Guild Wars 2

KwayZee.5742:

Creslin.1758:

KwayZee.5742:

Creslin.1758:

Aeneasx.1589:

I could care less about being outnumbered. Fighting the DR zergs can be very fun.

What ISN’T fun is seeing 15-20 people refusing to come and fight 4-5 guys.

Tonight I had more greens /sleep or /laugh from a distance or even atop a tower that we chased them into, than people who engaged. We fought outside that tower for 20 minutes, then you guys come out, drop ballistas on the bridge, and still wipe? How do you even keep playing after something like that?

Yep, that seems like how it always is.

One thing I would like to know is who the freak sits on DR’s tower siege stuff like ALL day. Anytime I go to a DR tower, there is someone up there on the siege just waiting. They don’t ever come out, they just wait and then fire their siege weapons.

Are you guys hiring low wage workers from third world countries to do this?

Look I can only speak for myself on this matter.

Do not get me wrong. We love playing against you guys most of the time. NoQQ, Envy, LARP, and many more guilds. But I personally am tired of the matchups. I am not scared of the higher tiers. I am not worried about getting my kitten kicked by higher tiers either.

We all know each others strats by now, we have played against each other for so long that it is kinda meh..

Literally the only thing that matters to [PRO] is this http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

That is what we base all of decisions on. Who we attack and how we choose who gets second place on this server. That might seem a little bit of a bold statement, but for the past two weeks we have chosen who is going to be second on the server. And that server is the server that will benefit us in this whacky kitten points system that Anet uses.

Bottom line is we want to move up and play different servers. LARP, NoQQ if you guys switch servers to keep playing against DR. More power to you. Hopefully that server will have more coverage then the last one. Hopefully it will have more WvWers then the last.

Many battles and much respect between all three servers. But we just wanna move up!

Honestly, I believe you and I’m not really surprised.

PRO is a big guild. It is probably bigger than Envy, NoQQ and LARP combined. PRO also, on average, has less skilled/geared players than the aforementioned 3 guilds. Don’t get me wrong, PRO DOES have some good players. But their sheer size basically necessitates that many of their players aren’t very good.

As far as points go though, numbers matter far more than skill. So, it really is no surprise to me that a huge guild like PRO can highly influence who comes in second place.

As for me though, I don’t really care. I play WvW to fight players, the points and objective taking is almost always just a means to that end for me. I may want to take a tower or camp just to goad people into attacking it. But I don’t really care about holding it…I just want to kill.

<—— The Asuran Thief that finally had to go out and kill you at Bluelake tower, After I sat on the tower and beckoned you and watched you 5 v 1 people for 30 minutes and still manage to get away everytime lol…

Was good times heh, even though I am sure a couple of pugs engaged you when we were fighting. But the only time you actually died was when I finally jumped off that tower.

Wow you must be really good…you killed a guy 6v1 then came on the forums to brag about it.

Also, theres about 58 Asuran thieves in your guild, all of which sit in towers and only jump down for fights when you vastly outnumber someone. You will have to be more specific.

So much hate thrown around on these forums…..

I got on siege last night just to anger Larp, but alas I could not remember which buttons to press when I was blinded by the aura of thousand suns that surrounded a solitary Larp engineer. My eyes never beheld such a sight and I can now die content knowing I have seen perfection.

I would like to confess that I am one of the people who can commonly be found manning towers. On top of that, I usually run from 1v1 fights when I am alone (most of the time). Why? I am not that great at PvP, thats why I do WvW instead of sPvP. Instead, I run supplies, upgrade towers and camps, and put down and man siege.

Most of the people I see manning keeps, towers and SM siege arent there waiting for a random person or group to happen by. We are listening and observing for things that need doing and doing it. While it may not sound fun to people who prefer to follow the zerg or patrol the wilds for stragglers, I have to admit I get a kick out of trebbing the OL outer walls from SM and killing the trebs they put up to take mine down (the Fergs were better at that IMO). I occasionally follow the zerg on a lowbie for exp, or when more people are needed to take something. I prefer to work on the objective aspects of WvW and trying to strengthen our hand so we dont lose everything the infamous mindless DR zergs take and leave. You do your thing, I’ll do mine, thanks.

Mampie Moll
DR

Lately I have been doing similar Mampie. Though for me it is mostly spending my wvw time running back and forth repairing walls after our team defended a place then moved on to counter attack. Someone has to do it :P.

Berkut.2837:

Lately I have been doing similar Mampie. Though for me it is mostly spending my wvw time running back and forth repairing walls after our team defended a place then moved on to counter attack. Someone has to do it :P.

you’re good at supply camp defense too :p i had fun with you yesterday between arah’s and gods.

KwayZee.5742:

Creslin.1758:

KwayZee.5742:

Creslin.1758:

Aeneasx.1589:

I could care less about being outnumbered. Fighting the DR zergs can be very fun.

What ISN’T fun is seeing 15-20 people refusing to come and fight 4-5 guys.

Tonight I had more greens /sleep or /laugh from a distance or even atop a tower that we chased them into, than people who engaged. We fought outside that tower for 20 minutes, then you guys come out, drop ballistas on the bridge, and still wipe? How do you even keep playing after something like that?

Yep, that seems like how it always is.

One thing I would like to know is who the freak sits on DR’s tower siege stuff like ALL day. Anytime I go to a DR tower, there is someone up there on the siege just waiting. They don’t ever come out, they just wait and then fire their siege weapons.

Are you guys hiring low wage workers from third world countries to do this?

Look I can only speak for myself on this matter.

Do not get me wrong. We love playing against you guys most of the time. NoQQ, Envy, LARP, and many more guilds. But I personally am tired of the matchups. I am not scared of the higher tiers. I am not worried about getting my kitten kicked by higher tiers either.

We all know each others strats by now, we have played against each other for so long that it is kinda meh..

