Guild Wars 2

Chaster Sharpshooter.3640:

See, change of perspective change a lot of things

Instead of …

“Urgh, Dr again? Leave already.”

Why not …

“Ahaha, pethtic DR, they claim they are so better organized, they even ‘play WvW based on careful calculations’ and are manipulating results to get them out of bracket, yet they were expecting to leave this tier last week, fail to do so. And now they are certain that they will definetly leave this week, let’s see that this does not happen, and this will be the greatest humiliation.”

At lesast the latter is my point of view – screwing up opponent’s carefully planned plan is alway much more fun than trying to accomplish own goals >:D

Hey can I borrow SoS for a night? They’d make excellent fleshy-foot-ramps

With your astronomical numbers and my diabolical intellect… imagine the possibilities!

Devona’s careful plan of actually attacking ferg failed this week, and PRO was a primary offender.

@Chaster
I’ll give some respect to you, you did admit to being a PvE guild and only capable of PvDooring in Wv3 with no care to if Kaineng needs help in Wv3 or not. Props to being at least honest about it.

But its a darn shame that a guild your size that could make a HUGE impact on your servers ranking if you only tried to help the server instead of focusing solely on “guild events”. I’ve ran into SoS many a time late night at Kains Hills, and we both know what the typical outcome was there when you showed with your 25+ SoS zerg vs 7-8 DR folks. (thanks for all the loot bags) Was sad when you stopped trying to take it back for most of the night and wouldnt hit it until the defenders had dwindled to 2-3.

Kains other shifts can still field some pretty decent numbers and they still have a lot of awesomely skilled players who want progress. How about making a guild event of “Dominating Wv3” cuz with your numbers you could probably take and hold maps for several hours. As it is right now though, you run the defenseless map PvDooring, then disappear soon as any resistance shows up.

Maybe I’ll contact some friends of mine on EU server and see if they’ll transfer over just to play with you during your primetime. =) Nasty bunch of folks…sorta like a Tier 2 version NoQQ/LARP/Envy small group strats tied up with PROs map strats. I’ll see if i can find some vids of em and post for u.

@Kain =( I still like you all, regardless of if you like me, PRO, or DR.

Draygo.9473:

Devona’s careful plan of actually attacking ferg failed this week, and PRO was a primary offender.

Again…check score. 9 weeks straight. Objective met, again.

PRO — well we go there in small numbers to have fun. Kain’s given up it seems so other than NPC fighting Ferg BL is the only place to find a fight. It is funny though when a very small group of DR folks go to Fergs, take a tower/camp…..and Ferg calls in a 10:1 ratio zerg to retake it. Thanks for the compliment =)

in small numbers? Were outmanned. And how many times do we have to tell you, we dont have a large force at all at 1am.
Its your guild mates that claimed you had to attack ferg to move up, and you havent. Youve taken nothing from them.

You also claimed you only play by http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA
going up 4 points with your numbers advantage over us and ferg is pretty terrible, you should be heading to T7 after this week but at this point I seriously doubt you can do it. You can take fergs BL, ive seen you do it.

No no no…their SEKRIT MASTER PLAN is to SLOWLY move up the Rankings. See…they think it’ll throw all the upper Tier Servers off their scent. This way when Devona -FINALLY- manages to surpass a dead Server, everyone will think it’s because the dead server went down, not that Devona went up. Then, when it’s least expected…the Devonas will rally and move to Tier 1 in no time at all!

Side-note: Hope Devona enjoyed attacking our Garrison for the last 5-6 hours. We sure enjoyed the loot bags you left us. There’s not much our 15-20 people could do against your 60+(Try it…just f’ing TRY to say you didn’t have that many. You freakin’ know you did so don’t lie to yourself. -.- Was randomly partying with some Devs and they admitted it, so no reason you can’t.)

You will always be able to take our crap…because between you and Fergs both attacking us, we simply can’t split our forces. Fergs are being smart and taking advantage of an opportunity to keep up with you and hold you back from going up a Tier. You guys are being silly and……..I’m not sure what you’re doing, but it certainly is benefiting my pocket book, so please keep it up!

Drednyte.7601:

@Chaster
I’ll give some respect to you, you did admit to being a PvE guild and only capable of PvDooring in Wv3 with no care to if Kaineng needs help in Wv3 or not. Props to being at least honest about it.

