Guild Wars 2

I am from Dragonbrand here is my two cents> the reward system is too much of an instant gratification. How about anet rewards people for being loyal to your server. For example people who stay with their server for more than one tournament get kitten to special Armour or in game fame among non pc. also give extra bonus or rewards to people servers who are out numbered.

basepi.9768:

My issue is that the last week before the tourney, Dragonbrand made gold.

We barely belonged there. But that’s fine, someone has to be at the bottom. But as a reward for getting gold tier, we got ZERO shiny weapons, instead of the two we probably would have gotten in silver tier. And they teased us with 275 tickets, just 25 shy of our weapon.

That’s a problem.

Lol db
you got exactly what you deserved and asked for. You were forewarned not to take advantage of falling sor rank, the 400k point you earned each week at our matchup proved that you did not care.
Don’t start getting salty now that you realized that you would of gotten better rewards for to do worse. Oh btw how did you you guys do in the tourney, curious if it came out remotely even close to my prediction that you’d get slaughtered in gold

no

i did my meta in eotm

didnt even touch wvw except for jumping puzzles

90% of playerbase is like that

how can get shiny

Yeah they need to not allow meta to be done in ETOM. Its a WvW tournament not an ETOM tournament.

VOLTCIEAGE.3029:

Sry its tournament and there must be winners and awards .

Considering how large the player base is for each “team”, it’s hard for me to take any winner or loser seriously. WvW is a fun place to fart around on…but it’s not a serious competitive environment to me, even if there are some people who try to treat it like one.

There are just too many people on the map that are there just to knock out an achievement list, farm some materials, do a jumping puzzle, fight meaningless 1 v 1s in the middle of nowhere, etc. for this to be considered any real measure of competitive prowess.

jokke.6239:

VOLTCIEAGE.3029:

Sry its tournament and there must be winners and awards .

Fact is that low populated servers worked much harder for their meta than we did, but are rewarded less ..

Fact is that a lot of people in real life work a hell of a lot harder in one day than most high paid T. V. Stars or “Pro Athletes” in their entire life and don’t even get close to being paid 0.00001% of their salary.

Life sucks, live with it. Want a shiny? Man up and win.

Anet needs to stop rewarding failure and start rewarding victory. Turn this care bear train around.

Vanthian.9267:

Fact is that a lot of people in real life work a hell of a lot harder in one day than most high paid T. V. Stars or “Pro Athletes” in their entire life and don’t even get close to being paid 0.00001% of their salary.

But why should you spend your free time a game that sucks the same way?

Dayra.7405:

But why should you spend your free time a game that sucks the same way?

To each his own. If you want to play, then play. Just don’t expect to be rewarded for logging in.

I understand that the American school systems have been teaching, “You deserve everything in the world for just being born!” but sadly that is simply not true. You don’t deserve everything. You deserve the chance at everything, not for it to just be handed to you for nothing.

Huh must of missed that lecture, prolly in some soccer class, can’t be bothered with that nonsense.

Work for a shiny? Bwahaha what utter nonsense. Should change that to bandwagon for shiny. With one exception due to a a 2v1 every league in both na and eu was swept away. I can’t imagine why the hate on tournaments …..

Vanthian.9267:

Dayra.7405:

But why should you spend your free time a game that sucks the same way?

To each his own. If you want to play, then play. Just don’t expect to be rewarded for logging in.

I understand that the American school systems have been teaching, “You deserve everything in the world for just being born!” but sadly that is simply not true. You don’t deserve everything. You deserve the chance at everything, not for it to just be handed to you for nothing.

You don’t seem to understand that WvW is won by population and coverage. Not skill and effort.

The #1 ranking server (aside from NA gold) did not do anything to deserve better rewards. They just outmanned the opposition.

Providing better “rewards” to the most heavily populated server makes the problem even worse.

The lower servers don’t even get a reward, it is a huge slap in the face considering how much the population and coverage issue has been brought up. How long do you think they’ll stay on their server before they transfer to the top 3?

Stack stack stack stack and stack to win.

If every server had the roughly the same amount of players at any given time, then your childish insult would apply.

thaooo.5320:

You don’t seem to understand that WvW is won by population and coverage. Not skill and effort.

WvW is a competition. Competitions have winners which also means there are losers. Regardless of the skill required. Some servers lost which means less reward. Life is rough, get a helmet.

Stop crying, it is unbecoming. If you want a better reward, aka win, get more bodies or simply transfer. You have the options.

Johje Holan.4607:

Yeah they need to not allow meta to be done in ETOM. Its a WvW tournament not an ETOM tournament.

Except all throughout season 1, there were endless threads here about all the ‘pve scrubs’ mucking up the WvW experience. By letting them rack up 10/10s in EotM, they kept them out of your way.

WvW is a competition.

lol

Yeah they need to not allow meta to be done in ETOM. Its a WvW tournament not an ETOM tournament.

Who are you to define what kind of tournament it is though?

Anyhow, I really think they should just make the tickets sellable. I have no use for the 500 I have.

Vanthian.9267:

thaooo.5320:

You don’t seem to understand that WvW is won by population and coverage. Not skill and effort.

WvW is a competition. Competitions have winners which also means there are losers. Regardless of the skill required. Some servers lost which means less reward. Life is rough, get a helmet.