Literally the only thing that matters to [PRO] is this http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

That is what we base all of decisions on. Who we attack and how we choose who gets second place on this server. That might seem a little bit of a bold statement, but for the past two weeks we have chosen who is going to be second on the server. And that server is the server that will benefit us in this whacky kitten points system that Anet uses.

Bottom line is we want to move up and play different servers. LARP, NoQQ if you guys switch servers to keep playing against DR. More power to you. Hopefully that server will have more coverage then the last one. Hopefully it will have more WvWers then the last.

Many battles and much respect between all three servers. But we just wanna move up!

Honestly, I believe you and I’m not really surprised.

PRO is a big guild. It is probably bigger than Envy, NoQQ and LARP combined. PRO also, on average, has less skilled/geared players than the aforementioned 3 guilds. Don’t get me wrong, PRO DOES have some good players. But their sheer size basically necessitates that many of their players aren’t very good.

As far as points go though, numbers matter far more than skill. So, it really is no surprise to me that a huge guild like PRO can highly influence who comes in second place.

As for me though, I don’t really care. I play WvW to fight players, the points and objective taking is almost always just a means to that end for me. I may want to take a tower or camp just to goad people into attacking it. But I don’t really care about holding it…I just want to kill.

<—— The Asuran Thief that finally had to go out and kill you at Bluelake tower, After I sat on the tower and beckoned you and watched you 5 v 1 people for 30 minutes and still manage to get away everytime lol…

Was good times heh, even though I am sure a couple of pugs engaged you when we were fighting. But the only time you actually died was when I finally jumped off that tower.

Haha yes, that was indeed fun! I was wondering if anyone would mention those hijinks on the forums.

And yeah, I got the thieves confused, but there were some high DPS thieves there that were the only ones giving me trouble, and like you say, you eventually took me down. Also, I didn’t just get away, more than often I would kill at least 2 of them…or dragged them to the spawn and they would suicide upon the legendary defenders.

Still I must say, while it makes sense for me to be /beckoning you all off the tower…I didn’t really get the 5 people on the tower doing /beckon at the one guy on the ground lol. Are you saying “Come, run into my arrow cart!”

Regardless, I will completely admit that you are a decent player, probably the only one there as I was able to dispatch the others while being outnumbered, hit by siege and hit/CC’d by the guard NPCs.

But it’s incidents like this that gives DR the rep it has. Five people…inside a tower, too afraid to fight one guy outside.

Siad.3608:

KwayZee.5742:

Creslin.1758:

KwayZee.5742:

Creslin.1758:

Aeneasx.1589:

I could care less about being outnumbered. Fighting the DR zergs can be very fun.

What ISN’T fun is seeing 15-20 people refusing to come and fight 4-5 guys.

Tonight I had more greens /sleep or /laugh from a distance or even atop a tower that we chased them into, than people who engaged. We fought outside that tower for 20 minutes, then you guys come out, drop ballistas on the bridge, and still wipe? How do you even keep playing after something like that?

Yep, that seems like how it always is.

One thing I would like to know is who the freak sits on DR’s tower siege stuff like ALL day. Anytime I go to a DR tower, there is someone up there on the siege just waiting. They don’t ever come out, they just wait and then fire their siege weapons.

Are you guys hiring low wage workers from third world countries to do this?

Look I can only speak for myself on this matter.

Do not get me wrong. We love playing against you guys most of the time. NoQQ, Envy, LARP, and many more guilds. But I personally am tired of the matchups. I am not scared of the higher tiers. I am not worried about getting my kitten kicked by higher tiers either.

We all know each others strats by now, we have played against each other for so long that it is kinda meh..

Literally the only thing that matters to [PRO] is this http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

That is what we base all of decisions on. Who we attack and how we choose who gets second place on this server. That might seem a little bit of a bold statement, but for the past two weeks we have chosen who is going to be second on the server. And that server is the server that will benefit us in this whacky kitten points system that Anet uses.

Bottom line is we want to move up and play different servers. LARP, NoQQ if you guys switch servers to keep playing against DR. More power to you. Hopefully that server will have more coverage then the last one. Hopefully it will have more WvWers then the last.

Many battles and much respect between all three servers. But we just wanna move up!

Honestly, I believe you and I’m not really surprised.

PRO is a big guild. It is probably bigger than Envy, NoQQ and LARP combined. PRO also, on average, has less skilled/geared players than the aforementioned 3 guilds. Don’t get me wrong, PRO DOES have some good players. But their sheer size basically necessitates that many of their players aren’t very good.

As far as points go though, numbers matter far more than skill. So, it really is no surprise to me that a huge guild like PRO can highly influence who comes in second place.

As for me though, I don’t really care. I play WvW to fight players, the points and objective taking is almost always just a means to that end for me. I may want to take a tower or camp just to goad people into attacking it. But I don’t really care about holding it…I just want to kill.

<—— The Asuran Thief that finally had to go out and kill you at Bluelake tower, After I sat on the tower and beckoned you and watched you 5 v 1 people for 30 minutes and still manage to get away everytime lol…

Was good times heh, even though I am sure a couple of pugs engaged you when we were fighting. But the only time you actually died was when I finally jumped off that tower.

Wow you must be really good…you killed a guy 6v1 then came on the forums to brag about it.

Also, theres about 58 Asuran thieves in your guild, all of which sit in towers and only jump down for fights when you vastly outnumber someone. You will have to be more specific.

Reading comprehension would probably help you out some. Just saying..

Creslin.1758:

KwayZee.5742:

Creslin.1758:

KwayZee.5742:

Creslin.1758:

Aeneasx.1589:

I could care less about being outnumbered. Fighting the DR zergs can be very fun.

What ISN’T fun is seeing 15-20 people refusing to come and fight 4-5 guys.