But its a darn shame that a guild your size that could make a HUGE impact on your servers ranking if you only tried to help the server instead of focusing solely on “guild events”. I’ve ran into SoS many a time late night at Kains Hills, and we both know what the typical outcome was there when you showed with your 25+ SoS zerg vs 7-8 DR folks. (thanks for all the loot bags) Was sad when you stopped trying to take it back for most of the night and wouldnt hit it until the defenders had dwindled to 2-3.

And you see, this is where it seperates us.

As a PvE guild, you play for fun. A group of people joining hand in hand, doing whatever they feel like, is freedom.

To us, in WvW, you play for glory, you fought hard for the server, every contribution you put in in WvW is reward back to everyone that’s on your server, and you feel good doing it. You could almost look at it as doing volunteer work, as you are not forced to play WvW. However, volunteer is volunteer only when they want to do it from the bottom of their heart.

Free people doesn’t like to be bounded.

Last time we did WvW as a guild event none stop for like two weeks, was actually making me LOSE players because they said that the constant WvW guild event was making them not able to find dungeon groups, as most of the players are doing WvW. And all the new comers are still not familiar with the system was tossed into a total chaotic war zone and just die here and there for no reason, was not neccessary … fun. (Almost like the tutorial of Planetside 2, those of you who played it, will know what I was talking about.)

Another problem with WvW is, as I stated earlier, you fought for the server, you feel great as you know the reward will benefit to the rest of the server, but, if you looked at it on the other side, it also means that people are EXPECTING you to do WvW because you are the biggest guild on the server, and you are SUPPOSED to fight in the name of Kaineng? That’s called pressure guys, and pressure was never fun. On top of that, as I have made in my previous threads, I’ve also pointed out that because of the timezone coverage, one we capped everything, and the moment we log out, we fall short. All we’ve contributed will just get “night capped” by the US/EU crew, what’s the point?

That’s why I’ve changed my attitude ever since War/iSpy left, now we are just back to the same old SoS in the time before LaZy was here, where we are just one little cheerful zerg that swarms everything in our path, and doing karma train.

Like all the people in Kaineng that knows me, I’m unpredictable. Because it was my guild decide what we should do tonight, after all, the “home server” is nothing but a place where “your friends” are. Never forget that. You are playing for your friends, not the server, after all, as long as the server can hold your friends, that server is your home server. May it be Kaineng, Devona’s Rest, or even Fergerson’s Crossing. It’s the community. Never forget.

Gasm Loves this tier…
Just thought I’d let you guys know that.
When we do move up,
You ALL will be missed <3

OhhGasm.9604:

Gasm Loves this tier…
Just thought I’d let you guys know that.
When we do move up,
You ALL will be missed <3

Don’t worry, we’ll make sure you didn’t go up >:D

Draygo.9473:

in small numbers? Were outmanned. And how many times do we have to tell you, we dont have a large force at all at 1am.
Its your guild mates that claimed you had to attack ferg to move up, and you havent. Youve taken nothing from them.

You also claimed you only play by http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA
going up 4 points with your numbers advantage over us and ferg is pretty terrible, you should be heading to T7 after this week but at this point I seriously doubt you can do it. You can take fergs BL, ive seen you do it.

Done. Kthx.

@Ferg
You like the Garrison ninja by DR. =)

@Kain
Great fight at your Garrison tonight. Was fun watching the massed up Kaineng’s fighting us at the eastern walls, while we backdoored the champion from watergate. Wish I could have read minds when it changed to DR’s possession, all those Kains still on the inner eastern wall were like WTF! lol Great fight though.

@the Kaineng [CNB] warrior fighting at north bay and arah’s camp. I was that elemental all in your group of Kains doing dmg. great fight between us 2, annoying was your other guildees though. couldnt get u spiked cuz of everyone there hitting me..rofl.

Drednyte.7601:

Here mate, just wanted to show you those “small numbers” you like to talk about. I’ll send you some math books. Btw, check the time stamps, they’re in PST btw. those kain numbers have been on the map all night. Now maybe you’re just not liked enough to get an invite to the Wv3 crowd, dunno. But just thought I’d show you group you keep claiming doesnt exist.

