Guild Wars 2

Why is Dragonbrand imploding ?

Because a server full of bandwagoners always do when it reach it’s limit and can no longer win… It’s not new…

No linked server?

T3 will have YB now with a link doing some heavy PPT for the next two months because of the glicko wall that formed between T2 and T3. They’re not wrong for doing it, but should probably be swapped for FA far sooner than they will.

The people I know in T3 seen to be enjoying it’s current state despite the fact that YB is winning coverage wars. The fights are plenty and guilds are happy with that. Also if a server get tired of T3 they can drop to T4 which seen to be competitive to the T3 servers (CD was competitive with SBI and SoS and is competitive to HoD and NSP atm), unlike when the kittenstomp match was on T4 and there was nowhere to drop.

I’m sorry but it’s a fact that DB bought tons of ppt guilds over the years and worked their way up in the rankings. Kudos, but it’s caught up with them.

The DB server has always reminded me of this quote

“You have many slaves, Xerxes, but few warriors.”

it’s normal that servers “implode” when they aren’t winning. People leave for pve after whiping or if no commander is on and you cannot hold objectives against bigger numbers, on the opponent servers people often stay longer, if they are winning.
YB “hybernated” the last 2 months and now people play again, same thing seems to happen to DB now but I am sure they will come again.

Rink.6108:

YB “hybernated” the last 2 months and now people play again, same thing seems to happen to DB now but I am sure they will come again.

Asia will never betray Dragon!

2-3 weeks ago TC hibernated, 4-6 weeks ago BG hibernated. Nothing new to see here, DB plays hard and deserves some downtime too.

You would think they’d all hibernate at the same time if the goal is fun matches and good fights.

Dragonbrand will be okay and it’s not “imploding”. Before they went t1 they had a certain amount of guilds and a strong community. Some guild left yeah, but they’ll be okay. They still have their community. They don’t want to be t1 anymore and I don’t blame them. Being in T1 takes a lot of hard work and it can wear on you. Db will go T2 and it’ll be nicer for them.

No one “hibernates” on purpose. It’s normally due to boredom. Dragonbrand isn’t Hibernating. Their guilds aren’t sleeping at all. They are leaving. Leaving to other servers.

aandiarie.7195:

Dragonbrand will be okay and it’s not “imploding”. Before they went t1 they had a certain amount of guilds and a strong community. Some guild left yeah, but they’ll be okay. They still have their community. They don’t want to be t1 anymore and I don’t blame them. Being in T1 takes a lot of hard work and it can wear on you. Db will go T2 and it’ll be nicer for them.

By “community” you mean asians right? And by “not imploding” you mean like DB totally not imploded 3 times before?
History repeats itself. This is no surprise to anyone.

+1 no surprise
RIP DragonBrand.
Ps. I welcome any refugees from DragonBrand to tc with open arms.

BG starts losing – Dey hibernating!
TC starts losing – Dey hibernating! (at a good time too since they got a link)
DB starts losing – Dey imploding! call the rescue pound the cats and dogs are jumping ship! Dey the next YB!

Maybe the smaller DB guilds are tired of running into t1 blobs and having to voltron to counter it, hell I heard DN moved to t3 SoS. T2 will be a better place for DB, maybe it’s time Mag went for first lol rotate the dream!

This was bound to happen since DB is most stable server T2.

Rink.6108:

YB “hybernated” the last 2 months and now people play again

That was because DK stopped playing the game, and he’s apparently THE commander that motivates YB. He’s back now, and thus they’re back in business.

RyuDragnier.9476:

Rink.6108:

YB “hybernated” the last 2 months and now people play again

That was because DK stopped playing the game, and he’s apparently THE commander that motivates YB. He’s back now, and thus they’re back in business.

So basically you’re saying that YB is a one man show. DK plays, they do well. He quits, they implode. Doesn’t say much about the quality and stability of the server then.

That’s the power of “Celebrity Commanders”.

DK is a big influence on YB, but to set the facts straight, he’s not really playing much right now. Certainly not to the level he used to.

In all honestly, there are a bunch of folks on YB who are scratching their heads at the numbers we’re seeing right now as well. Either FC has quite a few more players than anyone knew, or we’ve got folks returning after a much longer than 2 month absence.

But it’s also the first week of the new link. Won’t mean anything until the current round of guild movements settle in and the new wears off.

Blah blah blah, ppt stress, grumble grumble

Hexalot.8194:

RyuDragnier.9476:

Rink.6108:

YB “hybernated” the last 2 months and now people play again

That was because DK stopped playing the game, and he’s apparently THE commander that motivates YB. He’s back now, and thus they’re back in business.

So basically you’re saying that YB is a one man show. DK plays, they do well. He quits, they implode. Doesn’t say much about the quality and stability of the server then.

The increase in activity probably had to do with their linking.