Tonight I had more greens /sleep or /laugh from a distance or even atop a tower that we chased them into, than people who engaged. We fought outside that tower for 20 minutes, then you guys come out, drop ballistas on the bridge, and still wipe? How do you even keep playing after something like that?

Yep, that seems like how it always is.

One thing I would like to know is who the freak sits on DR’s tower siege stuff like ALL day. Anytime I go to a DR tower, there is someone up there on the siege just waiting. They don’t ever come out, they just wait and then fire their siege weapons.

Are you guys hiring low wage workers from third world countries to do this?

Look I can only speak for myself on this matter.

Do not get me wrong. We love playing against you guys most of the time. NoQQ, Envy, LARP, and many more guilds. But I personally am tired of the matchups. I am not scared of the higher tiers. I am not worried about getting my kitten kicked by higher tiers either.

We all know each others strats by now, we have played against each other for so long that it is kinda meh..

Literally the only thing that matters to [PRO] is this http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

That is what we base all of decisions on. Who we attack and how we choose who gets second place on this server. That might seem a little bit of a bold statement, but for the past two weeks we have chosen who is going to be second on the server. And that server is the server that will benefit us in this whacky kitten points system that Anet uses.

Bottom line is we want to move up and play different servers. LARP, NoQQ if you guys switch servers to keep playing against DR. More power to you. Hopefully that server will have more coverage then the last one. Hopefully it will have more WvWers then the last.

Many battles and much respect between all three servers. But we just wanna move up!

Honestly, I believe you and I’m not really surprised.

PRO is a big guild. It is probably bigger than Envy, NoQQ and LARP combined. PRO also, on average, has less skilled/geared players than the aforementioned 3 guilds. Don’t get me wrong, PRO DOES have some good players. But their sheer size basically necessitates that many of their players aren’t very good.

As far as points go though, numbers matter far more than skill. So, it really is no surprise to me that a huge guild like PRO can highly influence who comes in second place.

As for me though, I don’t really care. I play WvW to fight players, the points and objective taking is almost always just a means to that end for me. I may want to take a tower or camp just to goad people into attacking it. But I don’t really care about holding it…I just want to kill.

<—— The Asuran Thief that finally had to go out and kill you at Bluelake tower, After I sat on the tower and beckoned you and watched you 5 v 1 people for 30 minutes and still manage to get away everytime lol…

Was good times heh, even though I am sure a couple of pugs engaged you when we were fighting. But the only time you actually died was when I finally jumped off that tower.

Haha yes, that was indeed fun! I was wondering if anyone would mention those hijinks on the forums.

And yeah, I got the thieves confused, but there were some high DPS thieves there that were the only ones giving me trouble, and like you say, you eventually took me down. Also, I didn’t just get away, more than often I would kill at least 2 of them…or dragged them to the spawn and they would suicide upon the legendary defenders.

Still I must say, while it makes sense for me to be /beckoning you all off the tower…I didn’t really get the 5 people on the tower doing /beckon at the one guy on the ground lol. Are you saying “Come, run into my arrow cart!”

Regardless, I will completely admit that you are a decent player, probably the only one there as I was able to dispatch the others while being outnumbered, hit by siege and hit/CC’d by the guard NPCs.

But it’s incidents like this that gives DR the rep it has. Five people…inside a tower, too afraid to fight one guy outside.

Yeah it was fun. My objective was to just keep the tower. But then I saw you tearing up 4 to 5 people at a time and was like hmm…

After you dispatched them I came down and started fighting you and before the match was over the others had come back. I will admit I did not down you by myself but it was an epic battle until the randoms came back haha.

Ender.3508:

Love you Ras and [SoCo] and [RGTG] but my guildies are desiring a change of pace, and when its not us running in WvW its a mess of zerginess on DR’s part.

almost 2 months have passed. I am JUST able to understand Dismay in TS and now you are all shopping around. I left DR for a little more than a week and tested out a few servers with another guild I know. I liked Dr.

We’ve grown in population which means that we are going to need more and more non zergers. Trends take a while to catch on, and once we move up, and catch a beating with our current WvW format we are bound to lose lots of pink hats.

You’ve endured the days of not having the man power to defend the northern part of the DRB. You have endured the worst that the lowest of the low will go through. Everything we face now is growth. numbers, skill, tactics, communication. Your head is in far too good a place to leave a place where you are needed.

Zizanzi.4678:

Drednyte.7601:

Oozo.7856:

So yeah today I discovered something pleasant.. People in Kaineng are using hacks! First I saw a Sylvari Necro fly away when I was kind of owning him, and later on I find several other flying Kains. Also I have had the issue of not being able to finish people off. 1 of those was a fly hacker so I’m almost certain that that is also a hack.

Sad to see that you guys have hackers on your side!

I asked Habib about this and he actually directly replied.

Tonight i saw and reported a Kaineng using the speed hack. He was from the [CNB] guild, thats about 4-5 times this week I’ve heard of that particular guild having members using hacks. Hopefully the reports will get reviewed and some accounts will get banned.

@ LARP/NoQQ — not sure if i understand your concept of war. You claim u like to just fight, ignoring server rankings and such. But you jump ship from Kain and run to Ferg. Not like there wasnt any fighting on Kain. Then you claim in the forums, at least NoQQ has, that when DR moves up you’re going to transfer to the #1 ranked server in that bracket. You claim that DR hasnt got any Wv3rs in general, with a few exceptions, you boast and chest thump about how great you are….yet you want to transfer to continue to fight DR? Sounds like that’s a huge compliment to everyone on DR. I mean, if you were as good as you keep ranting in the forums and if we’re so easy to kill and you want nothing but a good fight…why transfer? Obviously your forum rants are fake, you must think DR is a serious threat and great competition.

But on a side note: no real need after this to even address you 2 as you did nothing on Kaineng to help with server advancement, and from what I’m told, nothing on Ferg either. Still not sure why if u just want to fight you dont do sPvP or tPvP….unless you tried and it didnt work out as planned. Well gluck to yas!

