Guild Wars 2

Looks like we are the only one not having a topic for the league. Here is my prediction:

1) Viz
2) Sfr
3) RS
4) ER
5) JS
6) Deso
7) Kodash
8) BB
9) AR

1) green
2) bue
3) red

1) Viz
2) Sfr
3) RS
4) ER
5) JS
6) Kodash
7) BB
8) Deso
9) AR

I am on SFR, I predict:-

1) Viz
2) Sfr
3) Deso
4) JS
5) RS
6) ER
7) BB
8) Kodash
9) AR

1)Vizunah Square
2)Seafarer’s Rest
3)Jade Sea
4)Riverside
5)Elona Reach
6)Kodash
7)Baruch Bay
8)Desolation
9)Augury Rock

1) Sfr
2) Riverside
3) Vizunah – Jade Sea
5) Kodash
6) Elona
7) Barush Bay
8) Desolation
9) Augury Rock

Don’t really know where Deso stands.

I don’t see how Vizu would suddenly be able to take on SFR in this season.

1)Seafarer’s Rest
2)Vizunah Square
3)Elona Reach
4)Riverside
5)Kodash
6)Jade Sea
7)Baruch Bay
8)Desolation
9)Augury Rock

Vroum.2906:

Don’t really know where Deso stands.

I don’t think anybody knows for certain. Desolation is quite unique:

Outside Season 1, Desolation has consistently been outnumbered against lower ranked (= Silver League) EU servers, but Desolation has won most of these match ups with relative ease, because Desolation has better coverage and a good-sized night team. Many silver league servers, like Gandara, have strong prime time, but also weak hours, when they can loose everything. Desolation some North American players and Russian guilds as well. I am myself soon traveling to China and maybe soon Desolation has Chinese players (the Chinese can also access EU servers from China, at least I could on my previous visit). ;-)

Desolation is the unofficial pve capital of EU and we have very big and active pve population. Desolation has been and still is #1 pvp.

The biggest wild card however is the non-core WvWvW players. Last time in Season #1, Desolation, got massive influx of pve players coming to WvWvW. This probably earned us a wrong reputation, “all Desolation players run in berserker armor”, which is of course far from truth. Most of our core players use PVT armor.

If we get as big influx of players to WvWvW, we might end up anywhere from #3 to #6. Desolation lacks numbers to win against mega stacked servers like SFR. But besides Desolation, only Vizunah and Jade Sea are PuG-oriented servers in the gold league. The guild oriented servers are in big disadvantage against PuG-oriented servers, because many guilds might get tired to the very long queues and not getting their guild members to same map. Thus they might end up changing servers or even going to EotM.

Another wild card is possible transfers:

I do not expect any large transfers after the leagues have started, but during 28th March and 30th May, the transfer price to EU rank #7-9 servers will be mere 1000 gems. See:
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/get-ready-for-wvw-spring-tournament-2014/

Transfer price to rank #1-3 servers is massive 2400 gems. And everybody knows the TOP3 will be so stacked, it will be almost dreadfully long queues.

Out of rank #7-#9, aka cheap transfer price EU gold servers, Desolation has the biggest appeal. Almost no queues outside the leagues. We are International, have very well-organized server wide co-operation & scouting & border hopping for WvWvW, server wide TeamSpeak, good coverage and the potential for massive blobs. I think all the Da Pain Train [PT] members have already been investing on bigger loot bags:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/recruitment/PT-Da-Pain-Train-recruiting-on-Desolation/

Here are my predictions:
1. Vizunah Square
2. Seafarer’s Rest
3. Riverside
4. Elona Reach
5. Kodash
6. Jade Sea
7. Desolation
8. Baruch Bay
9. Augury Rock

(This assumes Desolation pve and pvp population will be sleeping )

Xanoris.2379:

I don’t see how Vizu would suddenly be able to take on SFR in this season.

1)Seafarer’s Rest
2)Vizunah Square

You have a lot to learn…WvW apprentice…

So many players have said that previously, only to kow tow to there Vizunah overlords at the end of any vaguely competitive event in WvW ever…

I heard weird rumor that Nicolas Sarkozy will arrange big party when visuna wins. He has already printed 30k season 2 champion shirts.

Junkpile.7439:

I heard weird rumor that Nicolas Sarkozy arrange big party when visuna wins. He has already printed 30k season 2 champion shirts.