1: 10:34pm (1:34am est)
2: 1:59am (4:59am est)
3: 2:24am (5:24am est)(there’s about the same amount of kain jst left out of camera view)
4: 4:33am (7:33am est)(this one from yesterday)

…You so silly.
1: Those are Fergusons genius.
2: Great picture of us retaking our Keep…wonder how it was lost…? Oh right. From 60+ Devs. I had the Outmanned Buff when it was lost. In my own BL. Oh…and most of those people in that picture?…Were still there then, not our fault you got ditched by most of your people, at least you HAVE them to ditch you. -.-
3: Those look like the same ones in the 2nd picture…Seeing almost all the same Guilds and everything. And those Guilds(except SoS) are NOT that big.
4: …That’s in EB…and SoS. No one has ever denied SoS has absurd numbers, but they can’t really be counted in our tally because they are inconsistent WvWers.

Does it make a fly feel better when it is smashed by a fly-swatter to know it had no chance and was dealing with something much bigger than itself?

Does it make a person feel better about him/herself knowing that the fly did have a chance of escape?

Etna.1634:

Drednyte.7601:

@Etna
Not sure who was talking to you about transfering and joining PRO, wasnt me. I’ve talked to 2 guild leaders on both Ferg/Kain and we discussed them transfering to DR and/or joining PRO…neither was you or your guild. So dunno who was talking to you and please refrain from stating a “guild” want’s you when you’re talking to someone from a guild. Short of Phiz, the guild leader, talking to you about it, everyone else is a one v one conversation, not a guild v one. Understand?

I understand and it makes me abit disappointed. I thought PRO ran a tight organisation, especially since you’re only 8-10, but I guess not.

Anyway with Devona moving up and a dead server moving down we just don’t see the fun in staying in this tier and therefor are moving to EBay. I’d like to especially thank Envy, The Moobs, Chris [NP], TRx, CnB, KAIN, WAR, iSpy, AD, FIST, SoCo, Dark, RED, WP, EDGE and of course PRO for making this tier to what it’s been for us. I know I’m forgetting alot of guilds and individuals, these are just the ones that first comes in mind, so thank you all for the fun times.

Have fun and good luck in the future!

what…
this is really the most disappointing thing that’s ever happened to me regarding FC. sigh..
why do you have to leave? my precious etna, frickers, o bahamz etc…

OhhGasm.9604:

Does it make a fly feel better when it is smashed by a fly-swatter to know it had no chance and was dealing with something much bigger than itself?

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Psychophant.5682:

OhhGasm.9604:

Does it make a fly feel better when it is smashed by a fly-swatter to know it had no chance and was dealing with something much bigger than itself?

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Mind has been blown…… da kitten did I just read?

Khanswrath.1032:

Psychophant.5682:

OhhGasm.9604:

Does it make a fly feel better when it is smashed by a fly-swatter to know it had no chance and was dealing with something much bigger than itself?

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Mind has been blown…… da kitten did I just read?

yeah i think he had an aneurysm as he was typing

I got this..

I am almost certain that this question is in reference to a battle that took place near a sentinel

Psychophant.5682:

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Yes, I was once far enough that I was able to decide to use and even go want to do exactly look more like. We did need to stop in a time so we could begin to take the want from the do to do the do too. once that was finished we made the end of the line and we saw to look as well.

That should cover it.

Draygo.9473:

Devona’s careful plan of actually attacking ferg failed this week.

I tried to reply to this 3 times today. Each time ended up with me ranting about my home.

Ferg is no walk in the park. Stepping into ferg between 6-11 Eastern requires a few things IMO.

multiple coordinated groups
non zerg minded leaders in almost all the groups
people willing to die trying and willing to go die trying a few more times.
coordination, planning, and communication between the groups going in.

Last night I started feeling like my server is afraid to go and try Ferg. Sure there are a few people who will go out there and eat dirt attempting to try, but recently my home seems more interested in beating on the pile of dried out horse meat that is Kain. Sending in multiple zergs to beat on a staggering server that just recently lost a majority of it’s stronger guilds. This is not skill.

It’s inevitable that our server is going to move up, but what really bothers me is it seems to me my Server is satisfied with being sent up because another server fell behind. That’s far from a skill based victory. Our realm points have been creeping up, and we are still quite a distance from getting to 1k points. we would have needed to break more than that 4 weeks ago to move up. now, we can sit in our own complacency while waiting for a server to drop out of the tier above us and I think there will be people who chalk it up to progression. It’s not. to Talent. It’s not. To skill. It’s not.

