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Posted by: sephiroth.4217

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Q:

hey does anyone know if I transferred from NA to EU if I would experience more or less lag?

I’m from Australia and I’m not keen on spending the transfer gold to find out EU servers are unplayable due to lag.

Reason for transferring if it’s possible: I play EU prime time hours and having to 3 man an entire BL back cause WvW is that empty at those times is just getting boring to say the least.

I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
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Posted by: Cameron.2315

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A:

The lag issues on a European server in this game will be exactly the same as what you experience now on a American on because even the Euro servers are based in America so it’s all the same

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Posted by: Psykoyul.9147

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In your case I don’t know for sure but I can tell you that the other way around works well: I’m in EU, playing on NA servers and don’t experiencing any particular lag.
You could also consider transfering to a higher tier NA server, those are far from empty during EU times

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

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@psykoyul

Latence is masked….if you don t know what to watch you can t recognize it.

If you play from eu to NA its granted you are experiencing significant latence.
Aside the fact this game is pretty laggy even from eu to eu…..and was designed to be “lag friendly” (i don t agree since reaction Windows are often quite small but its what anet said ….).

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

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They say only login servers are in US.

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: sephiroth.4217

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Cheers cam pretty much the answer I needed

I mostly play for the new Free-For-All arena in PvP lobby.
….. And Elementalist.

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

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I am euro player playing in USA server and its rare to notice lag, FPS drop due WvW blob is another thing ^^.

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Posted by: Bloodwort MacFangho.4638

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The lag issues on a European server in this game will be exactly the same as what you experience now on a American on because even the Euro servers are based in America so it’s all the same

I thought EU servers are hosted in Germany?
@OP .. I’ve got a New Zealander guildie I can ask tonight. That’s if you haven’t already got an answer by then.

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Posted by: Ikaros.7812

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EU servers are physically located in Frankfurt, Germany.

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

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if you have IPs

Test the ping and see wich is shorter.
Its wont tell you the latence amount but will be useful to see wich is better.

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: Cameron.2315

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EU servers are physically located in Frankfurt, Germany.

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Well this just made matters interesting. A guildie with access to the dev client has always informed us its all the same. I live in Sydney and currently reside on sanctum of rall but have played on a Euro server twice and didnt notice any thing you wouldnt be already used to. Every player should take a vacation to the NA/EU servers at least once in the time they play this game and i should challenge you with my guardian called sephiroth also haha

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Posted by: Lady Lozza.9670

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I’ve played on the EU server once during beta and the lag in WvW was far above what I was getting on the US servers. I understand from old friends who still play there it’s better than it was but since they are NA players playing on the EU servers I don’t know how much better it would be connecting from Australia.

The server network as far as I understand all channels through the NA server cluster, so to communicate with the EU servers your data would go Sydney→NA cluster→EU servers, and then back the other way.

Keep in mind a Sydney→LA connection is faster than the pipe that goes up through Asia Minor to the EU and historically less prone to problems.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

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I have friends who play oceanic and have said the lag is actually less for them on EU.

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Posted by: Saint Scarlet.2906

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We have people from all timezones playing in the EU an they suffer no extra latency from playing EU rather than NA. In fact quite a lot from Aus/NZ/US/Asia say the game is much better because there is less server lag for them as there is not the same amount of stacking in the EU as there is in NA.

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Posted by: Gwendolyr.3712

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On the other hand, I have friends that are in Australia and have gone to EU and said the lag made it impossible to play.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

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Depends on the week. As others have mentioned, it’s exactly the same really. I’m NA playing on EU and played NA for the first nine months after launch. While there have been some weeks that have been “buggy” .. those weeks were reported on the forums as problematic by both NA and EU players. And after they did some magic lag patch a couple weeks ago, we can even have massive three-way battles and not a bit of lag, it’s quite remarkable. Terribly happy about that

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

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@jayne

Hardware (Server AND/OR client side) lag and geographic latence are totally diffeent issues…..

p.S. and yes btw they improved server performacnce quite a lot.

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

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All I can tell you, having played both sides of the pond extensively, is it’s exactly the same for my experience.

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Posted by: Reverence.6915

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You should transfer up a few tiers rather than move to an EU server.

JQ, SoS, SoR, TC and BG all have sizable oceanic communities.

SoR, JQ and BG also has large EU communities.

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Posted by: Sandman.4192

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About the EU and NA server lag difference there are posted made by people here on the forum about these issue,
they are saying that they got more lag on a EU server, then when they where on a NA server.
Check link of a former post. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Server-skill-lag-EU-worse-then-NA/first#post3099348

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

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maybe because you are not discerning masked GEOGRAPHIC lag.

Example…
A warrior hammer stuns you DURING an evade….how is it possible? geographic lag
You get hit by an aoe but way before you would expect….. again geographic lag.

The best would be the infamous sniper rifle or shotgun test you can easily do in FPS games…..(COD, HALO etc etc….) but in gw2 you can’t headshot etc…

The game try to render what you are doing in real time and also “guess” what people on screen will do.

You apply a condition to a target but it appears only some istants later….

The only way to understand there is lag is when the program corrects wrong guesses or apply istant variations.

Consider that the SEA is not cabled.
Thus from eu to US and vice-versa you have to cross oceanic network “backbones” that usually add 50-100 millisecond lag (100-200 on a ping) themselves that then may be multiplied for a number depending on how netcode works.

Eu to EU latence is usually under 50 (100 on a ping).

hard to explain for me since english is not my mother Language.

P.S: australia has sea on both sides ._. so its even harder to calculate…they should try a speedtest on germany and on the state of US where server are located…that maybe would help a little.
Since most of their issues comes from geographic latence.

P.P.S. lag you get with zergs is HARDWARE/BANDWIDTH lag nothing to do with australia.

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: hmsgoddess.3869

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I am an American who just started playing on a EU server . I have no issues with lag/ latency issues, in terms of one being better than the other. The only thing I found is that in general the EU servers have far more WvW population over the NA servers, which means you have bigger zergs which of course means huge fights that sometimes means lag. But even then I haven’t had much of a problem with this because my play hours are in a none EU prime time.
Also according to IP addresses EU servers are in Texas, the last time I checked.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

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I am an American who just started playing on a EU server . I have no issues with lag/ latency issues, in terms of one being better than the other. The only thing I found is that in general the EU servers have far more WvW population over the NA servers, which means you have bigger zergs which of course means huge fights that sometimes means lag. But even then I haven’t had much of a problem with this because my play hours are in a none EU prime time.
Also according to IP addresses EU servers are in Texas, the last time I checked.

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/arenanet-tracker/topic/258575-have-the-eu-servers-bewen-moved-to-usa/

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Posted by: hmsgoddess.3869

hmsgoddess.3869

I am an American who just started playing on a EU server . I have no issues with lag/ latency issues, in terms of one being better than the other. The only thing I found is that in general the EU servers have far more WvW population over the NA servers, which means you have bigger zergs which of course means huge fights that sometimes means lag. But even then I haven’t had much of a problem with this because my play hours are in a none EU prime time.
Also according to IP addresses EU servers are in Texas, the last time I checked.

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/arenanet-tracker/topic/258575-have-the-eu-servers-bewen-moved-to-usa/

Thanks! for the link, however, I still stand by the issues of lag/latency…I haven’t noticed any problems at all.

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