A bunga bunga party? Oh wait…I have got that wrong, haven’t I…

Meglobob.8620:

Junkpile.7439:

I heard weird rumor that Nicolas Sarkozy arrange big party when visuna wins. He has already printed 30k season 2 champion shirts.

A bunga bunga party? Oh wait…I have got that wrong, haven’t I…

It’s toga party.

1) Viz
2) SFR
3) Kodash
4) JS
5) RS
6) ER
7) Deso
8) BB
9) AR

Good luck y’all, may you all unleash your zombies of whatever quantity!

Our Pugs are not that well organized btw, we all know it takes a more than Population to be able to compete in Gold.
During Season 1 we got steamrolled during prime time – it depends how long the Pugs will stay motivated and willing to cooperate besides joining the Zerg.

1)Seafarer’s Rest
2)Riverside
3)Vizunah Square
4)Elona Reach
5)Kodash
6)Jade Sea
7)Desolation
8)Baruch Bay
9)Augury Rock

1) SFR
2) Riverside (just because Anet will not disqualify them)
3) JS
4) Viz
5) Elona Reach
6) Kodash
7) Desolation
8) Baruch Bay
9) AR

No clue, but hopefully a legit server will win.

1) Seafarer’s Rest
2) Riverside
3) Vizunah Square
4) Kodash
5) Elona Reach
6) Jade Sea
7) Desolation
8) Baruch Bay
9) Augury Rock

1) SFR
2) VS or RS
3) VS or RS
4) Desolation
5) JS or ER or Kodash
6) JS or ER or Kodash
7) JS or ER or Kodash
8) BB
9) AR

1) Seafarer’s Rest
2) Vizunah Square
3) Desolation
4) Riverside
5) Kodash
6) Elona Reach
7) Jade Sea
8) Baruch Bay
9) Augury Rock

I don’t know where Desolation stands, right now we have an amazing lead in the current match up and if we can keep it up we have a good chance in winning the next.
It’s hard to judge where we will land because we could really end up anywhere.

1)Vizunah Square
2)Seafarer’s Rest
3)Jade Sea
4)Riverside
5)Elona Reach
6)desolation
7)kodash
8)baruch bay
9)Augury Rock

not sure about deso, but we are doing well in the current matchup

In general, I predict French and German servers to be top dogs here like every season. If the server has one native language which everyone understands, it’s pretty normal that people may be a little bit more coordinated and willing to play. Look at Blacktide back in the days – Non-official Polish/Russian server and was pretty much #1. Native communities left and now the server is at the bottom.

Vizu is #1. Not by players’ personal skills or something. It’s just that they ave megablob rolling across all maps 48/7

Deso will be somewhere around 6th place I believe

1) Cheater #1
2) Cheater #2
3) Legit #1
4) Legit #2
5) Legit #3
6) Random Looser #1
7) Random Looser #2
8) PvE only pop server #1
9) PvE only pop server #2

Throughout the weekend Deso came out in strong numbers, but I doubt think we’ll have the same numbers throughout the Tournament.

Tonight we faced massive BB numbers on multiple maps and got overstretched, the only other thing is that AR has little to no coverage besides prime time so it’s between us and BB – who do not have much early morning Coverage.

purecontact.1680:

1) Cheater #1
2) Cheater #2
3) Legit #1
4) Legit #2
5) Legit #3
6) Random Looser #1
7) Random Looser #2
8) PvE only pop server #1
9) PvE only pop server #2

Totally agree, the first two servers do that cheat (more the future 2nd than the 1st). No glory. In reality, all servers cheats a bit because of some players. But some much more than others. It is a pity but we know anything about it (or not much). Good luck to all the other servers, there is even a 3rd place to play yet.

My prediction

1. Seafarer’s Rest
2. Riverside (no glory)
3. Vizunah Square (manipulate) or Jade Sea
4. Vizunah Square or Jade Sea
5. Elona Reach or Desolation
6. Elona Reach or Desolation
7. Kodash
8. Baruch Bay
9. Augury Rock

1. Seafarer
2. Vizunah
3. Riverside
4. Jade
5. Elona
6. Kodash
7. Baruch
8. Deso
9. Augury

1. sfr

proof ?

I haven’t logged in a lot since the last season but at this point it looks like SFR is pretty stronk, so I’d say:
1. SFR
2. Viz
3. Jade
4. Riverside
5. Elona
6. Deso
7. Kodash
8. BB
9.Augury Rock

Also, what happened to Viz?
I heard they had some sort of internal problems. Is Troma still chief paladin?