Their activity has increased 40% since the linking and is currently the highest in NA. And their activity (at least my calculations) is about 10% higher than the next highest NA server, Blackgate.

Life in T3 will be miserable for SoS and SBI since YB is currently 40% higher than them in activity. And the glicko wall will keep YB in T3 for a while.

BTW dragonbrand’s activity has dropped 40% since linking.

TorquedSoul.8097:

Hexalot.8194:

RyuDragnier.9476:

Rink.6108:

YB “hybernated” the last 2 months and now people play again

That was because DK stopped playing the game, and he’s apparently THE commander that motivates YB. He’s back now, and thus they’re back in business.

So basically you’re saying that YB is a one man show. DK plays, they do well. He quits, they implode. Doesn’t say much about the quality and stability of the server then.

The increase in activity probably had to do with their linking.

Their activity has increased 40% since the linking and is currently the highest in NA. And their activity (at least my calculations) is about 10% higher than the next highest NA server, Blackgate.

Life in T3 will be miserable for SoS and SBI since YB is currently 40% higher than them in activity. And the glicko wall will keep YB in T3 for a while.

BTW dragonbrand’s activity has dropped 40% since linking.

false averaging 150 bags a night farming YB and SoS I’m sincerely enjoying this matchup if they wanna siege up a tower or keep go for it, ill take the bags thank you just don’t touch my waypoints its a pain in the butt to walk that extra 10 feet

TorquedSoul.8097:

BTW dragonbrand’s activity has dropped 40% since linking.

At least 3 guilds have left DB apparently. Or at least that’s what the “reports” we’re getting from friends on other servers are saying.

RyuDragnier.9476:

TorquedSoul.8097:

BTW dragonbrand’s activity has dropped 40% since linking.

At least 3 guilds have left DB apparently. Or at least that’s what the “reports” we’re getting from friends on other servers are saying.

I have has seen a few DB guild tags on SoS now, including DAWN. Not sure if SoS is actively recruiting or what but that seems to be the place people are migrating to.

When DN moved to DB we were very adamant about not wanting to go to T1. We stated if DB were ever to go to T1 we would be leaving.

It’s the ebb and flow of WvW servers. It isn’t imploding, it’s just going back to a tier it can be sustained in.

grifflyman.8102:

I have has seen a few DB guild tags on SoS now, including DAWN. Not sure if SoS is actively recruiting or what but that seems to be the place people are migrating to.

I can confirm DN here as well. To clarify we were not recruited and AFAIK none of the other guilds coming here were either.

Xenesis.6389:

…..Maybe the smaller DB guilds are tired of running into t1 blobs and having to voltron to counter it, hell I heard DN moved to t3 SoS……

This is the exact reason we left. Even when groups were split up before they’d voltron if you ever got one over on them. It was not fun, it was affecting morale in the guild and, like before, we decided to move instead of mass recruit. :P

T1 is cancer, a lot of these Tier 1.5 – Tier 2 servers that get “promoted” to T1 break up and go through this. This time it’s Dragonbrand, as it does not belong in T1. But hey thank Anet, think anybody there cares? Or maybe they do care, but they just don’t understand WvW enough to know how bad Blackgate is to the game mode.

Things are the way they are in T1 is a result of the system. No worries though, someone at the company is happy all these guilds spent gems to transfer. Working as intended.

This is Dragonband’s 5th implosion.

They’ve lost 4-5 guilds already.

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

No one “hibernates” on purpose. It’s normally due to boredom. Dragonbrand isn’t Hibernating. Their guilds aren’t sleeping at all. They are leaving. Leaving to other servers.

All T1 servers hibernated to some degree around HOT to open up, and servers have done it since.

gavyne.6847:

T1 is cancer, a lot of these Tier 1.5 – Tier 2 servers that get “promoted” to T1 break up and go through this. This time it’s Dragonbrand, as it does not belong in T1. But hey thank Anet, think anybody there cares? Or maybe they do care, but they just don’t understand WvW enough to know how bad Blackgate is to the game mode.

Things are the way they are in T1 is a result of the system. No worries though, someone at the company is happy all these guilds spent gems to transfer. Working as intended.

DB was dominating t2 matchups, was open for transfers, and had a linked server. They came up to t1, stayed open for a month with a linked server, won several weeks, ran massive blobs throughout the day…and somehow this is Blackgate’s fault that their bandwagon couldn’t sustain the momentum? Did you really expect DB to keep its link? As stated before, many guilds on DB did not want to be in t1 and said they would leave if db remained there, stop blaming other servers for coming out to play and beating you, blame internal conflicts.

I bet DBs ocx and sea don’t want to go back down, its a wasteland in T2 and below for those timezones.

