with. Stop being wimps…get off that bandwagon and build one of your own. You think you’re good? Prove it.

Do you want to prove you’re a highly skilled player? Do you want to show the high level of organization and participation your guild brings? Do you claim to be a powerful tactician or leader? Why not transfer to a server where you can actually make a difference? Where you can claim credit and all the glory and irrefutably prove that you and your guild are one of the best in the game. You don’t do that by joining a winner, you do that by joining a loser and turning it around.

Real winners…those with truly exceptional skill… don’t ride out their careers in the shadows, as a single face in an overwhelming crowd. They don’t spend their time pushing the small loads up the hill in a place where nobody would notice if they were gone. True winners take on the toughest battles and turn the tide. They prove their skills and knowledge in a way that actually shows.

Why pay the highest possible transfer cost just to ride the coat tails of a winning server? You can’t claim to be skilled or knowledgeable or even lay claim to common sense by making that sort of move. Why not pay the lowest possible transfer cost, and move to a server where you can stand apart? Where your skills will shine. Where the contribution you make will be clear and measurable and significant?

If you think you’re a great leader, take a small server, one with tons of heart and server pride but a small population, and organize it into a successful team. Turn around a losing record and make a server competitive. If you have something to prove…if you think you’re good…that’s how you show it. I challenge anyone who claims to be a winner to prove it by actually turning losses into wins, rather than being a faceless winning_player_38902 on a server with the highest possible population.

Transfer to Ferguson’s crossing. We’ve fought valiantly against the forces of the rating system and overwhelming odds for months, and we’ve suffered from the snowball effect that losing causes in an environment where fair-weather players and guilds would rather join a team already winning than build one for themselves. If you want to truly make a difference, this is the place to do it. If you want to prove you’re good… if you are TRULY hardcore…this is the place to show it. Those left playing WvW on this server are the most dedicated, loyal, and stubborn players you will find anywhere. We refuse to give up and refuse to leave our server even with a ratings hole that seems insurmountable and the most lopsided populations in battles every day. Come play with us, make us stronger, and help us turn this server around into a competitive and popular place to play.

Build a great WvW server from the ground up. That’s the warrior’s way.

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Posted by: Cosmic.6047

Cosmic.6047

True words indeed !

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Posted by: DaBleuberry.1780

DaBleuberry.1780

I’m already in Ferguson’s Crossing but for some reason your words have inspired me to try and make a difference in World vs. World. If you would like to help me make it happen then think about joining The Ferg Mob [TFM] once you arrive. Just mail Lableuberry for an invitation.

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Posted by: Ynot.8397

Ynot.8397

Or go to ET, they need it too.

Ferguson’s Crossing→ SoS→ DR→ EBay

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Posted by: Rune Jairusion.4610

Rune Jairusion.4610

Has anet ever acknowledged this as a problem? I guess it sends people to other servers which now earns revenue for them. Kinda sad to just abandon some of your servers… :-/

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Posted by: Ikarushka.9564

Ikarushka.9564

great “You should pay gems to improve my WvW experience” speech I approve.

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Posted by: zen.6091

zen.6091

I would honestly support anet making transfers free to T8 servers with an uncompetitive matchup to help you guys out some.

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Posted by: ErlendR.6107

ErlendR.6107

Tooooooooooooog ><
I mean … Tooooo long

I would honestly support anet making transfers free to T8 servers with an uncompetitive matchup to help you guys out some.

+1000000 to zen
But i guess most of ppl will be transfer to Sorrow’s Furnace :S

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

Jeknar.6184

But i guess most of ppl will be transfer to Sorrow’s Furnace :S

Going to SF is likely the wrost thing a player can do… They will be forever stuck in a server that will never leave T8, and hardly can have some fun because they are either fully dominating due high numbers (PvDoor) or being pushed back.

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Posted by: pulsecodesgnl.3470

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Going to SF is likely the wrost thing a player can do… They will be forever stuck in a server that will never leave T8, and hardly can have some fun because they are either fully dominating due high numbers (PvDoor) or being pushed back.