Since they removed the match-up forums it’s hard to learn what’s happening on other servers.

We have http://www.gw2wvw.net/forum but it’s not as Active in the EU section.

Troma retired a while ago so it seems as though they aren’t as strong as they once were looking at your current match-up.
Maybe they will rally later on, who knows where they will finish?

Deso itself has potential to finish higher than the last 3, but no higher than 5th really. I’m looking forward to meeting SFR once again, at least we know where we belong.

1) SFR – strongest wvw coverage EU atm
2) Riverside – will never focus SFR to stay 2nd all the time
3) Vizuna – lost its power after season 1
4) Jade – dont know what to say here, overall strong server in every section
5) Desolation – the big unknown. i expect much from deso
6) Baruch Bay – weak prime time, strong night and morning crew
7) Kodash / Elona Reach – ER stronger in PPT, Kodash in “points not from tick”
8) Elona Reach / Kodash – ER stronger in PPT, Kodash in “points not from tick”
9) AR – the underdog, but you never know. i love to fight AR

Mint Rubber.6543:

Also, what happened to Viz?
I heard they had some sort of internal problems. Is Troma still chief paladin?

Since they removed the match-up forums it’s hard to learn what’s happening on other servers.

I am on SFR and fighting Viz this week’s been unusal…no massive 100+ strong blobs on every map painting it there entire colour…it looks like a lot of French players for whatever reason are no longer playing WvW.

A bit sad really…also bad news for GW2/Anet…wonder if a lot have deserted to ESO? I know there were a lot of complaints by other nationalities about Anet’s lack of communication in languages other than English about what was going on.

Vizunah
-> lost a few guilds
-> has ridiculous intern dissents because of a few people’s oversized ego.
-> still has enough motivated people and guilds to win the tournament or at least achieve top3

Vizunah
-> is subject to a huge 1v2 operation organized by its current enemies (SFR, Riverside). Not a simple 1v2 that’s an obvious strategy in a given map at a given time and doesn’t imply any communication, but an all-maps organized 1v2 (yesterday evening was obvious)
-> is subject to DDOS attacks on its TS servers (vizu-wide and guild servers)
-> is facing servers that seem to make a wider use of cheats (so-called “dezoom-hack”, “fly hack”, …). Regarding this last issue, and given that the tournament is going on, it would be nice if a few GMs could survey WvW so they can actually see cheaters and ban them. (GMs would do this at least until the end of tournament or until bugs are fixed)

A moderation on the cheat is of course useful but however not sufficient to eject a maximum of players using the “cheat”. There are many anti cheat today, why Arenanet does still not use one? 1 year and a half after the release of the game the cheat is still as this see more. What will happen if you do nothing, you will simply start all servers “challenger” gold or any League simply to leave everything players who actually play for their server without using the cheat as a way to win. There is room for 9 servers in the lower leagues, if you really want to have a future League gold deserted and or just the cheat will reign to play victory, continue just like that. For me this League is already more worthless in 1 week, give the same rewards to everyone at the end of the League would be more correct or simply repeat the same matches if you won’t.

Eowin Of Rohan.2619:

Vizunah
-> lost a few guilds
-> has ridiculous intern dissents because of a few people’s oversized ego.
-> still has enough motivated people and guilds to win the tournament or at least achieve top3

Vizunah
-> is subject to a huge 1v2 operation organized by its current enemies (SFR, Riverside). Not a simple 1v2 that’s an obvious strategy in a given map at a given time and doesn’t imply any communication, but an all-maps organized 1v2 (yesterday evening was obvious)
-> is subject to DDOS attacks on its TS servers (vizu-wide and guild servers)
-> is facing servers that seem to make a wider use of cheats (so-called “dezoom-hack”, “fly hack”, …). Regarding this last issue, and given that the tournament is going on, it would be nice if a few GMs could survey WvW so they can actually see cheaters and ban them. (GMs would do this at least until the end of tournament or until bugs are fixed)

Yep, i think the reasons for VS being where they are atm are various, but I can only chuckle at the 2v1 accusations.

In S1 SFR was fighting a new server called Pikunah Square. But people tend to forget quickly…

Grok.6714:

Yep, i think the reasons for VS being where they are atm are various, but I can only chuckle at the 2v1 accusations.