I hopped multiple maps last night trying to get people to come to Ferg, the result was less than impressive. My server is interested in taking the path of least resistance. How will we be dealing with this when we are the path of least resistance? throw smaller zergs at at their zergs? XP trains? Bickering in house? lack of defense? or awesome tactics like; lets build a golom army and see if it can take out a door before the defenders take out the goloms?

Maybe there is a little coordination between some guilds, but as a whole I sometimes feel like my home has far too many chiefs who think the other chiefs are idiots and that they can just win this thing doing their own thing. Bleak comes to mind.

@Sumwun:

Bleak, indeed. Perhaps, when you do move up, if you move up, there will be incentive to change. If not, you’ll either join us back down here (when Ferg keeps moving up against us and ET) or you’ll be the one being stomped on up a tier until you do get your act together.

Ferg is no walk in the park, but devona is fully capable of attacking it and taking keeps from them, especially outside of primetime hours. Ive seen you do it before, last wednesday. Thing is you need to do that early in the week then keep the pressure on so ferg cant upgrade, that way your taking stuff in ferg while taking stuff in kain’s BL so you can get that point spread you need to move up.

10 points is doable by friday, but you gotta start pushing ferg.

I want you guys to not get crushed in the teir above us, considering next week its going to be pretty much a 1 v 1 with HoD in the middle if you do move up. But if you dont move up, you might actually lose your oppertunity to move up as the T7 matchup is going to change and it has a chance of evening out depending on how ET and HoD are recovering. If it evens out we might be stuck with you for multiple weeks, and honestly you are too big for this teir.

Interesting analysis Sumwun. I think that, somewhat, all servers have this issue on occasion. In the case of Devona’s Rest, you might not be seeing the development of more coordinated and tactical gameplay because there isn’t a perceived necessity to improve. What your currently doing is, for the most part, working. Until something comes and effectively forces Devona to improve, there will likely be little motivation to do so.

Maybe you will see some of the things you want to see occur if Devona’s Rest has a harder time in T7? Only one way to find out.

Note that what I said above isn’t necessarily true, it is just a potential thought that I have rambled :P.

Draygo.9473:

If it evens out we might be stuck with you for multiple weeks, and honestly you are too big for this teir.

Says something.

Heya Responders

I agree that when we are up a tier we will have our hand forced. And I am ok with getting beat on. Both K and DR suffered far worse, when we were fledgling servers with no population. I would like to move up, but not under the circumstances of us having better numbers than the server who just landed in our dust pile after an out of control tail spin from tiers above. that’t something to be ashamed of, especially if we could have done it legitimately.

I absolutely believe we can take Ferg. I just feel like so many are just perfectly happy not trying and reaping the benefits winning the “numbers game” The fact the my server decided that sending 3 commanders to attack a half green borderland for K while almost nobody is willing to stick their head into ferg forces me to wonder why.

Why do we need that much force in K? and Why isn’t some of that force being used to gain us points via Ferg map? I see lots of people talk a lot of talk up here, but so far all I have seen is NP shutting us down every time we walk into Ferg. Why is this a regular thing when we have the numbers and talent to get in there?

I know moving up will not be easy either way, but winning first place because the guy in first got sick is lame.

StormWolf.7645:

…You so silly.
1: Those are Fergusons genius.
2: Great picture of us retaking our Keep…wonder how it was lost…? Oh right. From 60+ Devs. I had the Outmanned Buff when it was lost. In my own BL. Oh…and most of those people in that picture?…Were still there then, not our fault you got ditched by most of your people, at least you HAVE them to ditch you. -.-
3: Those look like the same ones in the 2nd picture…Seeing almost all the same Guilds and everything. And those Guilds(except SoS) are NOT that big.
4: …That’s in EB…and SoS. No one has ever denied SoS has absurd numbers, but they can’t really be counted in our tally because they are inconsistent WvWers.

1 – you’re right, their ferg, posted because some folks there keep saying the same thing you say.
2 – 2 groups were in there mate, one dying at the keep, other trying to keep DR from returning from WP. again..no population after 1am…remember ur post?
3 – we ninja’d the keep right out from under your zerg and no, youre lil zerg got crushed first at south, then north…oh and whoever it was hope they liked the punt off the cliff from the ninja wall spot. Cuz i enjoyed the loot bag.
4 – Yea, its in EB…posted this because there were 2 zergs, one in your BL the other in EB. Again…imaginary poplulation that dont exists.

Anywhose – nuff said. Just because youre not part of them, see them, or online when they are…Ferg/Kain BOTH have numbers at night when they choose to have. So stop trolling untruths. latahs!

