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Posted by: TheAmpca.1753

TheAmpca.1753

Make your rank account bound. Make point allocation soul bound. Give the option to retrait points. Cost of resetting points will be 1 badge per rank you have. Give us a leadership trait line akin to the one in Planetside 2. (without spawn beacons ofc :P )

For Clarity:

Rank – Your total wvw rank, you will have 1 rank, and that is determined by how much you play wvw. All your characters will share this same rank. Lets say your rank is 50 for example purposes.

Soulbound allocation of points: Think of this like a characters wvw RANK build, each character has 50 points to spend because you are rank 50.

Retraiting your wvw rank build: It would cost 50 badges (because you are rank 50) to reset a characters wvw rank build so they could re-assign points.

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Posted by: sinzer.4018

sinzer.4018

So you’d split the ranks from the points or for each rank all your characters get a point to spend?

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Posted by: pupu.8619

pupu.8619

i guess he/she means if you have 20 ranks on one char and 30 on another you should have 50 (on your account) and can distribute 50 on each character at your pleasure (each character can spend 50 points in the traits he want).

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Posted by: TheAmpca.1753

TheAmpca.1753

So you’d split the ranks from the points or for each rank all your characters get a point to spend?

Good question let me clarify. Each rank you get gives you 1 traitable point for each character. So if I were to get to rank 230 on my thief and trait every point and then I made a new character and went in to WvW that character would also be rank 230 and have 230 rank points to allocate. Also if I were to say get another rank on my thief both classes would be rank 231 and both classes could allocate another point.

i guess he/she means if you have 20 ranks on one char and 30 on another you should have 50 (on your account) and can distribute 50 on each character at your pleasure (each character can spend 50 points in the traits he want).

Not exactly. I mean that you should not have 20 ranks on one character and 30 ranks on another. You should just have 50 ranks across all chacters like in sPvP

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Posted by: WhiteAndMilky.2514

WhiteAndMilky.2514

Make your rank account bound. Make point allocation soul bound. Give the option to retrait points. Cost of resetting points will be 1 badge per rank you have. Give us a leadership trait line akin to the one in Planetside 2.

^This. I don’t know what you are talking about in regard to planetside, but I agree on the other items. It’s incredibly annoying that all 16 of my characters (all wvw builds) must gain their own ranks. This pretty much means I don’t ever get to have the very nice end-of-the-line abilities, even despite constant dedication.

I will clarify for some that might not understand the OPs ideas. These are not my ideas.

Rank – Your total wvw rank, you will have 1 rank, and that is determined by how much you play wvw. All your characters will share this same rank. Lets say your rank is 50 for example purposes.

Soulbound allocation of points: Think of this like a characters wvw RANK build, each character has 50 points to spend because you are rank 50.

Retraiting your wvw rank build: It would cost 50 badges (because you are rank 50) to reset a characters wvw rank build so they could re-assign points.

Hope that helped

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Posted by: Aphix.9846

Aphix.9846

Agreed, this is how it should be, similar to sPvP ranks, there are no good reasons why the ranks are account bound, it is plain stupid and discourages people to make alts even more.
Fotm ranks, dyes, ascended items soulbound and takes a lot of time to get another set for an alt, same with legendaries etc etc, some account bound stuff are not that bad, what I do not get is wvw ranks. Especially why cant we reset the wvw abilities ? what harm could it possibly do ?

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Posted by: Zikory.6871

Zikory.6871

Retraiting your wvw rank build: It would cost 50 badges (because you are rank 50) to reset a characters wvw rank build so they could re-assign points.

Thats a awesome idea, would you think that is should allow you to retrait individual lines instead of a straight full reset? Just assuming that at some point people will be upwards to 400+ rank points, it would suck to have to spend 400 badges just to change one trait line (assuming you wanted to just change one)

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Posted by: Zikory.6871

Zikory.6871

Agreed, this is how it should be, similar to sPvP ranks, there are no good reasons why the ranks are account bound, it is plain stupid and discourages people to make alts even more.
Fotm ranks, dyes, ascended items soulbound and takes a lot of time to get another set for an alt, same with legendaries etc etc, some account bound stuff are not that bad, what I do not get is wvw ranks. Especially why cant we reset the wvw abilities ? what harm could it possibly do ?

I don’t think they want you to be able to retrait for individual engagements. Changing your mastery to fit what you need now. I think they want you to use the points to “gear” your toon for particular jobs. At least thats what I get from it.

