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Posted by: Bull.5491

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I am not sure if this is an exploit or if it’s intended. We ran into this yesterday when we put up some arrow carts and ballistae on top of a tower we had captured. An elementalist was damaging them from way, way out of range using a lightning ability (think it’s called Air Burst?) and we couldn’t damage him. So he was outside of siege weapon range and our player range, but he could still damage us and the siege weapons. Below are 2 videos of this happening. Is this some sort of exploit or is it intended behaviour of an elementalist ability? I do not play an elementalist so am not familiar with them.

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Posted by: Distaste.4801

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Might be an exploit, but I’d guess at a hack. Just spitballing, but it could be a hack that teleports the user to his targets location and then teleports him back. The running back and forth is the server coping with the teleport.

I’m pretty sure I dealt with something similar tonight. We had a thief that would cloak and dagger our siege equipment, then vanish into thin air. Yes, I know it stealths the thief(I have a thief) but with 10+ people AOEing all around with zero hits it was incredibly fishy. He was only ever visible for a split second and was in stealth way longer than 3 seconds. My thoughts are that he used this same hack from the tower wall to target our stuff and the stealth covered his teleport away.

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Posted by: arknor.6245

arknor.6245

alot of people seem to teleport or go invisible recently.

i know some classes have stealth talent perks but often it doesnt make sense

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Posted by: Azure Prower.8701

Azure Prower.8701

After a seeing a few threads about speed hacking and video evidence. I know what to look for now rather than think it was just me or them having latency issues. They are clearly moving faster than normal.

On my trip to broaderland puzzles today, I saw some one from Eredon Terrace warping across the screen (speed hack) and one from Sea of Sorrows doing the same in another area. These hackers aren’t just localized to one server.

Seems this and these exploits are on the increase in WvW and I feel pointless to write a ticket as I don’t know their names…

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Posted by: Moroz.4592

Moroz.4592

Not an exploit, just Arcane Blast, which has a 1500 range.

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Posted by: Xenos.1072

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Elementalists have a bugged lightning ability with unlimited range that is not effected by line of sight. I believe it was noted in the last patch as having been fixed, but appears to be a work in progress still.

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Posted by: Azure Prower.8701

Azure Prower.8701

Might be an exploit, but I’d guess at a hack. Just spitballing, but it could be a hack that teleports the user to his targets location and then teleports him back. The running back and forth is the server coping with the teleport.

I’m pretty sure I dealt with something similar tonight. We had a thief that would cloak and dagger our siege equipment, then vanish into thin air. Yes, I know it stealths the thief(I have a thief) but with 10+ people AOEing all around with zero hits it was incredibly fishy. He was only ever visible for a split second and was in stealth way longer than 3 seconds. My thoughts are that he used this same hack from the tower wall to target our stuff and the stealth covered his teleport away.

I’ve been noticing this too. I’m seeing thieves stealth longer than normal in WvW and they’re not using shadow refuge or near cliffs. I saw a thief from Eredon Terrace basically slaughter people because the only time he was unstealthed was when he was attacking. Constantly back stabbing them before disappearing again instantly which would not happen with the revealed debuff.

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Posted by: Bull.5491

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Not an exploit, just Arcane Blast, which has a 1500 range.

This isn’t 1500 range though, it’s way more. Arrow carts and ballistae couldn’t even reach him and they have a range of 2500 and 3000 respectively.

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Posted by: Moroz.4592

Moroz.4592

Then this player will receive a ban for abusing an exploit, sucks to be him but he’ll have to rebuy the game if he wanan play

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Posted by: DirtyHoudini.2917

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Then this player will receive a ban for abusing an exploit, sucks to be him but he’ll have to rebuy the game if he wanan play

Which is pathetic, it’s the dev’s fault that it’s in the game and yes he shouldn’t be abusing it but a perma ban for something they let into the game seems like a sorry excuse. How about this becomes their #1 priority and they hot fix it.

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Posted by: Archvonbaron.7856

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It’s a bug, the second lightning skill seems to have unlimited range. There’s no hack or exploit involved.

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Posted by: Azure Prower.8701

Azure Prower.8701

It’s a bug, the second lightning skill seems to have unlimited range. There’s no hack or exploit involved.

Exploiting a game bug is the definition of exploiting. People have received perma bans for less. I recall the vendor that sold stuff for less than it should incident.

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Posted by: Seraph.4859

Seraph.4859

Seeing this happening riaght now in WvW. And btw, try to report as “exploiting” but there is not such option on the report list. I think it should be one.

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Posted by: Anlyon.8375

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I have reported it to them like 2 weeks ago, and Ill say that i have done this a couple of times myself, but tis not really a big deal. it doesnt hit very hard, and doesnt really do much to your team, since it has a 10 sec CD and you go out of combat and heal before that time (unless they are taking down siege, which sucks)

Moreove, doing it lots means people get kitten off and make more posts meaning it gets fixed quicker. :p

I wouldnt class myself as an exploiter, and it certainly isnt fair, so i cant see what you’re saying…. but i dont think its really a bannable offence. All i do is attack with a skill haha.

Anyway, more info : Its the staff Air #2 skill which is just bugged at the moment and has unlimited range and ignores LoS.

No doubt it’ll be fixed tomorrow, and all will be well with the world.

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Posted by: Mishi.7058

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I’m a lvl 80 Ele, and I have yet to see Lightening Surge have an unlimited range.
o.O

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Posted by: Imix.6152

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This happens to me constantly inside the Eternal Battleground jumping puzzle. Some elementalist will be at the top of the Beast Pit Arena and shooting people through the walls into the Dark Room or further.

P.S , Anet just taught me a new racial slur as i attempted to write “The (EB)” minus the parentheses. The language filter kindly pointed out to me that the “T” was completely unnecessary.

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Posted by: Rebound.3409

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If it seems like it’s broken or hack or exploit..then it works as intended.

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Posted by: rhodoc.2381

rhodoc.2381

In addition, it is same for underwater. Air 2nd has no range limit

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Posted by: draculthemad.6273

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There’s another ability on another class that has this same bug, except it also doesnt even check LOS.

I’ve reported it repeatedly but its yet to be patched.

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Posted by: buki.3108

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Yes the Elementalist’s Staff/Air Attunement #2 skill, Lightning Surge, has infinite range (along with the underwater #2 skill.) You can hit things that are out of your line of sight. It does around 800 damage to siege. With the extreme amount of bugs/glitches they already have I think it might be a while before this is fixed…

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Posted by: Mug.9403

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It is unlimited range, says 1500 on the tooltip, but that is false.

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Posted by: Slamz.5376

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We’ve bugged this, marked as “exploitable”, some time ago.

Just waiting on Arenanet to catch up, I guess.

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