In S1 SFR was fighting a new server called Pikunah Square. But people tend to forget quickly…

In S1 there have been some 2v1, yes. Circumstantial2v1 (= obvious strategy at a given time on a given map, not an organized 2v1) as far as I know.
And even if there has been an organized 2v1 that I’m not aware of, it was just as bad and I don’t support it!

In any case, no matter if something similar happened in the past, an organized 2v1 is a bad thing and shouldn’t be done (especially in conjunction with teamspeak DDOS!). The “past” you assume me to have “forgotten” doesn’t change whether or not what’s happening right now is a bad, blameworthy thing.

Well Deso is winning from BB atm

Dark FQ.1038:

Well Deso is winning from BB atm

Deso = Achievement hunters. Tournement ap’s = queues on deso (while normally not). I dunno however if they can keep it up though In a few weeks ap hunters might stop, cause they completed their stuff.

Piken didn’t double team. They chose to fight SFR becaues you guys fight better (compliment), and vizunah square builded siege (Ac) everywhere, to make battles so boring that everyone gave up to take their kitten. Vizunah was never nr 1 server (except maybe coverage), they just won because political advantages. They know how to demoralize one server, and make him fight the other server and leave vizunah alone. I’m glad Troma is gone. Nothing against that person, but his actions, made vizunah square such an invulnerable opponents, that the atmoshere in wvw got really toxic. I guess it’s one of the reasons, wvw ‘matchups’ got closed. Every time i see vizunah nr2-4 I think ‘good riddance, the titan is finally down’.

so i cant help to reply on this silly subject, but sfr, and rs probably also, dont organise an double teaming. rs doesnt attack us, so far i know of (sfr) cuz they wanna be second. which is a smart choice of them. and well, we of sfr got a little score to settle with vizu anyways from season one. I havent been playing much wvw but came back for the season to farm those epic 100+ vizu blobs, and sorry to say but im a bit dissapointed in you guys. where are you??? i have to walk to your garri to pull you out xD

so ive been commanding like 3-4 times since i came back (came back on saturday i guess? ) and been in vizu border mostly. I commanded there yesterdaynight also, dont know if you were there, but we didnt do any double team the evening started boring because of no vizu on the map. RS flipped garri few times, and so did we. had some fights with their guilds Dayz and another one, and after a while i tihnk 21:00+ vizu started to wake up on the map, had a really nice fight inside garri, was a 3way fight, and really enjoyed myself there commanding. when in there i dont look speciffically for you vizunians, i look where an enemy is, and do what i like to do in wvw, simple. havent seen much double focus on a garri or whatever so far, only once maybe on garri, but when RS wiped we didnt see them anymore and SFR stayed on garri for an hour or 3 till it was capped. (i think that was sunday or monday?)

about the doubleteaming ! i think vizu has nothing to say in this at all at first instance, i woke up in league @ 6 am to find a breached ebg keep of us, with on one side vizunah, and on the other side piken. and im not talking about a few groups, im talking about 2 organised blobs. both 60 – 80 men, waiting. if 1 pushed and put pressure somewhere, the other one went to our spawnpoint and farmed ppl who came in, nothing else. this is just an example, more of this happened. imo i didnt mind it, i had the greatest fun in S1, piken attacks wildcreek, we wipe piken, cant even breathe or vizu is at klovan, we go klovan we wipe vizu, and back to wildcreek to farm piken some more. i kinda was expecting a little bit more of that gameplay from you guys cuz well, who doesnt like to get some kills and well, once in a while every server will be a kittenhead and spawncamp you, just to pleasure you a bit to make your blood boil, even i did it to piken once, but that was more because i capped everything there already even their keep and they had to step up their game a bit or leave the map ^^ but thats how the game goes. there are, ofcourse more examples of double teaming etc but not gonna name them all. i think we all know SFR community wants to play fair, ofc we get some rotten apples here n there but even our community will spit em out, thats how it goes here. same with the whole DDOS crap etc. just play it fair guys. have some fun. if u cant win, go find a way to become better as a server or a group and strike a finishing blow with passion into the enemy <3

(btw nice vizu picture there with 3 ac haha xD)

Atmosphera.4089:

(btw nice vizu picture there with 3 ac haha xD)

4 acs, the one manned on the right blocks another one.

Valheru Baal.9456:

Atmosphera.4089:

(btw nice vizu picture there with 3 ac haha xD)

4 acs, the one manned on the right blocks another one.