@Chris: I was gaining respect for you, until now. When u was on DR you publicly chatted how you’re only in Wv3 for exp/karma trains. You got a very bad rep for it and then you bounced to Ferg. Started hearing good things about you there, and ur Np guild. But lets be honest a bit. Pretty much the only time i see Np is just like when i see SoS…in force of 20+. If you cant zerg I only see the dedicated Wv3rs from Np in the fight. 90% of what I see you do, when Im online, is PvDoor. Just like SoS late night…nobody is on so they take their 25-30+ zerg and PvDoor the maps. But you hit some defense you’re zerg tends to fall to pieces. Np and SoS have both been crushed at your Hills repeatedly by 6-8 DR players. At one point SoS just stopped trying to take it back, now we dont even bother taking it cuz no fights anymore.

And the end: All servers have their “primetime” zergs, their offshift teams, their soloist…etc.

Ton of great players on all 3 servers and I’m sure you all will keep up the great matches. When DR moves up a tier I’ll be watching closely what you all do. I fully expect Kaineng to take the bracket after DR and we’ll meet again maybe. Ferg..well, short of getting some guilds/players in there that want to advance and not just do PvP….pretty sure Ferg will be the “bottom of the bucket” for the unforseen future.

@ DredWhatChaMaCallIt

No one on the servers even knows who you are other than what you type on the forums. Who the heck are you really? I know small man is not popular with you at all. I sense from the forums you are competent, capable, and dangerous though and you appear to have a “loathing” for small man PVP. I have no doubt that your intentions are to be the vocal assassin of small man groups while trying to have others in the guild recruit them to DR. Perhaps you don’t understand the mentality of small man since Devona’s is pretty much a Zerg server and you need to lash out at what you don’t understand. You Sir have no legitimacy in commenting on small mans @ all and I can say with confidence for all of NoQQ/LARP that only your numbers gives you a chance.

Stylii Elementalist
Shoulda Rolled Kaineng (NoQQ) Leader

I think his sentiment is about the same as mine. I skimmed this thread, saw a post from NOQQ saying they will be joining the #1 server of the next tier for what? To beat DR? Seriously – grow up. I thought you had a guild of mature people before you started talking about jumping ship from your server just to hold onto a childish grudge.

No hate here. I respect those good DR players at the keep last night. I’m not too good at PvP so I tried to stay on the wall with my healer ele. After all, someone has to keep the troops in good health… Just that every time I poke my nose out to get LOS, it gets shot off (figuratively). I dunno how many red circles I tried to dodge up there. It does get disheartening seeing all that green though….

Zizanzi.4678:

@ DredWhatChaMaCallIt

No one on the servers even knows who you are other than what you type on the forums. Who the heck are you really? I know small man is not popular with you at all. I sense from the forums you are competent, capable, and dangerous though and you appear to have a “loathing” for small man PVP. I have no doubt that your intentions are to be the vocal assassin of small man groups while trying to have others in the guild recruit them to DR. Perhaps you don’t understand the mentality of small man since Devona’s is pretty much a Zerg server and you need to lash out at what you don’t understand. You Sir have no legitimacy in commenting on small mans @ all and I can say with confidence for all of NoQQ/LARP that only your numbers gives you a chance.

Stylii Elementalist
Shoulda Rolled Kaineng (NoQQ) Leader

You mistake me, i dont hate small group fighting! I love it actually, but i moved from a Tier 1 server all the way to the bottom for the lower queue times and increased fighting action. But mainly for the struggle to try to push a bottom tier upwards. I guess i shouldnt have made it sound as though i “hate” NoQQ/LARP, as i dont. I just think there’s a place for pure fighting and not helping server progression, its in the PvP environment. I understand your large scale fighting enthusiasm, and i sooooo wish PvP had a giant map for such (a WvW PvP map instead of a wv3?) I’m in chats with lots of folks from both Kain and Ferg and one of the common themes when we talk about guilds on those servers is the guilds that are highly active in Wv3, but contribute little to nothing to progression. That’s what I was directing comments at. You both have some great players and your teamwork is one to be proud of an emulated by everyone else. Now if you’d take that small group teamwork and push it outward to include other Wv3rs on the server…..imagine the possibilities! It just seems you actually limit yourselves by focusing on “killing DR and PRO”, i believe you as guilds, players, and both servers have so much more to offer than that petty statement. You’ve proven time and time again you have awesome small scale strats, I’d love to see it extended large scale and see you advance your server vs being happy at the bottom.

@Etna
Not sure who was talking to you about transfering and joining PRO, wasnt me. I’ve talked to 2 guild leaders on both Ferg/Kain and we discussed them transfering to DR and/or joining PRO…neither was you or your guild. So dunno who was talking to you and please refrain from stating a “guild” want’s you when you’re talking to someone from a guild. Short of Phiz, the guild leader, talking to you about it, everyone else is a one v one conversation, not a guild v one. Understand?

@Tigilie “Drednyte, you should focus more on actually winning the matchup instead of what LARP is doing”
— Um…8 weeks in a row of wins. Send me your address and I’ll mail you a free copy of Webster’s New World Dictionary so you can look up the meaning of “Win” and “Lose”, seems you have it backwards.

@Creslin “PRO is a big guild. It is probably bigger than Envy, NoQQ and LARP combined”
— PRO has 340 members currently with about 30 getting kicked this Friday as they havent been active since we transfered to DR. Of the remaining 310, about half are purely PvErs who never Wv3. 155 left, out of that an easy 40-50 still game but do so 1-2 times a week for less than 3 hours, ie: not counted on for progression. So the PRO numbers we can field are a little over 100 members that on average game 3-4 times a week for bout 4-5 hours. Spread that out over the week and you’ll see that PRO isnt anywhere near as “big” as folks seem to think nor can field “huge PRO zergs” as been commented in the past. If you actually pay attention you’ll see the majority of time, not counting primetime on our “max member days”, the average PRO group is normally 6-10 members and we tend to focus on objectives instead of zerging karma trains.