I emailed the pics to Anet so hopefully when they validate them i can get rich by proving that ghosts DO exists!

Berkut.2837:

Interesting analysis Sumwun. I think that, somewhat, all servers have this issue on occasion. In the case of Devona’s Rest, you might not be seeing the development of more coordinated and tactical gameplay because there isn’t a perceived necessity to improve. What your currently doing is, for the most part, working. Until something comes and effectively forces Devona to improve, there will likely be little motivation to do so.

Maybe you will see some of the things you want to see occur if Devona’s Rest has a harder time in T7? Only one way to find out.

Note that what I said above isn’t necessarily true, it is just a potential thought that I have rambled :P.

I think your spot on with that, we are not being forced to improve and are i guess comfortable doing what we currently do. By enlarge it seems to work, but it is a grind. If we move up then we will have to adapt, im pretty sure we will get a harsh lesson and pingpong between tier 7 and 8 for a while. How adaptable we are will decide if we can leave tier 8 permanently.
Beating on Kain seems to be in our DNA. I was a little embarressed today to see us camping the kain EB spawn with trebs, carts, ballistas whilst Ferg ran amok in our own BL. The people we had there in that spawn seige could have reversed the ferg attack alot sooner.
As i think was in last weeks thread. Its a shame we cant merge to one server cus i think all 3 have strengths that the other servers are missing. Together we would be a worthy foe of the higher tiers.

Yea, taking fergs garrison last night was long and hard, but fun. The thing I liked most was watching 3 different commanders attacking from 3 different sides. It was like a race to see who could get to the lords room first. It displayed to me strategy and coordination, you know, that thing that doesn’t exist in DR right? What was also funny this is what Kain and Fergs been screaming for, but none even commented about it when I logged on this morning. Was a good defense Fergs, props, and also to DR’s who participated.

And now to all Kain and Fergs commenting on tier 7. Why do you even care, you want us out of this matchup, we want to move up. Please, if you focused as much time on your own server as you do worrying about ours this would be a completely different conversation. Take that time and fix internal problems, try and recruit guilds from other dying servers, do whatever that helps your server, and stop worrying about DR so much. It is easy to attack us in the forums, and it sucks you keep losing guilds, but maybe that is the problem you should focus on, instead of bashing how bad DR is going to fail in next tier.

I love this tier actually, it was so much fun being on the low pop server with Kain. But with guilds leaving Kain and Ferg(instead of blaming guilds joining DR) it would be a nice challenge in the next tier. If we fail, or prevail no one knows yet, but acting like you do know is plain ignorance shining at its brightest. Now lets turn this forum into what it should be again, talking about good battles, giving props to one another, and enjoying “constructive” critism, not just targeting the server winning the matchups every week with any and ever little thing you can think of.

Just my opinion, keep up the good fights.

Brunn Gasm Devona’s Rest

Darek.1836:

Etna.1634:

Drednyte.7601:

@Etna
Not sure who was talking to you about transfering and joining PRO, wasnt me. I’ve talked to 2 guild leaders on both Ferg/Kain and we discussed them transfering to DR and/or joining PRO…neither was you or your guild. So dunno who was talking to you and please refrain from stating a “guild” want’s you when you’re talking to someone from a guild. Short of Phiz, the guild leader, talking to you about it, everyone else is a one v one conversation, not a guild v one. Understand?

I understand and it makes me abit disappointed. I thought PRO ran a tight organisation, especially since you’re only 8-10, but I guess not.

Anyway with Devona moving up and a dead server moving down we just don’t see the fun in staying in this tier and therefor are moving to EBay. I’d like to especially thank Envy, The Moobs, Chris [NP], TRx, CnB, KAIN, WAR, iSpy, AD, FIST, SoCo, Dark, RED, WP, EDGE and of course PRO for making this tier to what it’s been for us. I know I’m forgetting alot of guilds and individuals, these are just the ones that first comes in mind, so thank you all for the fun times.

Have fun and good luck in the future!

what…
this is really the most disappointing thing that’s ever happened to me regarding FC. sigh..
why do you have to leave? my precious etna, frickers, o bahamz etc…

This is literally so upsetting. LARP honestly had my favorite people in it. Just running with you guys was such an honour for me. I’ll always love ya, gl in EBay.