I wouldn’t advise transfers to SF right now, the WvW population is becoming hostile because we are sick of it. Tired of losing rating for winning by a significant margin. That being said, even if ET or FC had enough transfers to be competitive, I can’t imagine any of our servers would pull our of tier 8 anytime soon, like say for the next 6 months or so, unless something dramatic changes on Anets end.

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Posted by: Detharos.3157

Detharos.3157

This has been done already. Look what happened to Kaineng.

Not necessarily. Eredon Terrace and Ferguson’s Crossing are tier 8 servers with currently, tier 8 WvW populations.

Kaineng had a tier 5 population before WM and all those transfers jumped to it, and was dominating even harder than Sorrow’s Furnace does, and would of eventually advanced to tier 5 to meet DR again. (Kain and DR throughout history were always closely matched like that.)

In other words, all those transfers to Kain did was reinforce a tier 5 server to even higher levels and accelerate its ascension from the tier 8 gap. The difference with FC and ET is, we’re not stuck in this hole with tier 5 populations. Both FC and ET have tier 8 populations at the moment in WvW, while Sorrow’s Furnace gravitates between being a tier 7 or tier 6 server depending on how well its doing, whether its bored or not, presence of PvE content hurting its showings, etc. So basically, an influx of transfers to FC or ET is not likely to drastically break tier 8, or cause a tier breaking ascension to tier 5+ like what happened with some other servers that already possessed populations surpassing the tier 8 standard. You can make a difference by transferring here without ruining it for everyone else in the server’s way, and that’s the difference from the other servers that ascended out of tier 8.

The big difference with true tier 8 servers that servers in tier 6 and up don’t really share (And make no mistake Kaineng and Devona’s Rest were NOT tier 8 populations, they were stuck in the rating gap here for months with tier 5 showings.) our numbers and time zone coverage are comparatively smaller to tier 6 and up servers. (I don’t believe for a minute that there is a drastic difference between true tier 7 servers when our morale is high though I daresay when DR and Kain were still here, FC had consistent tier 7 numbers showing up in WvW, and some extremely competent commanders who have since left the servers due to the ratings problem.)

Now, as for the transfer topic, both ET and FC are great destinations despite the rating problems. They have consistent WvW showings, only dropping significantly in times of broken morale, and usually recover from those phases within one-two weeks. Neither server even needs wins to sustain its population and keep them from transferring, something which can’t be said for many of the higher tiered servers. Despite the current disparity ET and FC will probably continue with the same effort for months on end, but of course we desire a more balanced, evenly split match-up with three servers of a similar WvW population and coverage. The problem with SF is that in its prime high-morale periods it yields arguably tier 6 numbers and timezone coverage, although its numbers have admittedly been dropping now that people there are coming to understand the rating problem they bare with Glicko2.

With some transfers, it may be possible for FC and ET to start pushing and even rival SF if the numbers are right. Namely with A LOT more coverage in that 12:00 PM-3:30 AM EST period where SF tends to cap a lot of undefended/poorly defended structures due to our lack of coverage. There were times where FC was able to go mano-a-mano with SF during NA prime time, but with some decreases in that period since due to one major guild abandoning and a few people transferring for other tiers due to the Glicko2 problems being less prevalent higher up, we could use some more NA coverage as well. I’m sure similar things can be said of ET.

Remember, tiers don’t matter in the long run, balanced match-ups do. There’s no shame in being in tier 8 we’re not as rich in WvW showings as some other servers, however we are NOT PvE carebears either. What we do desire closer, more exciting matches in this tier like those seen in tier 6 in previous weeks. And if transfers is a good means to that end, then so be it. However, people have to be willing to transfer to red and blue team servers, whatever the tier, if they truly want to claim that they prefer balanced match-ups. Have some guts and transfer to ET or FC, or servers like them in higher tiers. If people really want to enjoy a balanced match-up, so much so that they even whine in forums when they are bored of dominating, then why is it so commonly a first impulse of these same people to transfer to a green-team consistently winning rising star the moment their server meets a challenge?

Make the right choice. If anyone REALLY DOES want hardcore fights, no queues making for boring wait times, constant WvW action during server prime times, then give FC or ET a hit and stop riding the coattails of servers where you’re a non-factor to begin with. Make an investment somewhere you had not thought to look!

