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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

The NA T2 match this week is the same as the NA T3 match last week. Same server opponents all randomly rolled three places up together. What was the chance of that happening?

This is not a match-up thread, only a thread to illustrate why the randomized glicko match-making needs some attention.

Chaba Tangnu
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Posted by: Lahmia.2193

Lahmia.2193

At least T1 is finally balanced.

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Posted by: Natto.5819

Natto.5819

So you’re saying that all of T3 was promoted to T2? Surely this is a bug and Anet will focus on fixing it since no one wants to see WvW suffer.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

So you’re saying that all of T3 was promoted to T2? Surely this is a bug and Anet will focus on fixing it since no one wants to see WvW suffer.

There was no promotion. It is the same match. It was entirely possible though lowly probable. It is an example though of why match-making needs to be looked at.

The randomization added to the system was intended to prevent matches being the same and was done back when there were 8 NA tiers. Over time and before server linking, that evolved into stale matches due to glicko cliffs that had more to do with the system itself than with server populations (like arbitrary tournament “divisions”). Now with close ratings due to server links and partial glicko resets every two months, we have the same matches being rolled because the number of servers is small and the randomization is not rational. Glicko is intended for a much larger pool of participants.

At this point I’d suggest looking into a one-rank-up-one-rank-down system or at least reviewing the randomization part of the match-making.

Chaba Tangnu
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RIP [SIC] Strident Iconoclast

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Posted by: Lord of Rings.5371

Lord of Rings.5371

This is one up, one down and tier 2 and 3 swap.

Mag went up.

SoS went down.

FA stays except it is in tier 3 because tier 2 and 3 swapped.

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Posted by: RodOfDeath.5247

RodOfDeath.5247

You see Chaba when you have a glicko………nah you’re right, it sucks.

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Posted by: jamesdolla.3954

jamesdolla.3954

Should of voted for one up one down chaba, not rewards.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

This is one up, one down and tier 2 and 3 swap.

It is not one-up-one-down. The match is the same. Don’t confuse people.

Chaba Tangnu
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RIP [SIC] Strident Iconoclast

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Posted by: HazyDaisy.4107

HazyDaisy.4107

No quicker way to negate stacking than confuse the heck out of people. +1

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Posted by: Lord of Rings.5371

Lord of Rings.5371

This is one up, one down and tier 2 and 3 swap.

It is not one-up-one-down. The match is the same. Don’t confuse people.

Ok.

It is one up; Tier 2 and 3 swapped and one down.

For tier 2, last week ended with Mag lead and SoS last.

Mag replaces SI, one up.

Tier 2 and 3 swapped.

FA stays.

SoS replaces CD, one down.

http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/history/515

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Posted by: Lord of Rings.5371

Lord of Rings.5371

BTW, Maybe someone could let Millenium know

to keep track of historical victory points for weekly final scores.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

This is one up, one down and tier 2 and 3 swap.

It is not one-up-one-down. The match is the same. Don’t confuse people.

Ok.

It is one up; Tier 2 and 3 swapped and one down.

For tier 2, last week ended with Mag lead and SoS last.

Mag replaces SI, one up.

Tier 2 and 3 swapped.

FA stays.

SoS replaces CD, one down.

http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/history/515

That isn’t one up, one down. One-up-one-down would result in FA facing YB and SBI this week and DB facing SoS and NSP. You are getting off-topic now with your tangent and contributing nothing towards discussing match-making improvements.

I think you are also assuming I started this thread due to FA’s placement and so are coloring your responses towards that. I started this thread because this account is on ET, which is in the T2 match linked to DB. The fact that the match is the same is surprising and a perfect example of irrational match-making we will be seeing more of as time progresses.

Chaba Tangnu
Founding member of [NERF] Fort Engineer and driver for [TLC] The Legion of Charrs
RIP [SIC] Strident Iconoclast

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Posted by: Lord of Rings.5371

Lord of Rings.5371

I see.

Yes , these matchups are not random to me as well.

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