Welcome to Player Versus Arrow Cart.

That’s what you face off against everytime when you play vs Vizunah.

They designed the new PvA content.

Eowin Of Rohan.2619:

Vizunah
-> is subject to a huge 1v2 operation organized by its current enemies (SFR, Riverside). Not a simple 1v2 that’s an obvious strategy in a given map at a given time and doesn’t imply any communication, but an all-maps organized 1v2 (yesterday evening was obvious)

This made me laugh, It’s called Karma. We all know what happened in Season 1.

My bets our on SFR, My old home, being a long time since it was, but i miss that place, Maybe one day we might return. It’s changed alot now though, but still rooting for them.

Also DDOS happens, Every single server i’ve been on seems to suffer from a DDOS attack on the TS/Community site, happened on the PeVePe.Net site and TS many times, so… deal with it.

Ohai Phoebe!

I think Troma left a fine legacy despite the amount of hatred people may have towards Vizunah, i seems without him they haven’t got quite the same community or leadership.

I still wouldn’t underestimate them, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they finished in the Top 3. Also everybody get’s double teamed at some point, strong or weak.

Coarr.3286:

1) SFR – strongest wvw coverage EU atm

5) Desolation – the big unknown. i expect much from deso
6) Baruch Bay – weak prime time, strong night and morning crew

Seriously?
Look at the time, around 8.30am GMT+1. They take everything with a massive golem rush or whatever, and it stays like this for hours and hours. That and only that is giving Desolation the edge on this matchup.

On prime time, Baruch Bay always scores higher (from around 9 to 11pm).

Due to that the score is now meaningless, we already know the outcome, what a pity.

Vizunah
is subject to a huge 1v2 operation organized by its current enemies (SFR, Riverside). Not a simple 1v2 that’s an obvious strategy in a given map at a given time and doesn’t imply any communication, but an all-maps organized 1v2 (yesterday evening was obvious)

This made me laugh, It’s called Karma.

karma? since when is there karma involved into wvw xD

Viz is hurt by achievment hunters it seems……
Their blobs are losing to smaller groups…

On SFR the short queues still makes guild raids possible.
At that point its easy to see why viz blob are way less effective.

Also they ends often up in 1vs1vs1 situations….that is not doubleteaming since all 3 zergs are fighting against anything red.

Khenzy.9348:

Coarr.3286:

1) SFR – strongest wvw coverage EU atm

5) Desolation – the big unknown. i expect much from deso
6) Baruch Bay – weak prime time, strong night and morning crew

Seriously?
Look at the time, around 8.30am GMT+1. They take everything with a massive golem rush or whatever, and it stays like this for hours and hours. That and only that is giving Desolation the edge on this matchup.

On prime time, Baruch Bay always scores higher (from around 9 to 11pm).

Due to that the score is now meaningless, we already know the outcome, what a pity.

Really? My playing slot is between 9pm and 12 midnight. And we are almost always on par if not slightly ahead on the points tick despite usually going up again much larger Zergs from BB especially. To be frank i think you are talking nonsense.

Aand LOL at massive Golem Rush. I must have missed these as whenever ive logged on ive never seen one of these.

Khenzy.9348:

Coarr.3286:

1) SFR – strongest wvw coverage EU atm

5) Desolation – the big unknown. i expect much from deso
6) Baruch Bay – weak prime time, strong night and morning crew

Seriously?
Look at the time, around 8.30am GMT+1. They take everything with a massive golem rush or whatever, and it stays like this for hours and hours. That and only that is giving Desolation the edge on this matchup.

On prime time, Baruch Bay always scores higher (from around 9 to 11pm).

Due to that the score is now meaningless, we already know the outcome, what a pity.

Well not that I’ve seen it…… but if you’re beating Deso for a full 2hrs out of every 24 what a traversty that you’re behind!!!

If you think you always score higher between 9pm and 11pm, check the chart.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/4/

LordByron.8369:

On SFR the short queues still makes guild raids possible.

I geuss you are massively trolling or something? =p
It’s impossible to get guilds in most of the time if you aren’t in time.
You best queue 2-3 hours before you even try it.
If anything we have 15-25 people running ruins for achievements.
That Vizunah loses has nothing to do with our numbers.

The transfers made it unplayable, period.

The achievement hunters would’ve been here regardless.
I hope arena-net learns from this season and removes these achievements.