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Posted by: TheAmpca.1753

TheAmpca.1753

Agreed, this is how it should be, similar to sPvP ranks, there are no good reasons why the ranks are account bound, it is plain stupid and discourages people to make alts even more.
Fotm ranks, dyes, ascended items soulbound and takes a lot of time to get another set for an alt, same with legendaries etc etc, some account bound stuff are not that bad, what I do not get is wvw ranks. Especially why cant we reset the wvw abilities ? what harm could it possibly do ?

I don’t think they want you to be able to retrait for individual engagements. Changing your mastery to fit what you need now. I think they want you to use the points to “gear” your toon for particular jobs. At least thats what I get from it.

You can only retrait outside of WvW or from spawn of WvW. Problem solved.

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Posted by: WhiteAndMilky.2514

WhiteAndMilky.2514

Retraiting your wvw rank build: It would cost 50 badges (because you are rank 50) to reset a characters wvw rank build so they could re-assign points.

Thats a awesome idea, would you think that is should allow you to retrait individual lines instead of a straight full reset? Just assuming that at some point people will be upwards to 400+ rank points, it would suck to have to spend 400 badges just to change one trait line (assuming you wanted to just change one)

Very good point to bring up. I like your idea. We could have a button next to each trait line “Reset trait line. Cost: ____ Badges of Honor”

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Posted by: Zikory.6871

Zikory.6871

Agreed, this is how it should be, similar to sPvP ranks, there are no good reasons why the ranks are account bound, it is plain stupid and discourages people to make alts even more.
Fotm ranks, dyes, ascended items soulbound and takes a lot of time to get another set for an alt, same with legendaries etc etc, some account bound stuff are not that bad, what I do not get is wvw ranks. Especially why cant we reset the wvw abilities ? what harm could it possibly do ?

I don’t think they want you to be able to retrait for individual engagements. Changing your mastery to fit what you need now. I think they want you to use the points to “gear” your toon for particular jobs. At least thats what I get from it.

You can only retrait outside of WvW or from spawn of WvW. Problem solved.

Out of WvW or have a long CD on retraiting maybe.

If I want to min/max engagements, I would trait for the one you’re in. Then when you win or loose swing by the respec npc, respec and wait for the next engagement to trait up again.

Though I do feel the idea of making it cost a badge per level (100 ranks = 100 badges) would be a good way to stop that as it would burn through badges very quickly at higher ranks.

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Posted by: WhiteAndMilky.2514

WhiteAndMilky.2514

Though I do feel Milkys idea of making it cost a badge per level (100 ranks = 100 badges) would be a good way to stop that as it would burn through badges very quickly at higher ranks.

It isn’t my idea, I was just clarifying the OPs post.

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Posted by: Zikory.6871

Zikory.6871

Though I do feel Milkys idea of making it cost a badge per level (100 ranks = 100 badges) would be a good way to stop that as it would burn through badges very quickly at higher ranks.

It isn’t my idea, I was just clarifying the OPs post.

Fixed in my post >.<

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Posted by: Snowreap.5174

Snowreap.5174

I can think of one change that would be needed to make this work.

right now ranks 2, 3 and 4 require 1000 wxp and rank 5 requires 2000 wxp. all ranks after 5 require 5000 wxp. this needs to be changed so that all ranks require 5000 wxp, otherwise people will just make level 1 alts and grind them up to rank 4 over and over in order to get lots of ranks on their account.

I assume that only the rank points themselves would be account-wide? but the rank chest reward would still be specific to the character that gained that rank?

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Posted by: TheAmpca.1753

TheAmpca.1753

I can think of one change that would be needed to make this work.

right now ranks 2, 3 and 4 require 1000 wxp and rank 5 requires 2000 wxp. all ranks after 5 require 5000 wxp. this needs to be changed so that all ranks require 5000 wxp, otherwise people will just make level 1 alts and grind them up to rank 4 over and over in order to get lots of ranks on their account.

I assume that only the rank points themselves would be account-wide? but the rank chest reward would still be specific to the character that gained that rank?

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You missed my point here. Your rank is account wide like in sPvP. If you made a new character they would not start at rank 1 they would start at your current rank.

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Posted by: Snowreap.5174

Snowreap.5174

umm, right. never mind then.

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Posted by: Avish.7938

Avish.7938

I agree with this.

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