Drednyte.7601:

Zizanzi.4678:

@ DredWhatChaMaCallIt

No one on the servers even knows who you are other than what you type on the forums. Who the heck are you really? I know small man is not popular with you at all. I sense from the forums you are competent, capable, and dangerous though and you appear to have a “loathing” for small man PVP. I have no doubt that your intentions are to be the vocal assassin of small man groups while trying to have others in the guild recruit them to DR. Perhaps you don’t understand the mentality of small man since Devona’s is pretty much a Zerg server and you need to lash out at what you don’t understand. You Sir have no legitimacy in commenting on small mans @ all and I can say with confidence for all of NoQQ/LARP that only your numbers gives you a chance.

Stylii Elementalist
Shoulda Rolled Kaineng (NoQQ) Leader

You mistake me, i dont hate small group fighting! I love it actually, but i moved from a Tier 1 server all the way to the bottom for the lower queue times and increased fighting action. But mainly for the struggle to try to push a bottom tier upwards. I guess i shouldnt have made it sound as though i “hate” NoQQ/LARP, as i dont. I just think there’s a place for pure fighting and not helping server progression, its in the PvP environment. I understand your large scale fighting enthusiasm, and i sooooo wish PvP had a giant map for such (a WvW PvP map instead of a wv3?) I’m in chats with lots of folks from both Kain and Ferg and one of the common themes when we talk about guilds on those servers is the guilds that are highly active in Wv3, but contribute little to nothing to progression. That’s what I was directing comments at. You both have some great players and your teamwork is one to be proud of an emulated by everyone else. Now if you’d take that small group teamwork and push it outward to include other Wv3rs on the server…..imagine the possibilities! It just seems you actually limit yourselves by focusing on “killing DR and PRO”, i believe you as guilds, players, and both servers have so much more to offer than that petty statement. You’ve proven time and time again you have awesome small scale strats, I’d love to see it extended large scale and see you advance your server vs being happy at the bottom.

@Etna
Not sure who was talking to you about transfering and joining PRO, wasnt me. I’ve talked to 2 guild leaders on both Ferg/Kain and we discussed them transfering to DR and/or joining PRO…neither was you or your guild. So dunno who was talking to you and please refrain from stating a “guild” want’s you when you’re talking to someone from a guild. Short of Phiz, the guild leader, talking to you about it, everyone else is a one v one conversation, not a guild v one. Understand?

@Tigilie “Drednyte, you should focus more on actually winning the matchup instead of what LARP is doing”
— Um…8 weeks in a row of wins. Send me your address and I’ll mail you a free copy of Webster’s New World Dictionary so you can look up the meaning of “Win” and “Lose”, seems you have it backwards.

@Creslin “PRO is a big guild. It is probably bigger than Envy, NoQQ and LARP combined”
— PRO has 340 members currently with about 30 getting kicked this Friday as they havent been active since we transfered to DR. Of the remaining 310, about half are purely PvErs who never Wv3. 155 left, out of that an easy 40-50 still game but do so 1-2 times a week for less than 3 hours, ie: not counted on for progression. So the PRO numbers we can field are a little over 100 members that on average game 3-4 times a week for bout 4-5 hours. Spread that out over the week and you’ll see that PRO isnt anywhere near as “big” as folks seem to think nor can field “huge PRO zergs” as been commented in the past. If you actually pay attention you’ll see the majority of time, not counting primetime on our “max member days”, the average PRO group is normally 6-10 members and we tend to focus on objectives instead of zerging karma trains.

340 is pretty big. I think that ENVY has on the order of 15-25. Not sure about the exact number. Normally only around 10 are on at a time.

And in response to your comment about just running around the PvPing not having a “place” in WvW…

I gotta disagree. Even if a small man doesn’t care about the score…they will influence it just by being there. Small mans will always seek out players to fight. And those players, are probably trying to take some objective or whatever…thus killing them hinders that goal.

In addition, small mans will often take a camp or even a tower just for the fun of defending it.

Basically what I’m saying is that just because a group doesn’t actively care about getting points or “winning” the match, doesn’t mean they aren’t indirectly contributing.

This was a depressing read today… i see all the haters are out in force again… instead of talking about great battles and goodtimes… all i see is poor sportsmanship… i do recognize a few tongue & cheek sarcastic comments that gave me a chuckle… but for the most part… its just spite inspired bickering.

i understand being defencive and wanting to stand behind your server… but at this point… i hope Moderater closes this Thread again.

Im likely the person that gives [PRO] its “Cant play” reputation… i die often… but i am respectful of my opponents… im greatful for every lesson they teach me… i ran into a group last night i believe are called [POX] 3-4 Asuran Mezmers (hard to tell number, they mulitplied so fast)… chased them for 2 hrs searching the map looking for them over & over… they defeated me just about everytime… but i learned from every loss… & i had the most fun ive had in last 2 weeks.. its a Game everyone… Just Pixals & Math

to my Opponents that ive had the great fortune to befriend… to chat with… ask Gameplay advice… or discuss ppl hacking and keeping the Game Honest… you have my gratitude and respect…

p.s. Magaera Enflanza… you are one tough D/D Ele… saw you running solo yesterday… much respect

“Break Out Events are special WvW events that will happen when a team has lost control of all defensive structures, not counting supply camps. An NPC commander will appear in the team’s start area and an event will start that prompts players to gather around. Once enough players are in the commander’s presence he will summon his trusty dolyak to give all allies in the area full supply. He will then lead the charge to the nearby objective and give players protection and assist with building siege to assault the objective with. Those benefits, along with a defensive boon that he applies to all nearby allies, makes the attacking players a force to be reckoned with. Defenders will have their work cut out for them, as once the gate or wall piece is destroyed the commander will move to the tower lord inside and attack anyone in his path.”

lol LOL LOOOL for sure we will see this at K.

