Guild Wars 2

So we’ve had it happen to all of us in wvw an enemy zerg exploits through walls into a tower or keep or you’ve ran into trolls building pointless siege to detract from the server effort into wvw(not to mention the poor guys who spend hours running yaks only to have their hard work ruined). So you screenshot and report but…nothing happens immediately to stop it and before you know it you’ve lost three towers and stonemist is emptied of supply with rams placed in pointless locations. There’s gotta be a better way to handle it and here’s my take on the idea. Bear in mind before you continue reading that my goal with this is to have good wvwer’s have a way to protect their good time from bored jerks and at the same time provide faster responses to exploits and other troubling issues.
1. The Admins
I propose three admins per world rotating in eight hour shifts to have immediate access to reports concerning on going issues like trolls burning supply and enemies exploiting. This will ensure constant access to an admin who can freely travel into the map and observe people in the act of these offenses.
2. Ban Appeals/Admin Overwatch
While I know Arenanet admins are employees and as such are subject to their commands. Those in rotation will report to a player ran oversight committee who can actively monitor the bans performed by the admins in response to reports and if necessary contact the admin’s admin to repeal the ban thus preventing any admin corruption/favoritism.
3. Admin Overwatch Selection
The players wishing to be selected for this committee will be subject to a full review of reports made concerning their accounts. As well as needing a caring attitude and fair judgement they should prepare themselves for a lot of work. They are meant to be the watchers of the watchers to ensure the game remains fair, safe, and best of all clean of trolls in wvw. These players will also be subject to regular review to ensure no corruption of the committee’s judgement.

In short while I know the system I have depicted is a lot of work and is not perfect I welcome all CONSTRUCTIVE criticism and comments. The goal of this again is to create a faster response system to ongoing issues in wvw and beyond. I would like to say now that the first step besides refining this idea with help from other players is to make the admins see this. Make them see our discontent and understand the change we want. In advance thank you to everyone who adds positive comments, criticism your proof that guild wars has a positive community.

And if they added something “immediate”, the amount of faulty bans will most likely increase quite a bit.
The current system at least have somewhat of a fail-safe in that they are monitored for some time before being banned (in most cases).

As for point three that is completely out of bound. Players should NEVER get the power of admins, because no matter how much you check on them there will be people that will use it in a bad way.

I never said they gain any actual power its kinda like league of legends tribunal system except theres still admins no non arenanet person(s) would gain a ban hammer. the players merely monitor the admins in a non intrusive or obstructing manner if they see misconduct they report to the admins boss who handles it at his/her discretion
though I do agree there would be a rise in faulty bans as the system is tested and possibly implemented due to things being figured out. alternately the admins could be given a temporary ban hammer with a selection of amount of time for a player to be removed from playing with the max being 24 hours and more severe infractions can be dealt with by the regular system. while the admins handle more immediate issues like wall exploits and trolling by burning supply

So basically the players get the ability to report admins they don’t like (and based on these forums it is not unlikely that people would report them just for the sake of them working for ArenaNet) and thus creating extra work for the admin admins?

I still like my own suggestion (of course) of servers self-policing. If you see someone exploiting and you do not report it, and another server sees exploiting and reports it and it’s indeed proven that there is exploiting going on or has occurred, the entire server is disqualified from the season and gets no rewards.

I really dislike people who stoop to trolling map chat, dropping needless siege, exploiting through walls, etc. It really makes it seem like the only way to win is to use these underhanded tactics, and the honest people get the penalty. Seems much like the real world.

jzack.1573:

I still like my own suggestion (of course) of servers self-policing. If you see someone exploiting and you do not report it, and another server sees exploiting and reports it and it’s indeed proven that there is exploiting going on or has occurred, the entire server is disqualified from the season and gets no rewards.

I really dislike people who stoop to trolling map chat, dropping needless siege, exploiting through walls, etc. It really makes it seem like the only way to win is to use these underhanded tactics, and the honest people get the penalty. Seems much like the real world.

the self policing idea sounds good but where would the proof come from? and with the current lag time between reporting someone and something being done wouldn’t the cheating server just continue running rampant?

lordkrall.7241:

So basically the players get the ability to report admins they don’t like (and based on these forums it is not unlikely that people would report them just for the sake of them working for ArenaNet) and thus creating extra work for the admin admins?

this is true angry players would report admins for perceived infractions on theirs and Anet’s part but I suppose my initial idea relies a tad too much on people acting properly for the interest of the whole instead of their own whims. I suppose another change could be partitioning this system within the current support system to only handle immediate issues i.e. trolling(dropping dumb siege & supply burning), wall exploits and leaving all other issues (bugs, gold sellers, etc.) to the regular support system. What do ya think?

Your proposal involves much more work (and thus, money) than Anet is willing to put into WvW.

The fact that the “report” UI doesn’t include any useful options (in terms of exploiting) shows that they actually don’t really care enough about people exploiting to do anything about it.

that’s the point we need to show them we want changes made so we can enjoy the game fully. if they didn’t follow what the entire gw2 community wants they wouldn’t make money