Really the only servers who seem to want to be t1 and enjoy it’s blob play style is BG TC JQ, and really after spending so much time up there by themselves building for that style of blob play it’s to be expected for other servers to falter after a while, YB and DB. Can JQ rebuild their NA to stay up there? they’re open again, or will Mag push up there by default when DB drops.

Xenesis.6389:

Really the only servers who seem to want to be t1 and enjoy it’s blob play style is BG TC JQ, and really after spending so much time up there by themselves building for that style of blob play it’s to be expected for other servers to falter after a while, YB and DB. Can JQ rebuild their NA to stay up there? they’re open again, or will Mag push up there by default when DB drops.

NA prime in T1 is blobby as hell but OCX/SEA actually isn’t that blobby and is the only tier where there is consistent action. If you’re looking for GvGs in OCX for example, T1 is the only place where you can do it (eN/LATE/TF/KnM etc).

If you want blob fights in SEA? T1 is the only place for it. Every other tier is PvDoor and that’s boring. There is a reason most OCX/SEA players transfer UP not down and it isn’t to PvDoor or win the PPT. It’s for people to play with/against.

What NA prime people fail to understand is, there is extremely low population of OCX/SEA players nowadays such that even to congregate on 3 servers there’d be maybe 1 map queue on each, or 2 if lucky. This is evident in all game modes, there aren’t enough of us to go around unlike NA. We don’t have that luxury to move to different tiers.

So sure you can cheer for DB’s collapse and look at it as lol wagonbrand kek but in the end all this NA bandwagoning is hurting OCX/SEA players on JQ/DB who just want to play the game really.

Also now with the linking business going on there’s no more stability of T1 so if you get a bad roll week then that’s basically no action the entire week (eg. JQ capped 10 keeps in SEA on a Saturday night). But yeah yeah PPT PPT PPT scoring changes blah blah is all NA ever cares about.

X T D.6458:

DB was dominating t2 matchups, was open for transfers, and had a linked server. They came up to t1, stayed open for a month with a linked server, won several weeks, ran massive blobs throughout the day…and somehow this is Blackgate’s fault that their bandwagon couldn’t sustain the momentum? Did you really expect DB to keep its link? As stated before, many guilds on DB did not want to be in t1 and said they would leave if db remained there, stop blaming other servers for coming out to play and beating you, blame internal conflicts.

I believe I blamed the tier, you don’t need to get touchy just because I mentioned BG. I have chars on BG, I know what’s going on there on that server. There’s no server ingame atm that’s as stacked as BG is.

But aside from that T1 is cancer for most servers because of how blobby they are, how much politics & drama there is between guilds, and many servers are really just tier 1.5 or 2 so they won’t have a good time in T1.

ocx/sea is another issue altogether, because there’s not enough of them to spread throughout multiple tiers.

I mean all the talk about scoring changes upcoming, yet if Anet doesn’t resolve these server balance issues & coverage wars, not much will change for people that still play WvW.

gavyne.6847:

Or maybe they do care, but they just don’t understand WvW enough to know how bad Blackgate is to the game mode.

I’ll just leave this here. You did say specifically BG, he wasn’t touchy to question it. Say what you mean.

fishball.7204:

Xenesis.6389:

Really the only servers who seem to want to be t1 and enjoy it’s blob play style is BG TC JQ, and really after spending so much time up there by themselves building for that style of blob play it’s to be expected for other servers to falter after a while, YB and DB. Can JQ rebuild their NA to stay up there? they’re open again, or will Mag push up there by default when DB drops.

NA prime in T1 is blobby as hell but OCX/SEA actually isn’t that blobby and is the only tier where there is consistent action. If you’re looking for GvGs in OCX for example, T1 is the only place where you can do it (eN/LATE/TF/KnM etc).

If you want blob fights in SEA? T1 is the only place for it. Every other tier is PvDoor and that’s boring. There is a reason most OCX/SEA players transfer UP not down and it isn’t to PvDoor or win the PPT. It’s for people to play with/against.

What NA prime people fail to understand is, there is extremely low population of OCX/SEA players nowadays such that even to congregate on 3 servers there’d be maybe 1 map queue on each, or 2 if lucky. This is evident in all game modes, there aren’t enough of us to go around unlike NA. We don’t have that luxury to move to different tiers.

So sure you can cheer for DB’s collapse and look at it as lol wagonbrand kek but in the end all this NA bandwagoning is hurting OCX/SEA players on JQ/DB who just want to play the game really.

Also now with the linking business going on there’s no more stability of T1 so if you get a bad roll week then that’s basically no action the entire week (eg. JQ capped 10 keeps in SEA on a Saturday night). But yeah yeah PPT PPT PPT scoring changes blah blah is all NA ever cares about.

