Guild Wars 2

WHAT: WvW free for all fun night for science! (& death, lots of messy falling from great heights death )

WHERE: Green desert borderland map no matter your world, region or tier

WHEN: Friday November 13th, previous regular reset time (on NA 6pm PST, 9pm EST)

WHY: Too queue a desert borderland map on all three sides and test how it plays in that capacity regardless of tier or rank using the green map on a Friday before Saturdays reset to get maximum players with minimum impact to over all score, leave your PPT at the door.

What say you WvW forum goers? Want to give this a try? I am no one here or anywhere really to get something like this going but I’ve found if you start the ball rolling and it is a workable suggestion good things can happen, like GvG’s in OS, duels at Windmill & back in the old days when DAoCer’s would declare a zone for a mythical 8v8 nite. Sure sometimes some griefer decides to hide in the Ice Giants shoe and pull a three-way agro wipe, but still plenty of good fun to be had all around.

I could use a lot of help on this if it is agreed to be a decent thing worth trying so if you could drop a link to this thread on your favorite guild, world, reddit, anime, ex-girlfriends mom or darkness forbid, ign forums that would be lovely. Maybe we can even pick up a few red tag posts to help us along. Gaile loves a good player driven event, even if it is just a WvW one. I want to give this crazy layered yet oh so beautiful environment a fair shot and so far it has been very hit or miss out there for me. Judging from these forums, I am not the only one who feels this way so lets try to do something about it. It’s turning into a self enforcing negative feedback loop which is not good for anyone.

If this thread quickly falls off the front page we will know it was a bad idea and let it die a merciful death.

Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to jump into WvW on the Green Desert Borderland map on Friday November 13th whenever you can play and if your map is queued, share a screenshot of it for the community to show we are actually making it work and then join the queue while running around doing whatever else you enjoy. That way we can try to keep as many of the maps across the tiers full on all sides for as long as possible so the maximum number of players get a taste of how this map feels at full population. You might find you don’t like it much and that is ok, there are still tons of things about the Desert borderland I am not sold on but I know I can’t make a fair judgement on some of those things without experiencing what it feels like to play on when full. How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat?

I expect the top tiers may have already started to see this on the borderlands this past reset but some of us lower down likely never will and it makes no sense for us offer opinions and ideas on how to improve something we have such little understanding of at this point in the cycle. Of course there needs to be ways for this map to be enjoyable across the tiers but I still think I would be better suited to comment on that with more information in hand. I would very much love many bodies out there willing to help educate me. Think of it as WvW beta test 3.0 now with more creme filling.

So if you are a GvGer, jump into the Green Borderland on Friday and try to make the Fire Keep your kitten while enjoying open sand battles and vast hallway ambushes with the occasional fire puppy madness, if defense and epic siege battles are more your thing, hang around in the northern 1/2 of the map to defend or take the Rampart keep or north towers, if ganking havoc is more your style the Oasis and southern side of the map should be prime hunting grounds, and for those jumping puzzle obsessed who like pushing others from great heights the Air keep will be your domain. There is something for everyone and every play style, the only question remains if we can find ways to make it fun for everyone and what exactly that means. Lets find out FOR SCIENCE!

Some perks of trying on Friday might include showing off for ANET how big of queues we can get going on the original reset for those who are still bitter over the change to weekend resets. Hopefully with a lot more people done with their shiny HoT PvE masteries and such there are some needing a break to let off some steam so there are lots willing participants. Those that might now be leery of visiting the new WvW map without tags around or given what they’ve read around these boards about empty abandon spaces will turn out for the opportunity to see how this new map plays when full with big three-way battles. And of course it is FRIDAY THE THIRTEENTH where anything could happen! Jason could show up as Dhuum and kill us all wielding a green scythe and a hockey mask. o.O

Would be nice to see Friday nights turn in to large fights or GvG since the match is already over at that point. It would give the players looking for WvW fights a ‘set’ time to get on and find them.

It would be good for people to experience a full map because empty maps are exacerbating the problem of the maps being empty.

With no one on the map, no one is contesting the supply lines, so everything fortifies extremely fast. With no one on the map, taking stuff back is a very slow, hard slog through fortified structures (with no extra reward for the extra effort.) With no one on the map, you may not realize that all of the gates are wide open and have been for hours…

I really like the idea of players organizing fun in the game, regardless of what form it takes. Maybe having a large group romp around the map will help people get a better feel instead of roaming and getting lost solo. And if nothing else, it’s an organized time for a bunch of people to know a bunch of other people are going to be romping around too.

I hope it turns into something!

If you find the new borderland a tad bit intimating (beautiful but a little scary) I suggest checking out Catalin and Chaba’s guides to siege and getting around. They are very helpful.

For me tho, I navigate by landmarks and am completely dyslexic so I have run the routes myself and pick-up tricks from others. I just need more people to follow around & learn from with some enemies to kill mixed in to keep the excitement up, hence the hoping I can bribe you all into playing there on Friday nite . . .

If three sides Q that map, the lag will be staggering. I have seen two sides nearly Q a BL and it was a disaster-lag.

The new borderland map has a lag issue outside of the Oasis Laser tag event? Worse than an SM 3way? I wouldn’t know, we don’t queue borderland maps down in T5.

Anyways doesn’t seem like an event many people can get behind so I’ll just have to hope for map lessons the old fashion often dying way.

Straegen.2938:

If three sides Q that map, the lag will be staggering. I have seen two sides nearly Q a BL and it was a disaster-lag.

Sounds like a good opportunity for Anet to collect data from and tune it.

So… what happened?

Lord Kuru.3685:

So… what happened?

Blue BL was completely Red while Green stayed Green. XD

there was some discussion about poor taste in timing considering yesterdays other events, not to mention was apparently not really a very popular idea right now so stopped trying to promote it.