Calos.1350:

Yea, taking fergs garrison last night was long and hard, but fun. The thing I liked most was watching 3 different commanders attacking from 3 different sides. It was like a race to see who could get to the lords room first. It displayed to me strategy and coordination, you know, that thing that doesn’t exist in DR right? What was also funny this is what Kain and Fergs been screaming for, but none even commented about it when I logged on this morning. Was a good defense Fergs, props, and also to DR’s who participated.

Just my opinion, keep up the good fights.

Brunn Gasm Devona’s Rest

Lol. “Long and hard”? You had 2 alphas, 2 omegas, and 2 rams on every gate. By the time I could even get there, outer was down. We had time to build a cata and arrow cart by the time the next gate was down and at most 10 people there who arrived when I did. I also didn’t see anything but water gate and the south inner being hit. What are you talking about? And where was the coordination when 2 alpha golems took your fully upgraded garrison afterwards? Not to mention just about everything else. But no one wanted to comment on that…

Themanbat.3206:

Calos.1350:

Yea, taking fergs garrison last night was long and hard, but fun. The thing I liked most was watching 3 different commanders attacking from 3 different sides. It was like a race to see who could get to the lords room first. It displayed to me strategy and coordination, you know, that thing that doesn’t exist in DR right? What was also funny this is what Kain and Fergs been screaming for, but none even commented about it when I logged on this morning. Was a good defense Fergs, props, and also to DR’s who participated.

Just my opinion, keep up the good fights.

Brunn Gasm Devona’s Rest

Lol. “Long and hard”? You had 2 alphas, 2 omegas, and 2 rams on every gate. By the time I could even get there, outer was down. We had time to build a cata and arrow cart by the time the next gate was down and at most 10 people there who arrived when I did. I also didn’t see anything but water gate and the south inner being hit. What are you talking about? And where was the coordination when 2 alpha golems took your fully upgraded garrison afterwards? Not to mention just about everything else. But no one wanted to comment on that…

Sorry if I wasn’t as specific as you need, was saying the fight in fergs, to take garrison was long, 2 hours I was there. The point I was making was that it wasn’t 1 big zerg, hitting 1 gate. And also later in my comment I did point out people targeting DR with every little thing, and this is a prime example of what your are doing. I never said you weren’t coordinated taking our fully upgraded garrison, that is putting words in people’s mouths, I wasn’t there for that, so how could I comment on it?

If DR wanted to move up, you all would have this past week. Most people know that DR has been playing the numbers (the guys that know what to do to stay in the same place more or less). It’s obvious and anyone that denies it (that knows how to play them) is just bringing DR down into that place that nobody like to be in/at.

Just saying….

Anyways, HAI, how is everyone that I left behind weeks ago?

Calos.1350:

Sorry if I wasn’t as specific as you need, was saying the fight in fergs, to take garrison was long, 2 hours I was there. The point I was making was that it wasn’t 1 big zerg, hitting 1 gate. And also later in my comment I did point out people targeting DR with every little thing, and this is a prime example of what your are doing. I never said you weren’t coordinated taking our fully upgraded garrison, that is putting words in people’s mouths, I wasn’t there for that, so how could I comment on it?

I was referring to your coordination during that event. And, yes, you did have enough people to attack everywhere while we focused on Hills, the one place we knew we could keep, and still be able to rush through Garrison in about 3 minutes. You may have done so smartly (though whether or not it was on purpose, who knows), but against larger numbers it isn’t such a viable strategy, since they could actually fight you in the lord’s room, not to mention in more than one borderlands. And don’t cry about being picked on when I point out your fallacies.

Themanbat.3206:

Calos.1350:

Sorry if I wasn’t as specific as you need, was saying the fight in fergs, to take garrison was long, 2 hours I was there. The point I was making was that it wasn’t 1 big zerg, hitting 1 gate. And also later in my comment I did point out people targeting DR with every little thing, and this is a prime example of what your are doing. I never said you weren’t coordinated taking our fully upgraded garrison, that is putting words in people’s mouths, I wasn’t there for that, so how could I comment on it?

I was referring to your coordination during that event. And, yes, you did have enough people to attack everywhere while we focused on Hills, the one place we knew we could keep, and still be able to rush through Garrison in about 3 minutes. You may have done so smartly (though whether or not it was on purpose, who knows), but against larger numbers it isn’t such a viable strategy, since they could actually fight you in the lord’s room, not to mention in more than one borderlands. And don’t cry about being picked on when I point out your fallacies.

