Guild Wars 2

Pffft.

Europe has German beer, French wine, Belgian chocolate and more!

Wolbryne.4037:

Come here in-staid. We on desolation would LOVE to have you here to night cap the french and german super servers, it makes them cry

Didn’t you have those NA players one time and it kinda failed?

salluks.6017:

Ranc.7192:

Lets have NA vs EU..

Top 3 t1 servers vs Top 3 EU servers!

I would put my money on NA

NA would win, na plays for points and win.. Eu plays for fights and fun.
NA will win but eu would wipe NA zergs 10 times over. Different styles of play really.
Choice is simple actually.
If u want to win at any cost, go to NA, if u want agressive fights then go to Eu.

You’d be surprised. Some NA guilds are VERY tactical in open field fighting against other zergs. NA WvW is about tactically taking points before tick and upgrading/defending your largest point holders. That being said my guild has been able to wipe out enemy zergs that double/triple our numbers.

Fact is NA guilds aren’t good enough. Even PRX is getting stomped by the french (almost every night the map is green now). You can argue all you want but you know it’s true.

EU Players come to NA – We have candy!

Watch out people. Your parents always warned you for people like this

;)

maloki.3527:

uhohhotdog.3598:

NA servers have bigger guns

It is not the size of the gun that matters. But what you do with it.

Only people with small guns would say that.

As someone who has extensive experience in NA T1 and now some time in EU T1, I’ll weigh in.

Let me begin with NA T1. Even the best server, SoS, has population issues. There is almost never a queue during NA and even some maps during NA prime have the outmanned buff. SoS has a strong Oceanic presence but then virtually no Asian and no European presence. SoS is the best in the world with basically just coverage in two time zones. SB and JQ, being the 2nd and 3rd best NA servers, are worse with regards to coverage. SoS is very organized and has good inter-guild and inter-map communication.

EU T1 is a small bit more vibrant; ie there are more people out WvWing during EU prime than during NA T1’s prime. During European prime, SFR typically has 15-30 minute queues on all maps. However, SFR, the 2nd best European server(and beat VZ last week) and with a stronger European fighting force than VZ, is 2nd best with basically only one strong time zone, the European time zone. During NA, we are literally the only guild out there with a few militia. Even with us holding down one map, the other three are outmanned and in the enemy’s color. SFR doesn’t have any Oceanics nor Asians but we do have some strong Russians.

VZ is a very consistent T1 performer with excellent coverage almost all hours of the day. Now, there is some disagreement with how they get that coverage. According to VZ, it’s the same 60 people, all from France, that play 20 hours a day and cover all 4 maps with their skills. Opinions vary on this but even if this is true, 60 people covering four maps is still low WvW population.

With regards to the question of NA trying to win and EU just going for fights, I don’t really see a huge difference. Redguard is a prime example of a guild that goes out specifically looking to just slaughter folks (and they do it well) but you also have many folks on SB and JQ that say they are only fighting for fun and not to win or lose. However I do feel that EU folks don’t give up as easily as NA folks when losing.

Ultimately T1 in NA and T1 in EU is similar in that all servers have population issues that causes one server or another to paint the entire map their color at certain times of the day. Elona, which will be in T1 next week, I believe primarily just has a strong German time zone, and they are the 3rd best server in EU.

When we moved to EU, there were many, both in our guild and outside, that thought we would just be nightcapping and getting bored. Let me dispel that myth; VZ is wracking up 400-500 during NA prime (around 10pm EST) while we are under heavy fire on our map. Holding two castles, a few camps and a few towers on one map is only worth ~75 points.

With regards to lag and latency, we do have some members experience unplayable connections and even some common fixes haven’t helped but most of us can play without noticeable problems.

If I could wave a magic wand Id put all the WvWers on the same 4-5 international servers to help with the WvW population issues.

To conclude, if your guild is bored with WvW and needs a spark, I would suggest two options, in this order:
1) Move to a T1 EU server (SFR or Elona) and face the beastly French of Vizunah, the most consistent T1 server in GW2. If you don’t enjoy it, move back to NA.
2) Move to T1 NA server (JQ or SB) and face the proud SoS’ers. I will tell you that if you’re from EU and move to any T1 NA server, you will have a huge impact as none of them have any EU to speak of.

