Guild Wars 2

Since it’s now recognised that EotM isn’t really WvW, can we please stop the supply from winning EotM matchups from being delivered to the (usually green) citadel, please? This simply exacerbates the problem of powerful teams dominating in a snowball effect (as do waypoints, but that’s another thread).

maybe give all 3 servers equal supply, winning in eotm doesn’t really mean anything anyways. Nobody there is ppt competitive.

pepper.6179:

maybe give all 3 servers equal supply, winning in eotm doesn’t really mean anything anyways. Nobody there is ppt competitive.

It doesn’t mean anything? I means you get supply in WvW.

I mean, unless you’ve got large ques on multiple maps, which is extremely rare, you can always just hop into EotM to grab the free supply there anyway, if your group is really getting “supply starved”. Having it at the Citadel with no chance to upgrade isn’t a really big advantage, since it doesn’t help with upgrades, and it requires you to always port back to spawn (far away from enemy keeps and towers) to get it, and it’s only available on one map. It’ really not some sort of game-changing mechanic.

coglin.1867:

pepper.6179:

maybe give all 3 servers equal supply, winning in eotm doesn’t really mean anything anyways. Nobody there is ppt competitive.

It doesn’t mean anything? I means you get supply in WvW.

like i said, is there actually people being competitive ppt wise there? Hell, not much people care about that supply anyways, I just climb on top to sleep on it.

Otokomae.9356:

I mean, unless you’ve got large ques on multiple maps, which is extremely rare, you can always just hop into EotM to grab the free supply there anyway, if your group is really getting “supply starved”. Having it at the Citadel with no chance to upgrade isn’t a really big advantage, since it doesn’t help with upgrades, and it requires you to always port back to spawn (far away from enemy keeps and towers) to get it, and it’s only available on one map. It’ really not some sort of game-changing mechanic.

On the contrary, the amount it gives along with the fact that it is right next to the wp means that it can be easily used for spike repairs or quick attacks.

Say for instance, Garrison is being hit hard. You can port grab supply and port back when it becomes uncontested to repair/build siege, or send a raiding party to supply up and try and recap some of the points they are using to attack from, and there is nothing that the opposition can do to stop it.

pepper.6179:

coglin.1867:

pepper.6179:

maybe give all 3 servers equal supply, winning in eotm doesn’t really mean anything anyways. Nobody there is ppt competitive.

It doesn’t mean anything? I means you get supply in WvW.

like i said, is there actually people being competitive ppt wise there? Hell, not much people care about that supply anyways, I just climb on top to sleep on it.

Good to see your a team player and helping out your server.

What is PPT ? Is that the stuff that makes glicko go weird and put us together with servers way out of or under our league ? I think the game mode would be more fun without. :p

joneirikb.7506:

What is PPT ? Is that the stuff that makes glicko go weird and put us together with servers way out of or under our league ? I think the game mode would be more fun without. :p

That occurs specifically because many threads were made about stale matchups. In those threads, in those threads posters flooded demands to lose restrictions on match ups. They gave what was asked for. Blame those foolish posters for those demands.

Is that supply dump more significant than grabbing supply from the eotm map? Or is that not a thing?

Ultimaistanza.4793:

Say for instance, Garrison is being hit hard. You can port grab supply and port back when it becomes uncontested to repair/build siege… and there is nothing that the opposition can do to stop it.

They could kill you… that’s what my server does in this exact situation on a regular basis. Especially if you do something as ridiculous as “porting in” to a Garrison full of enemies; this leaves your entire force standing on a single spot, and depending on load-in times, you may be already dead before you even know what’s happening!

I don’t know what are you talking about. Supply reward is my main motivation when i defend enemys blue keep 3.5 hours in EotM.

Otokomae.9356:

Ultimaistanza.4793:

Say for instance, Garrison is being hit hard. You can port grab supply and port back when it becomes uncontested to repair/build siege… and there is nothing that the opposition can do to stop it.

They could kill you… that’s what my server does in this exact situation on a regular basis. Especially if you do something as ridiculous as “porting in” to a Garrison full of enemies; this leaves your entire force standing on a single spot, and depending on load-in times, you may be already dead before you even know what’s happening!

Yeah, if we’re talking about a lag situation where the timer isn’t functioning correctly and they’re already through inner. If they’re not then there is nothing stopping it. It’s not like a camp where the defenders would have to port a lot sooner to cover the time between the wp to the camp or that the attackers could send a person/havoc to flip and drain said camps.

coglin.1867:

pepper.6179:

coglin.1867:

pepper.6179:

maybe give all 3 servers equal supply, winning in eotm doesn’t really mean anything anyways. Nobody there is ppt competitive.

It doesn’t mean anything? I means you get supply in WvW.

like i said, is there actually people being competitive ppt wise there? Hell, not much people care about that supply anyways, I just climb on top to sleep on it.

Good to see your a team player and helping out your server.

yeah i am helping out in the bl and eb maps. Not in eotm, where 8 servers is your team.

Junkpile.7439:

I don’t know what are you talking about. Supply reward is my main motivation when i defend enemys blue keep 3.5 hours in EotM.

this guy gets it. It should be everyone’s motivation to go to etom to receive some wonderful supply.

coglin.1867:

pepper.6179:

maybe give all 3 servers equal supply, winning in eotm doesn’t really mean anything anyways. Nobody there is ppt competitive.

It doesn’t mean anything? I means you get supply in WvW.

Does anyone who k-trains in eotm do it to help their side get supply in wvw? Absolutely not. Therefore, why should there be a wvw advantage to the “winner.” I’d just drop the supply bonus completely.

Osu.6307:

coglin.1867:

pepper.6179:

maybe give all 3 servers equal supply, winning in eotm doesn’t really mean anything anyways. Nobody there is ppt competitive.

It doesn’t mean anything? I means you get supply in WvW.

Does anyone who k-trains in eotm do it to help their side get supply in wvw? Absolutely not. Therefore, why should there be a wvw advantage to the “winner.” I’d just drop the supply bonus completely.

Because when the forums were flooded with demands for a casual WvW off shoot, in which to occupy players who were leveling or waiting for regular WvW queues, one of the main things they demanded, was that it had some effect on actual WvW.

The posters got precisely what they demanded at the time.

100 supplies in a camp takes 5minutes to fully “respawn”. 400supplies from eotm takes 3 hours – IF they “win” it is. Dont see this as a problem tbh. 4 supply traps or a clever treb poison will completely wash away those supplies from people.