Darwinism.8619:

This was a depressing read today… i see all the haters are out in force again… instead of talking about great battles and goodtimes… all i see is poor sportsmanship… i do recognize a few tongue & cheek sarcastic comments that gave me a chuckle… but for the most part… its just spite inspired bickering.

i understand being defencive and wanting to stand behind your server… but at this point… i hope Moderater closes this Thread again.

Im likely the person that gives [PRO] its “Cant play” reputation… i die often… but i am respectful of my opponents… im greatful for every lesson they teach me… i ran into a group last night i believe are called [POX] 3-4 Asuran Mezmers (hard to tell number, they mulitplied so fast)… chased them for 2 hrs searching the map looking for them over & over… they defeated me just about everytime… but i learned from every loss… & i had the most fun ive had in last 2 weeks.. its a Game everyone… Just Pixals & Math

to my Opponents that ive had the great fortune to befriend… to chat with… ask Gameplay advice… or discuss ppl hacking and keeping the Game Honest… you have my gratitude and respect…

p.s. Magaera Enflanza… you are one tough D/D Ele… saw you running solo yesterday… much respect

Pixels" lets hope your “math” is better than your spelling. LARP can tutor as well, for a fee.

Darwin has been nothing but nice to everyone on here. LARP guild is best guild? Who needs the tutor?

If you need tutored on how to actually win 1 week of WvW I am sure PRO can tutor you on that.

Did it before.

Coverage is the #1 decider on who gets the most points. Extending your coverage by having people sacrifice sleep/work can help with that. Otherwise you need people. Then you need to use those people better overall than the other two servers. We did it when we ousted ferg from first, we extended our coverage in numbers, with the help of SoS in oceanic prime we had the best coverage, and we took first.

Also i giggled at the DR people ‘mad’ at kaing because we ‘dared’ take you BL around reset.

Ohno, someone is taking my things in a video game. Its not like you guys havent taken your share of things out of our BL on an almost daily basis… should we be mad about that? Kain attacks DR because DR is the only legit target right now. Attacking fergs BL requires a lot of people we dont have, attacking DR’s BL helps take pressure off our own BL and EB. Ferg doesnt generally attack our BL because they also cant split their forces to fight us and DR at the same time. If they push our BL with enough people to take it, they will be sacrficing their BL to DR, which I think they are not willing to do.

Ok, I am a commander Firefly from DR. This is how the fight for Kain borderlands panned out last night, so read if you like strategy that I use, instead of pure head on attacks.

I came onto the map to start control of greenbriar, bluevale and victors. I accomplished that after 15min of fighting both Kain and Ferg by hitting the back wall of Greenbriar. Once I got that there was too many Kain to start trebbing Bay. So I headed up north with the few people I had at that time. We took Cliffside by hitting the wall around the corner with 2 catas, we ran out of supply after the first, so people had to go take the north supply camp instead of the camp next to us, so we wouldn’t bring the Kain to us. Wall went down, we took Cliffside, few min later Kain showed up just as we captured it. Few DR died then, so I went back to spawn to start over since the element of surprise was gone. We retook victors, and headed north towards Hills, We started catapulting the outer wall with 2 catas, we got found out about 5min later and their wall was on around 20% with the small group I had. I then waypointed back again and by then another commander had joined in, and started a group trebbing Bay Keep. We fought that place for what felt like hours. Once we finally got through the outer wall, we had a small zerg and 4 commanders, which was sad. We took Bay but in the mean time Ferg were hitting Hills wall and decided they would try steal Bay off us, they tried zerging us, but they didn’t get into the outer gate. We then remembered that Hills was attacked by Ferg, so we picked up on their work and turns out the outer wall was at 5% ish. So we hit there, took Hills 5min later. I then took my group up north to start attacking Longview, I succeeded 5min later. I co-ordinated with the other commanders to attack different areas. 1 was down south entertaining ferg, 1 was at cliffside doing a front on attack with trebs at garrison which was the kain distraction, and I built 2 golems and hit watergate at garrison. We weren’t found out until we got to the inner gate because we played our cards right so we wouldn’t have the swords on our location to attract attention, also we had a good distraction. By the time Kain knew what hit them, the ‘Gate’ was downed within 30sec and we stormed it for the victory.

As you see, DR doesn’t just Zerg, a lot of the time we accomplish stuff by hitting where they least expect it.

Helps when kain doesnt have the numbers to counter attack though, at all.

Strategy like that depends on outnumbering the enemy, splitting off that number of force while still being able to repel kain at cliffside speaks of a significant numbers advantage. And by last night you mean like 2am or later my time, when I left WvW last night we still had all our keeps.

I am currently suffering from GW2/WvW withdrawal. Internet still not back after 12 days. I am missing so much stuff. I have resorted into posting this into this thread just to get some GW2 WvW action. T_T (I’m extremely bored…) See you guys in a few days, hopefully I can get my internet back before DR moves up a tier. You guys have fun, too much hate can kill people.

@LARP, you guys want a free tut stop running away from 1 ranger when your getting your face stomped. Also tell that Char Thief to stop running away his bow does more damage why is he losing so badly. Oh I know try pressing more then 1 key over and over.

What a joke….. Learn some respect and get a rep for your guild cause atm your just as bad as the rest.

I really don’t have the effort to read like 99% of the posts, maybe if they were crudely drawn in crayon or performed in interpretive dance to Kenny G’s smooth saxomophone.

Also, what’s this about free tutoring? Where can I sign up?

Oh snap, was almost completely off topic. I had some fun at a supply camp yesterday!