Stop crying, it is unbecoming. If you want a better reward, aka win, get more bodies or simply transfer. You have the options.

Facepalm.

Headdesk.

Hammerfingers.

How do you even…….

I’ll never understand.

Have fun.

NonToxic.9185:

Johje Holan.4607:

Yeah they need to not allow meta to be done in ETOM. Its a WvW tournament not an ETOM tournament.

Except all throughout season 1, there were endless threads here about all the ‘pve scrubs’ mucking up the WvW experience. By letting them rack up 10/10s in EotM, they kept them out of your way.

Not outta my way. I’m pretty sure 3/4 of those threads were from T1.

I think the meta should be designed to keep people in WvW throughout the entire season, not just until they finish the meta.

Master of Timespace.2548:

WvW is a competition.

lol

Yeah they need to not allow meta to be done in ETOM. Its a WvW tournament not an ETOM tournament.

Who are you to define what kind of tournament it is though?

I’m the Master of Spacetime and I get to determine all in the end.

Agree with the lol No. 1.

imo they should have just given 100 tickets with the meta just enough to guarantee a shiny weapon for people who did the meta on 9th ranked servers. Everyone who did the meta would benefit even the #1 server who would now get 2 weapons rather than 1.

All they’ve done is promote server stacking further.

Season 1 rewards were garbage, but at least it didn’t encourage people to stack in one server in each league (People did stack servers out of speculation, but ANet didn’t promote it or reward it).

This time around they completely dropped the ball.

I’m gonna call it right now, for future quoting:

"Season 3 will have 1-3 servers in each league stacked to the brim, and the other 3 (Gold) or 6 (Silver, Bronze) servers will be almost completely empty."

The only exception to this will be NA Gold, tier 2, because NA tier 2 is all about fight culture and GvG.

Vanthian.9267:

jokke.6239:

VOLTCIEAGE.3029:

Sry its tournament and there must be winners and awards .

Fact is that low populated servers worked much harder for their meta than we did, but are rewarded less ..

Fact is that a lot of people in real life work a hell of a lot harder in one day than most high paid T. V. Stars or “Pro Athletes” in their entire life and don’t even get close to being paid 0.00001% of their salary.

Life sucks, live with it. Want a shiny? Man up and win.

Anet needs to stop rewarding failure and start rewarding victory. Turn this care bear train around.

Fact is that this is not real life.
And I did get shiny, doesn’t mean I don’t care about the rest of the playerbase, just cause I got mine.

thaooo.5320:

Facepalm.

Headdesk.

Hammerfingers.

How do you even…….

I’ll never understand.

Have fun.

I know thinking is hard but one day you will understand. There will be losers as long as there are winners. Winners are usually given more than the losers. Traditionally at least 2 fold more (example American Football: Superbowl, look up the championship rings). Very simple concept.

Master of Timespace.2548:

WvW is a competition.
lol

Any form of PvP (no matter how hard the WvWers try to PvD there is still PvP in WvW) is a competition. Laughing at the obvious… alright…?

jokke.6239:

Fact is that this is not real life.
And I did get shiny, doesn’t mean I don’t care about the rest of the playerbase, just cause I got mine.

You are correct, this is not real life and congratulations on getting your shiny. The point is, rewarding failure teaches people that failing is just as rewarding as success. They will never try to do better if you just give them things for failing. This is how you get a community that doesn’t care to evolve and become skillful and give intriguing play. They will simply give up and whine when they lose until they are handed things. There are many parallels you can draw between that statement and real life/games (especially in guild wars 2). So in essence, I care about the community in general and their attitudes more so than their “shinnies”.

At the moment I would equate the attitude of the Guild Wars 2 community with a little league (as in ages 6-10) sports team. “But EVERYONE should get a trophy!!! They were here too!!! It isn’t their fault!!”. Thus, the parents pay 40$ to get their kid a (now) meaningless trophy. Congrats.

Bad decision to award more for being on a larger server. In truth the larger server players are worse at this game.

I didn’t understand why Anet is rewarding skilless play but then i remembered watching ToL….it all makes sense now

Anet Logic: Hey guys, lets reward people based on server population! That be fun, right… Nobody will hate us for that, right?

Not sure why people need to keep bringing up real life. This is in fact a game. You can take all the good stuff from real life and leave out the bad. Guild Wars 2 is not responsible for shaping society.

Agreed, everyone should get the weapon (skin), and placement should only affect what additional goodies you can get.

Also agree that it should be ASCENDED weapon with stats of your choice.

But its www so inferior rewards are understood by now i guess.

Voidd.3487:

Just ask Gunnar’s Hold players how to win. WE HAVE LESS players than AM OR FSP and we have 2nd place in silver league. no skill no reward – easy.

That was unexpected yes. But well done though, was surprising to find a loophole in this crap swiss system.

T raw.4658:

Bad decision to award more for being on a larger server. In truth the larger server players are worse at this game.

I didn’t understand why Anet is rewarding skilless play but then i remembered watching ToL….it all makes sense now

You are right to blame Anet but not everything on them. Look at the top quote. Gunnar’s Hold and Piken Square shared the 2nd place with FSP even though Piken never won and Gunnar’s just once against them. It only required some thinking to find a loophole and handholding with the top server.