Ocx, sea is actually a very loose term. People always go “Asians” “Asians” but how many are REALLY Asians lol. This game is really unfriendly to people outside of NA and getting unfriendlier by the minute.

fishball.7204:

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That might be true for BG TC JQ who stocked up on all their timezones over the years. Except DB’s ocx/sea crew didn’t transfer on the way up, they’ve been riding that server up and down since the beginning, and for the most part stuck to the middle tiers. Sure some guilds have moved over the years but for the most part their crew stuck around on DB for whatever reasons, while their NA constantly came in and out with the implosions. I’m sure the ocx/sea people who were really interested in fights were up in t1 way before DB got to t1 anyways. All servers have been open at some point and I’m sure will be open again in the future.

DB’s NA guilds weren’t interested in ppting for the most part, they wanted the smaller fights for their smaller sized guilds, that’s why a chunk of them moved from kitten t2 then off t2 to DB when they were like t4/5. They didn’t go to DB with the intention to bringing it to t1. But clearly t1 servers are not interested in those type of fights, so DB guilds will move to more proper settings for their guilds.

I know BG would like to have DB stay up, but sorry players are not going to be BG and TC blob playthings. If DB ocx/sea are serious about staying up in t1 now, either move to one of the actual t1 servers, or get some actual NA ppt guilds in.

DB NA → bandwagon to JQ NA kthxbai

Oh look, another salty “what happened to ____?” thread.

The answer is always: you bandwagoned harder.

DB ded server RIP in pieces

It can’t be that dead if TC is doing only doing marginally better than them.

morrolan.9608:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

No one “hibernates” on purpose. It’s normally due to boredom. Dragonbrand isn’t Hibernating. Their guilds aren’t sleeping at all. They are leaving. Leaving to other servers.

All T1 servers hibernated to some degree around HOT to open up, and servers have done it since.

TC doesn’t Hibernate to open up. Rather TC hasn’t hibernated to open up. As a server we’ve had a self conscious break. Meaning that without coordinating some of our main commanders and leaders didn’t play during the past few weeks. I was one of them and had a business trip that lasted 3 weeks. Other guilds decided to take a break to play other games just just came out

BG has been as inconsistent as anyone else yet they have more coverage than everyone else.

DB isn’t hibernating it’s losing guilds for more than 1 reason. Those reasons aren’t important for this response and I’m sure they are different from 1 guild to the next.

To say servers coordinately hibernate to play the population system is wrong. All the guilds on each of the respective servers and the servers as a whole play as they see fit for a multitude of reasons that go way beyond the scope of just generally playing GW2 as it is.

Sorry if no one believes the timing of the break right before a relink. Once a manipulator….

Deli.1302:

It can’t be that dead if TC is doing only doing marginally better than them.

DB for a while now were a consistent first or second place for most of their time in t1. Now there are almost 30k pts behind the second place server TC and headed in the wrong direction (or right one, depending on who there wants to go back to t2).

Liston.9708:

Sorry if no one believes the timing of the break right before a relink. Once a manipulator….

You can believe what you want to believe. Tin foil hats are always fun too

Just curious, what servers have large OCX SEA guilds actively outside of t1, JQ, and SoS?

What was the driving factor for groups from DB to move away from battles? Are there some opponents your hunting for equal level fights?

The ocx/sea (aussie, kiwis, asians) were the chill ones on a server. Dunno why peeps hated on them but needed them for the carry. It’s the NA kids that forget to take their meds that cause all the drama. Wish we had more asians tbh.

shiri.4257:

The ocx/sea (aussie, kiwis, asians) were the chill ones on a server. Dunno why peeps hated on them but needed them for the carry. It’s the NA kids that forget to take their meds that cause all the drama. Wish we had more asians tbh.

Because of the need for coverage, OCX/SEA being a smaller gaming population then NA makes them very important for servers. And with some servers like DB and JQ who have been historically carried by their overnight crew, it can also cause issues. Since the OCX/SEA populations are smaller it is natural for them to want to be in higher tiers for a more competitive and active environment, which can put them at odds with the NA playerbase which is more likely to deal with heavy blobbing during their timezone, this is the current case with DB, where a lot of guilds wanted to stay in t2 and threatened to leave DB if it stayed in T1, however this put them at odds with their OCX/SEA which wanted to stay in t1.

I am on BG, and I love our OCX/SEA players, they will go all out to help the server, and are really excellent players.

Has there been statements from DB ocx that they want to stay in t1? or are the t1 servers just assuming and talking on their behalf?

Cause they have been on DB all this time from when it was riding from t5-2-5-1. If they really wanted to be in t1 like all the other current t1 ocx populations I’m sure they would have moved long ago. It’s the same thing with SoS and their crew, the people who wanted to moved did so already, the ones who are left are happy where they are no matter where the server went.

If it’s a case that they do want to stay in t1 they have choices, move to another t1 mainstay server, or recruit more NA guilds who want to be in t1. The NA guilds leaving are the ones that run 15-25 and want to fight 15-25’s not 40-50.