How is it crying saying don’t put words in people’s mouths? Its ok though, I logged after leaving your BL so I didn’t even know you took our garrison, but since you brought it up, good job

Calos.1350:

And now to all Kain and Fergs commenting on tier 7. Why do you even care, you want us out of this matchup, we want to move up.

No, I don’t want you guys out of this tier, at least there’s a force that will turn the towers/keep’s color while we were gone so we can recap and be rich again

Chaster Sharpshooter.3640:

Calos.1350:

And now to all Kain and Fergs commenting on tier 7. Why do you even care, you want us out of this matchup, we want to move up.

No, I don’t want you guys out of this tier, at least there’s a force that will turn the towers/keep’s color while we were gone so we can recap and be rich again

Yea, it makes it real easy to level up new toons.

Themanbat.3206:

Calos.1350:

Sorry if I wasn’t as specific as you need, was saying the fight in fergs, to take garrison was long, 2 hours I was there. The point I was making was that it wasn’t 1 big zerg, hitting 1 gate. And also later in my comment I did point out people targeting DR with every little thing, and this is a prime example of what your are doing. I never said you weren’t coordinated taking our fully upgraded garrison, that is putting words in people’s mouths, I wasn’t there for that, so how could I comment on it?

I was referring to your coordination during that event. And, yes, you did have enough people to attack everywhere while we focused on Hills, the one place we knew we could keep, and still be able to rush through Garrison in about 3 minutes. You may have done so smartly (though whether or not it was on purpose, who knows), but against larger numbers it isn’t such a viable strategy, since they could actually fight you in the lord’s room, not to mention in more than one borderlands. And don’t cry about being picked on when I point out your fallacies.

Look at this. Squeezing anything but disdain and backhanded compliments is next to impossible on this forum, so I say don’t even bother anymore. People are going to drivel things like “though whether or not it was on purpose, who knows” as if being snarky was clever, and ramble off about how their side is always right and your side “needs work”.

Even many of the posts giving props and shoutouts tend to have a defensive excuse covering a loss that’s often disparaging to the other side (it wasn’t our fault, you just cheesed us). It’s great when it’s in jest, but a lot of the time people post like they mean it, and I’m left wondering what kind of game people are actually playing here.

Have fun with the free wipe tonight guys, we won’t be defending. Enjoy T7, more than likely T6 with your numbers, haha.

PRO is all aboard the trashcan express tonight. I’m going to miss you guys when you move up. Most of you guys are probably going to want to replace your auto-attack key on your keyboard. I can imagine it’s seen better days.

ktith.6197:

If DR wanted to move up, you all would have this past week. Most people know that DR has been playing the numbers (the guys that know what to do to stay in the same place more or less). It’s obvious and anyone that denies it (that knows how to play them) is just bringing DR down into that place that nobody like to be in/at.

Just saying….

Anyways, HAI, how is everyone that I left behind weeks ago?

Mate, didnt u jump ship and leave your server to run upwards in tier? As you didnt have the dedication to help push your server upwards, your comments on this thread are pretty much worthless, in regards to what any of us 3 servers are or are not doing. Moving upwards in tiers doesnt equate to knowledgeable on strats, tactics, and/or server progression as you obviously defined them all as “lets just transfer upwards”.

Please keep your posts confined to your own tier bracket as that’s where you chose to call “home” now. Anyone you feel you miss, PM them.

Oh, before you comment: I was on HoD ranked #1 when the game came out, my guild moved to downward to JQ and we helped push it to #1. Then I moved way down to GoM, joined another guild because I met a few that played my time and were awesome fun to game with…and we moved DOWN again to try to push upward the bottom ranked server in the game. Well, thanks to a LOT of awesome gamers on DR originally when we got here we’ve managed to push it up 2 ranks and about to be a 3rd. We may or may not move up to T7 this week…but either way, we’re doing a fine job on a server that was literally the bottom of the heap.

PS: Merry Xmas =)

Skarloc.2569:

PRO is all aboard the trashcan express tonight. I’m going to miss you guys when you move up. Most of you guys are probably going to want to replace your auto-attack key on your keyboard. I can imagine it’s seen better days.

Know a good place i can buy a new “siege” key? mines darn near worn down to the electrical connection!