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Posted by: Fozzik.1742

Fozzik.1742

great “You should pay gems to improve my WvW experience” speech I approve.

I’m advocating that people who are already paying lots of gems to transfer for easy wins (which they have little control over or effect on) should instead pay much fewer gems to join a truly competitive battle that will test their skills and where they can honestly make a significant contribution to the server’s success. I’m trying to save them some money!

If they are going to pay gems to transfer…isn’t it a win/win for everyone if they transfer to T8? I think so.

I’m glad you approve. laughs

Make the right choice. If anyone REALLY DOES want hardcore fights, no queues making for boring wait times, constant WvW action during server prime times, then give FC or ET a hit and stop riding the coattails of servers where you’re a non-factor to begin with. Make an investment somewhere you had not thought to look!

Well said. If nothing else, people should clearly see that FC has the most…verbose WvW players around.

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Posted by: FilthyRat.4652

FilthyRat.4652

If you like good sportsmanship than FC is definitely the better choice between these two servers. They have skilled players and the lowest populated server of the three of us…I always would rather go against a Zerg of ET than a coordinated group of Fergs any day. Good luck this week FC hope the recent ET transfers doesn’t stop you from pulling into the blue this week.

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Posted by: crewthief.8649

crewthief.8649

I would honestly support anet making transfers free to T8 servers with an uncompetitive matchup to help you guys out some.

You should transfer to FC…I heard it takes 20+ people from JQ to kill you. LOL! You’d be unstoppable there!

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Posted by: Naffy.1493

Naffy.1493

Transferring to a winning server makes you a chode monkey. Transfering to a hopeless servers makes you an idiot.

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

Jeknar.6184

I would honestly support anet making transfers free to T8 servers with an uncompetitive matchup to help you guys out some.

You should transfer to FC…I heard it takes 20+ people from JQ to kill you. LOL! You’d be unstoppable there!

The individual skill level on JQ was very low last time BG was on T1… I had no problem handling equal or even slightly higher numbers while we were there.

Since you came use your irony (and brag about your server) i’ll take that chance to jab you. But i’ll gladly delete this post if you remove yours. (To not polute the thread).

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Posted by: crewthief.8649

crewthief.8649

I would honestly support anet making transfers free to T8 servers with an uncompetitive matchup to help you guys out some.

You should transfer to FC…I heard it takes 20+ people from JQ to kill you. LOL! You’d be unstoppable there!

The individual skill level on JQ was very low last time BG was on T1… I had no problem handling equal or even slightly higher numbers while we were there.

Since you came use your irony (and brag about your server) i’ll take that chance to jab you. But i’ll gladly delete this post if you remove yours. (To not polute the thread).

It was a sarcastic post aimed at the person I quoted, and did not involve you in the least. I never bragged about my server, why would you be so sensitive about this? I’m sure you’re as amazing as you claim to be. I’ve found that people who make such claims ALWAYS live up to them. LOL.

P.S. I’m not under some sort of illusion that the best players are in the top tiers. I understand what wins WvW in GW2, and i’m positive there are many quality players in the lower tiers. Don’t be so quick to jump to conclusions next time.

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Posted by: zen.6091

zen.6091

I would honestly support anet making transfers free to T8 servers with an uncompetitive matchup to help you guys out some.

You should transfer to FC…I heard it takes 20+ people from JQ to kill you. LOL! You’d be unstoppable there!

I wasn’t implying that I personally would transfer to T8. I would support transfers being free to T8 servers that are stuck in a rut so that it might entice some very casual players to transfer there with no monetary penalty vs. transferring somewhere else.

Whatever the case is, it’s not fair at at all that the T8 servers are stuck in a position where #1 loses rating by winning and #2 / #3 can’t possibly hope to win.

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Posted by: Venn.7623

Venn.7623

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/6106/gw016kl.jpg

Bullyin’ dat red team for 5+ hours tho

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

insanemaniac.2456

they got bullied off their own block so they came to ours since theyre a bit bigger bullies than us now

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Posted by: ghtchill.7613

ghtchill.7613

Hahaha. Don’t be a wimp transfer out of FC.

/salute to you.

TC

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