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Posted by: Karahol.9840

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Are the 5 stacks of fortitude + 25 stacks of bloodlust making a duel unfair or not?
My case is between two warriors where the one has them, the other does not. Is the second warrior at a clear disadvantage or not?
Is there any way to compensate with skill or probably not? And i don’t mean noob warriors with random build, but against axe/shield + gs for example.

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Posted by: sephiroth.4217

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Personally I don’t mind if the enemy has stacks, it’s the challenge of dueling that I like and if it’s harder to win then that’s fine, more to learn from the mistakes I made cause I would feel them more.

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Posted by: Talyn.3295

Talyn.3295

WvW wasn’t built to be about single players. I realize alot of people like to roam or to duel there. And due to many factors it is gonna be imbalanced. Doesn’t matter if its Bloodlust, or guardstacks or weapon stacks, and food, etc.

When you run across that other player you don’t know what kind of gear they are running. It could be an uplevel. It might be someone in ascended a new 80 wearing all greens and blues. It happens.

The imbalance goes both ways. I learned a while ago not to take it personally. On my thief I enjoy it.

But on my guardian since we can’t respec on the fly yet and I am ask to cap blood lust I end up running into the Ruins with a support build.

Granted I am extremely hard to kill, but I do next to no damage. I have to rely on my hammer or shield to control people who try to cap my node.

WvW will never be fair and balanced. But that is exactly why I enjoy it so much.

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Posted by: Karahol.9840

Karahol.9840

Not disagreeing about the challenge. That’s why i also engage in such lopsided duels. The thing i want to know is if it’s impossible to win someone experienced who has the upperhand or these two buffs can be negligible.
My question is about the limit of skill in WvW, not a complaint about unfairness in it.

PS. don’t want to hear about mesmers who spam stealth pls.

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Posted by: mango.9267

mango.9267

I never use consumables/stacks in duels because 90% of the time, the build/skill of the player determines the winner (I want to say it’s mostly build). That said, for closer duels, yes, consumables and stacks do make a significant difference.

Fight club etiquette is that consumables are allowed, but stacks are not. The reason, I imagine, is that the loser loses his stacks on down, so it’d just be really annoying for him to regain his stacks every time he loses. With the changes to guard stacks, this rule might change to only forbid weapon stacks (not that it matters if you’re dueling in OS).

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Posted by: Reborn.2934

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duels depend from condition apply and condition removal ability of the character .this is the first and the last thing that someone must know before start a duel

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Posted by: Afrowizard.1062

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Of course any amount of skill could beat a medium buff such as +250 stats and 2.5k HP. It will indubitably be harder than if you were on an even playing field, but as mentioned before, WvW duels never is, are, or will be equal.

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Posted by: melodey.4652

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Stacks in duels are a no no unless you’ve agreed to use them. Those guard stacks add thousands of HP onto your bar, equivalent to extra bits of armor. Yes, the player without them is at a disadvantage. +250 power is kind of a big deal if you’re on the bunkery side. The solution is to either duel in OS and remove your stacks or to allow the other player to down you and walk away to remove them.
Consumables (food/utility food) are fair game, especially because many classes are imbalanced when it comes to removing conditions, so most people who are running a build without good condi cleanse will run lemongrass food. But bring an armor booster to a duel and prepare for frowny faces.

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Posted by: Dee Jay.2460

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I don’t like the Guard stacks either for this reason. It’s completely contrived and dilutes what would otherwise be a slightly difference balance.

More than that though I hate the Bloodlust stacks and thse “leet” roamers who refuse to fight unless fully stacked and go PvE for 5 minutes every time they respawn.

Can’t wait for that to go.

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Posted by: Zord.6130

Zord.6130

I don’t care imho. I usually fight in the OS, so situations like these are rare. Still, if I’m facing a spec that I “can” beat I usually don’t use food buffs, just to make it harder

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Posted by: Mogar.9216

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I have dueled a few times where my opponent got rid of his/her stacks first. I don’t care either way. But if you are dueling to get better there is no reason to use stacks as a crutch.

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Posted by: T raw.4658

T raw.4658

Just in a power perspective.

Full stacks is +350 Power and 2.5k hps

Huge advantage and should not be used in fair duels