Ferg’s Bay walls almost down…
Army amassing outside to rush in…
aaaaand WvW update T_T

Drednyte.7601:

Skarloc.2569:

PRO is all aboard the trashcan express tonight. I’m going to miss you guys when you move up. Most of you guys are probably going to want to replace your auto-attack key on your keyboard. I can imagine it’s seen better days.

Know a good place i can buy a new “siege” key? mines darn near worn down to the electrical connection!

What you might want to consider is just binding siege to every key on your keyboard. Let’s be honest, it would allow you to roll your face on the keyboard while still managing to operate an arrow cart at full capacity. Oh, and it’s zerg friendly, which I know some of your guildies will be interested in!

Just hit me up in game and I’ll go through the process with you.

@Ferg/Kain

Whoever takes DR’s spot in T8 I almost feel sorry for them. These past 9 weeks all 3 of us have been giving each other some darn good fights. I’ve seen all 3 servers grow in teamwork/coordination/skill. Ton more defensive playing when required than 9 weeks back. The other server may be dropping down, but its not dropping into a bracket of “losers with no skills”. They’re going to get a very nasty surprise when they hit the field against you 2. If they’re thinking they were tier-whatever and stepping down to the bottom is going to equate to them owning the tier, oh man. I fully expect to see whichever server it is to hit dead last the first week. And i’d imagine a ton of QQs in the forums from them.

Hats off to all of your skills and guilds working together. We’ve had our forum fights and Wv3 fights….but I’m proud to say of all the tiers ive been in, all the fights ive bled in…fighting both of you have been by far the best of them all. Upper tiers may have more people, better communication/teamwork,, more hardcore Wv3rs. But none have the heart, dedication, and pride shown down here in T8.

PS: i still say if we combined the best of all 3 servers onto one…we’d be a force to be feared!

Skarloc.2569:

Just hit me up in game and I’ll go through the process with you.

Glad to see your a professional at it…shame it came too late.

Drednyte.7601:

Skarloc.2569:

Just hit me up in game and I’ll go through the process with you.

Glad to see your a professional at it…shame it came too late.

If it makes you feel any better, you guys really only have to continue being terrible by simply being logged on. I just thought I might help with the keyboard situation.

On behalf of myself and my guildies who were there, I thank NP and Envy for the 1v1 fights. We’d like to do some more before our server leaves this tier, there’s no people better than you guys to learn how to 1v1. Everyone on my end said they enjoyed the fights and are amazed at your skill. Again, thanks for taking time away from defending, you’ve shown us a lot of class tonight.

@Dred

Sillies. I was there before PRO came and “helped” push DR up….I don’t need a history lesson. I left DR due to reasons that were internal with GASM that have long since been dealt with. I see the pot calling the kettle black in terms of moving servers….it’s all a moot point. When I left DR I was guildless. I formed a new guild from scratch on Anvil Rock and ran into a craptastic alliance that was counter productive to the server and unfortunately for my guild we were public about it over individuals that were too afraid to say something publicly. Now we reside on Maguuma, our permanent home, where we will never ever move to another bracket or another server. We’ve run into many Devonians here that are still helpful as they were back when we were still on the server, and they don’t throw matches like DR has done at least twice in the past 6 weeks to stay down in T8. The messed up part of all this is, only the “big” guilds on DR have the ability to dictate this during matchups…

Fact is, DR could have moved up two weeks ago, easily, and DR has the numbers to easily hold thier ground in T7. I’ll be the first to admit that I was one of the several that gave PRO a hard time when they came to DR because of how you guys hopped so many servers (the guild that is) and because of the reputations that were presented about PRO from other servers opinions. For the most part you’ve done good things down on Devona’s Rest, but to passively claim that your guild is the reason that servers have been moving up while your present is pretentious at best. DR was already heading on the way up before PRO came…it just became more of a political power play after PRO arrived.

P.S. Stay Classy!

@ktith

I had to reply with my phone. PRO has changed servers 1 time. From GOM to DR. Also you claim that DR was on there way up before we got here. If so why did I have chats with people in LA that stated "Are you guys a WvW guild? “Yes”. So thats how we finally won! What do you mean finally won? “Oh we have never won a WvW match” “How long have you been on DR?” Since release he says…

He may have been lying but who knows. He stated the server never won a match until we showed up. Now I will not take all the credit because you just cant. There are 4 maps. But I can tell you we certainly helped.

Il be honest. DR sucks when they arnt zerging. Even then they suck sometimes cus pugs do random crap. We gona get kitten in tier up because the pugs are idiots.