All WvWers can feel that the WvW in GW2 is waning and needs a spark. The best servers in the world are only fielding full maps a fraction of the 24/7 cycle. If you haven’t tried EU, give it a try.

maloki.3527:

uhohhotdog.3598:

NA servers have bigger guns

It is not the size of the gun that matters. But what you do with it.

Thats why they need help :P

Euro player in NSP since pré release:]

Boomstin.3460:

maloki.3527:

uhohhotdog.3598:

NA servers have bigger guns

It is not the size of the gun that matters. But what you do with it.

Only people with small guns would say that.

I’ve experienced some really good small guns, and some average big guns. I know what I’m talking about.

I personally don’t own a gun.

PRXKV.1296:

Too long post

Man even if you congratz us , stop this.

We are bored of fight vs NA guilds , cause during the day , we fight versus kittening closed doors ! There is no fun on it .

You can’t continu to break our ladder just cause you think we are unbreakable … There is two ladders for a reason : timezone.

Dayra.7405:

holska.4127:

salluks.6017:

maloki.3527:

The EU has cookies and boobs AND beer!!

Cant compete with that mates

Cookies and beer don’t mix very well so there’s still some room for improvement. Boobs go with everything though.

I fear neither beer nor food quality in NA work very well to get EU-player to NA.

lol, apparently you’ve never eaten british food … kipper oil on .. EVERYTHING!

I’m just teasing!

Vizunah has the same story, we have no night capping force look there are only 20 of us.

But those 20 are so good they can nightcap four different maps, it is because they have scouts.

No one believes this not even the people on Vizunah, but you guys are good at saying it.

I think Anet should have a one off battle 1v1 VS v SoS, block all transfers so theres no outside help. Think it could work?

Binafus.8153:

Vizunah has the same story, we have no night capping force look there are only 20 of us.

But those 20 are so good they can nightcap four different maps, it is because they have scouts.

No one believes this not even the people on Vizunah, but you guys are good at saying it.

Well we have no dedicated guild to do it, nothing like Ruin/Xaoc/Prx.

We have also seen a lot of servers coming to T1 with better coverage than us, the only thing is they don’t manage to keep it.
Elona and Arborstone for one week
Desolation for two and half weeks
Blacktide for one month
SFR for hum almost three days.

So yeah we have relatively low numbers at night, something between your 20 and the 60 from prxkv.

about the competition who ist better : NA or EU? All your guilds who transferred to europe are winning against Doors/sleeping enemies or losing against the good guilds in EU. PRX and RUIN s*cked hard. The time will come PRX will leave like RUIN or transfer to the better server. Elona got a nightcapping team to kick the kitten out of PRXD sry I jsut wanted to heat up the discussion. don’t take it too serious :P

im just curious.. how is the latency if I play on NA as a german guy? and which server contains a specific country?sry for my english. are there servers which is dominated by germans/russians/asians.. ^^ thanks in advance

Why go across the water to grab a bucket of it?

If your server needs to reqruit a night capping crew then I actually feel sorry for you. It should be about having fun rather then racking up the most points.

Just my 2 cents.

English servers get unfair advantage from NA nightshifts. Germans and French have to fight for themselves while the EU (read english) servers can easily cover all time-zones :/

NA should be banned from EU Servers!

Beefcake.9032:

English servers get unfair advantage from NA nightshifts. Germans and French have to fight for themselves while the EU (read english) servers can easily cover all time-zones :/

NA should be banned from EU Servers!

Yeah but we french couldn’t be helped anymore by our canadians friends as your argentinians friends wouldn’t be able to help you to anymore, the one that needs help are eu servers especially since we are going on french server to have reinforcement from south america!

Aequitas.6402:

Pffft.

Europe has German beer, French wine, Belgian chocolate and more!

and Polish women

I remember in GW1 HA.. NA vs EU who won most? It got so bad that US players would come to EU cause EU was too strong.. But ye guys NA is so much stronger. Time to wake up. Either way the entire nightcapping is pretty boring and I’m sure VZ is doing this just to kick PRX there butt. I guess Elona will do the same next week.. QQ.