Sol.4310:

@LARP, you guys want a free tut stop running away from 1 ranger when your getting your face stomped. Also tell that Char Thief to stop running away his bow does more damage why is he losing so badly. Oh I know try pressing more then 1 key over and over.

What a joke….. Learn some respect and get a rep for your guild cause atm your just as bad as the rest.

BEST POST EVER!

To all that either like or hate me on this cluster, “goodbye”. Thanks for making it fun in both the realm WvWvW and the forums. Good luck to all and hope our paths cross again. Had some very enjoyable moments and others that left me scratching my head. Anyway, " Goodbye".

Stylii Elementalist (Staff)
(NoQQ)

Sol.4310:

@LARP, you guys want a free tut stop running away from 1 ranger when your getting your face stomped. Also tell that Char Thief to stop running away his bow does more damage why is he losing so badly. Oh I know try pressing more then 1 key over and over.

What a joke….. Learn some respect and get a rep for your guild cause atm your just as bad as the rest.

y u mad bro

ss or it didn’t happen

@LARP lol fail….. Talk is cheap why don’t you come to WvW and find me and kill me, no wait only thing LARP is good at is being a “Forum Warrior”.

DR is trying thier very best not to move up a tier, go Ferg!

If DR has a strategy, its lost in the zerg. Mostly cause we are usually outnumbered. It’s getting to the point that I try running from DR while scouting (which doesn’t work too well but staying to fight doesn’t either). It’s usually the actual lvl 80’s too. Only DR kills my eng has got was in group melee.

*toot toot*

*chinga chinga chinga*

*squeaks*

*hisst*

Ladies and gentelmen, train number 5 - 0 - 5 going to W - V - W is now boarding.

Please mind the platform gap when boarding the train.

=3

My new WvW strategy is to do the Norn male /cry emote in the direction of Stonemist 5 times per day.

Nethod.7068:

My new WvW strategy is to do the Norn male /cry emote in the direction of Stonemist 5 times per day.

lol favorite post so far

KwayZee.5742:

Darwin has been nothing but nice to everyone on here. LARP guild is best guild? Who needs the tutor?

If you need tutored on how to actually win 1 week of WvW I am sure PRO can tutor you on that.

Does it go something like this?
1. Join high pop server and recruit like crazy
2. Transfer large guild to the least populated tier
3. ???
4. Win

Chaster Sharpshooter.3640:

toot toot

chinga chinga chinga

squeaks

hisst

Ladies and gentelmen, train number 5 – 0 – 5 going to W – V – W is now boarding.

Please mind the platform gap when boarding the train.

=3

You crack me up, bro! Lmao

to the naked AoD who kept running into the Kaineng spawn in EB last night

sorry man, i wanted to dance with you but everyone else thought you should be killed for having waxed your entire body

well switched to DR since they movin up a tier and there will be some good fights. Got tired of the new kaineng. Other then the main guilds the pugs here are dumb as bricks.

Takin most of kainengs map was fun today tried to get a battle marker on every gate for the lols.

Fun fights in DR, Kains, and Ferg BL. I thought I’d die laughing when the DR group got to Kains Garrison…and in mapchat i see..“nobody has siege or supplies”….rofl

Some folks never learn eh…. well gratz on defending it from the nubs. They all left when they failed at taking it. Gave u a chance to PvDoor back ur map. We started to put up a little defense at Hills, but no supplies, no siege, and all of 7-8 of us there just wasnt gonna compete with the 20+ u had at the south gate. Was fun though.

Props to you all!

Shadowkx.2738:

Does it go something like this?
1. Join high pop server and recruit like crazy
2. Transfer large guild to the least populated tier
3. ???
4. Win

?? We transfered from a high pop server after recruiting like crazy??

Can you inform me when and where that happened as you seem to have all these socalled “facts”. What i remember was a dead server so a guild concurance to move…the guild leader didnt research, just literally picked the last ranked server in the game.

Oh, and please check my post AGAIN about PRO’s numbers. Dunno why everyone keeps getting stuck on the 300+ part and not what’s actually in Wv3. But hey, some might have a reading disorder so I wont bother them.

PS: I touched maself and it burns…..

KwayZee.5742:

Chris.4527:

KwayZee.5742:

we have chosen who is going to be second on the server.

LOL

I am sorry, that’s just to good.

Believe what you want Chris. We know what we have been doing. Why do you think you guys are even on points?

Week 47: From 2012-11-17 to 2012-11-24 we knocked Ferg below Kain.
Week 48: From 2012-11-25 to 2012-12-01 we screwed up and Kain took second again costing us 86 points.

Week 49: From 2012-12-02 to 2012-12-07 Ferg took second and we gained points.

Now this week unless Kain just rolls over to Ferg to screw us over, we are going to knock Ferg to third so we gain the most points that we can. Mark my words Mr. Chris Ivey.

That hilarious, because I’ve hardly seen you guys touch the fergs. Constantly on our BL. Not to mention at the start of the week I watched a group of fergs and devs work together to attack us. Whatever we place we’ve earned ourselves. Not because YOU have “decided”.

Drednyte.7601:

Fun fights in DR, Kains, and Ferg BL. I thought I’d die laughing when the DR group got to Kains Garrison…and in mapchat i see..“nobody has siege or supplies”….rofl

Some folks never learn eh…. well gratz on defending it from the nubs. They all left when they failed at taking it. Gave u a chance to PvDoor back ur map. We started to put up a little defense at Hills, but no supplies, no siege, and all of 7-8 of us there just wasnt gonna compete with the 20+ u had at the south gate. Was fun though.

Props to you all!

You should really work on your “props”. Idk if I should say thanks or what. You guys had so many at our garrison earlier. We were going at a 45 min+ defend there. Then yeah we did take our BL back because you guys just all up and left after we won at the garrison.

Drednyte.7601:

Shadowkx.2738:

Does it go something like this?
1. Join high pop server and recruit like crazy
2. Transfer large guild to the least populated tier
3. ???
4. Win

?? We transfered from a high pop server after recruiting like crazy??

Can you inform me when and where that happened as you seem to have all these socalled “facts”. What i remember was a dead server so a guild concurance to move…the guild leader didnt research, just literally picked the last ranked server in the game.

Oh, and please check my post AGAIN about PRO’s numbers. Dunno why everyone keeps getting stuck on the 300+ part and not what’s actually in Wv3. But hey, some might have a reading disorder so I wont bother them.

PS: I touched maself and it burns…..

Tis true on PRO’s numbers. They only had like 28 or so people on and bout 15-20 were in wvw so the PRO’s got numbers thing is a false statement

Ashuri.1387:

Drednyte.7601:

Fun fights in DR, Kains, and Ferg BL. I thought I’d die laughing when the DR group got to Kains Garrison…and in mapchat i see..“nobody has siege or supplies”….rofl

Some folks never learn eh…. well gratz on defending it from the nubs. They all left when they failed at taking it. Gave u a chance to PvDoor back ur map. We started to put up a little defense at Hills, but no supplies, no siege, and all of 7-8 of us there just wasnt gonna compete with the 20+ u had at the south gate. Was fun though.

Props to you all!

You should really work on your “props”. Idk if I should say thanks or what. You guys had so many at our garrison earlier. We were going at a 45 min+ defend there. Then yeah we did take our BL back because you guys just all up and left after we won at the garrison.

One big thing i noticed is all the nubs leave after a beating so we basicly lost everyone after the garrison attack. We were playing around too much and the longview team didnt do much. Hell they didnt even put up the treb they were supposed to. Plus the pugs never listened the whole time we were at garrison. They did random crap most the time we were attacking garrison but worked together when we were taking the rest of the map. This is going to be a big problem on the upper tier.

Drednyte.7601:

Fun fights in DR, Kains, and Ferg BL. I thought I’d die laughing when the DR group got to Kains Garrison…and in mapchat i see..“nobody has siege or supplies”….rofl

Some folks never learn eh…. well gratz on defending it from the nubs. They all left when they failed at taking it. Gave u a chance to PvDoor back ur map. We started to put up a little defense at Hills, but no supplies, no siege, and all of 7-8 of us there just wasnt gonna compete with the 20+ u had at the south gate. Was fun though.

Props to you all!

First thing I hear in TS after getting back from dinner was all come DR almost has the garrison. By this time you had the inner gate to 3/4th I think and we get a few extra numbers from our guild join . Then our commander decides that I was expendable and told me to set up portals right in the middle of your zerg . Naturally I was all to happy to run in solo into around 30 to 40 of you ( not sure but it felt like that much ) like an idiot and drop a portal so they could all port in as well. I can’t say how many times we did that trying to clear you out but it was a lot of fun . Though I was disappointed after most of you left as I was looking forward to some really fun sieges later on. O well I guess I had to be happy with our BL back. Anway if you see a mesmer from CnB run headlong into you guys in the future and drop a portal it is most likely me

had some fun with SoS this morning. killed maybe 20 down by SM southeast inner gate. thought they left the map so i decided to take some camps to retake the north. last thing i heard before the SoS legions steamrolled me was a message from Itsaraofgod: “They’re coming for you!”

Junkhaus.4301:

had some fun with SoS this morning. killed maybe 20 down by SM southeast inner gate. thought they left the map so i decided to take some camps to retake the north. last thing i heard before the SoS legions steamrolled me was a message from Itsaraofgod: “They’re coming for you!”

hm. (takes a look at screen shot)

Are you the one that’s wielding the legendary twilight?

If that’s you, congrats, you have become our most popular person in our TS for the night xD

Everyone’s like, IT’S THAT WP WITH THE TWILIGHT!

And you have just mass taunted everyone to chase after you xD

it was a fun train ride, as I have hinted few hours ago.

got myself another like … 60k karma for like … 4 hours?

fun as hell xD

Drednyte.7601:

@Etna
Not sure who was talking to you about transfering and joining PRO, wasnt me. I’ve talked to 2 guild leaders on both Ferg/Kain and we discussed them transfering to DR and/or joining PRO…neither was you or your guild. So dunno who was talking to you and please refrain from stating a “guild” want’s you when you’re talking to someone from a guild. Short of Phiz, the guild leader, talking to you about it, everyone else is a one v one conversation, not a guild v one. Understand?

I understand and it makes me abit disappointed. I thought PRO ran a tight organisation, especially since you’re only 8-10, but I guess not.

Anyway with Devona moving up and a dead server moving down we just don’t see the fun in staying in this tier and therefor are moving to EBay. I’d like to especially thank Envy, The Moobs, Chris [NP], TRx, CnB, KAIN, WAR, iSpy, AD, FIST, SoCo, Dark, RED, WP, EDGE and of course PRO for making this tier to what it’s been for us. I know I’m forgetting alot of guilds and individuals, these are just the ones that first comes in mind, so thank you all for the fun times.

Have fun and good luck in the future!

Righteo Etna, thank you for the well wishes and good luck in Ehmry Bay. I hope you all enjoy the wvw scene there.

Berkut.2837:

Righteo Etna, thank you for the well wishes and good luck in Ehmry Bay. I hope you all enjoy the wvw scene there.

Ditto, Good luck and most importantly have fun. I will miss firin muh ballistas at you all.

Etna.1634:

I’d like to especially thank Envy, The Moobs, Chris [NP], TRx, CnB, KAIN, WAR, iSpy, AD, FIST, SoCo, Dark, RED, WP, EDGE and of course PRO for making this tier to what it’s been for us. I know I’m forgetting alot of guilds and individuals, these are just the ones that first comes in mind, so thank you all for the fun times.

Have fun and good luck in the future!

Awe, we got left out