Like I said no NA guild would even dare to come here and get owned and you all know it.

Come over to the dark side, We have milk and cookies

salluks.6017:

maloki.3527:

The EU has cookies and boobs AND beer!!

Cant compete with that mates

German beers !!!

Binafus.8153:

Next weeks EU 1 match up

French
English
German

What could be better than killing French and Germans all next week.

Killing English and French, I would assume^^
Aside that, I am looking forward to be steamrolled by two servers that allready earned my respect in pasttime matchups.
Btt: As said before, and I can tell that from personal experience as well: EU is much more competetive and thrilling, I do not see any serious WvW-player thinking about a switch across the ocean (can only speak for my server, but have the strong feeling, that this is true for other EU servers as well).

pierwola.9602:

Aequitas.6402:

Pffft.

Europe has German beer, French wine, Belgian chocolate and more!

and Polish women

meh Ukrainian women are better =D

Don’t forget Russian vodka as well

zarak.2314:

I remember in GW1 HA.. NA vs EU who won most? It got so bad that US players would come to EU cause EU was too strong.. But ye guys NA is so much stronger. Time to wake up. Either way the entire nightcapping is pretty boring and I’m sure VZ is doing this just to kick PRX there butt. I guess Elona will do the same next week.. QQ.

Like I said no NA guild would even dare to come here and get owned and you all know it.

You are trying too hard kid. Everyone knows EU and NA suck compared to Asians. So your argument is moot.

English vs French vs Germans.

24 hours till tee time.

So who could win in a fight, the Hulk, or Superman.

Thats about all this thread has been reduced to. Even if EU were to transfer to NA, or NA were to transfer to EU, WE WOULDNT BE FIGHTING EACH OTHER!!!!!!! This is a topic for science fiction!

Come to NA, and youll be fighting the reduced presence we have that covers our overnight cappage, and if we came over there, we would be fighting your overnight presence. You said it yourself, if we come over there, we are fighting not EU, but EUs transfers and the canadians that moved there.

Be honest, you are fishing for coverage. If you can build a night presence, youll be #1. If you were to go to an NA server, you would probably boost them in a similar fashion.

Well anet should have forseen such issue before deciding the split between EU and NA rather than having global servers, hope they at least fix it in the Feb patch.

Moving to EU was milking more fun out of the game for me.

It was a chance to see different fighting styles.

It was a chance to play with people that do not look at the world the same way Americans do.

If I wanted to be number one I would be on SoS fighting SBI and JQ AGAIN.

If you move to SFR today chances are you will lose next week, the French are very strong, I do understand some people want no part of that type of fight.

If SFR won every week I would not stick around that is becomes boring very fast, been there and done that.

EU Tier 1 is more active than NA it is just a fact, that in its self does not mean it is better, but the tired argument of PVDoor is for people that have no clue and the French they always say they are out numbered but win during NA prime.

Do I get a free Legendary if I moved?

sevtrisen.5247:

Do I get a free Legendary if I moved?

Join sfr and you can buy it after week. Elonas zerg give so much loot that i don’t even know where to spend all this gold. They just all stand in same place and die.

PRXKV.1296:

VZ is a very consistent T1 performer with excellent coverage almost all hours of the day. Now, there is some disagreement with how they get that coverage. According to VZ, it’s the same 60 people, all from France, that play 20 hours a day and cover all 4 maps with their skills. Opinions vary on this but even if this is true, 60 people covering four maps is still low WvW population.

And yet, it’s quite true.
I invite you to come on Vizunah a week to see this with your own eyes, hoping that stop the legend of “our 300 Canadians on each map… © PRX guildmaster.”

salluks.6017:

Ranc.7192:

Lets have NA vs EU..

Top 3 t1 servers vs Top 3 EU servers!

I would put my money on NA

NA would win, na plays for points and win.. Eu plays for fights and fun.
NA will win but eu would wipe NA zergs 10 times over. Different styles of play really.
Choice is simple actually.
If u want to win at any cost, go to NA, if u want agressive fights then go to Eu.

lol