Guild Wars 2

Hey Anet,
since we are desperate for some variety could we try something that doesn’t require any design modification and is a cheap way to change the game?

For 1 month:

1- Remove the EotM overflow servers
2- Add the EotM to the world map of WvW above or below EBG
Give the Overgrowth spawn to the server that had the less points the previous week and Badlands to the server that had the most points.
3- Add 1 DBL map again to the server with the most points the previous week, since it is a harder map to defend

For 1 month we would have 4 maps to play and a united population. Isn’t it at least worth a try?

I think it would be a better chance to save WvW than making polls about random things the players never asked for.

kitten that kittening bullkitten kitten EOTM.

Thank god for the kitten censorship.

Jerus.4350:

kitten that kittening bullkitten kitten EOTM.

Thank god for the kitten censorship.

Then you can go on any of the 3 other maps. I think giving a purpose to EotM wouldn’t be a bad thing.

This is a lot of work just for one month. For one thing, EotM is not a per-world map. All the green worlds go on overgrowth, all the red worlds on bad lands, etc.

There is also the issue that EotM was never designed to be a traditional WvW map and doesn’t really work in that format.

Sure ANet can do these kinds of experiments, but dev time is a precious resource. We could end up squandering all of it on one experiment after another and never make real progress.

If you want variety you can just got to EotM as it is right now. My WvW guild occasionally does this just to relieve the routine.

Mushin.3928:

This is a lot of work just for one month. For one thing, EotM is not a per-world map. All the green worlds go on overgrowth, all the red worlds on bad lands, etc.

There is also the issue that EotM was never designed to be a traditional WvW map and doesn’t really work in that format.

Sure ANet can do these kinds of experiments, but dev time is a precious resource. We could end up squandering all of it on one experiment after another and never make real progress.

If you want variety you can just got to EotM as it is right now. My WvW guild occasionally does this just to relieve the routine.

EotM was designed to be a WvW map, it’s only at the last minute that they decided to make it an overflow map to deal with queue times.
The vast majority of players voted for a borderland variety, I think we should try it now as the vote is fresh, and if it works then they can keep it that way until they have a third borderland map ready.
As I said they have to change the spawn point assignments depending on the server scores, but the rest is functional, they just have to make the EotM score count.

I assume you’re asking for 2 alpine home bl, 1 desert home bl, 1 eotm, 1 ebg?

While it might be a good idea to get the eotm population into the wvw side, just keep in mind that the sides are filled with players from all servers under those colors, when you break that back down to individual servers it may not be much gain.

Also most servers can barely get 2 maps full other than reset for 2 hours, how is adding eotm and it’s split population going to help?

Having the eotm population away from main wvw is not a problem of wvw, so I don’t really see see how it’s suppose to “save it”.

Rather they ask us polls on stuff like this than just implementing it.

PS. Eotm wasn’t designed as a full wvw map, hence why it doesn’t have structure upgrades, no caravans, no guild upgrades. It was meant for a quick place to play some simple battles while you wait in queue for the real maps.

They cannot run simoultaneous maps at the same time yet. They already said it in another thread.

/closethread

Xenesis.6389:

I assume you’re asking for 2 alpine home bl, 1 desert home bl, 1 eotm, 1 ebg?

While it might be a good idea to get the eotm population into the wvw side, just keep in mind that the sides are filled with players from all servers under those colors, when you break that back down to individual servers it may not be much gain.

Yes that’s exactly what I’m proposing for the maps. But for EotM it would be the server population not the overflow server-merging system.

Instead of having polls for months without the game changing at all I think we should have things to try, specially if they bring variety to a game mode that has seen better days.

Hexinx.1872:

They cannot run simoultaneous maps at the same time yet. They already said it in another thread.

Well they need to get to work then. I mean they should have anticipated this years ago when they started work on DBL.

They are hard at work on getting this functionality and it’s got an eta of end of august if that helps

Xillllix.3485:

Xenesis.6389:

I assume you’re asking for 2 alpine home bl, 1 desert home bl, 1 eotm, 1 ebg?

While it might be a good idea to get the eotm population into the wvw side, just keep in mind that the sides are filled with players from all servers under those colors, when you break that back down to individual servers it may not be much gain.

Yes that’s exactly what I’m proposing for the maps. But for EotM it would be the server population not the overflow server-merging system.

Instead of having polls for months without the game changing at all I think we should have things to try, specially if they bring variety to a game mode that has seen better days.

Yeah and you’re not going to get a whole lot from server populations over the mega server population filling eotm.

Just think about it, how many instances of eotm do you regularly see open? 1 map usually maaaaybe 2, now think how many are usually running on that map, if you’re lucky a zerg or blob of 50 people, now break that down to 24 servers… You would probably make eotm a lot worse and a ghost town trying to break 1 or 2 instance worth of players into 12 instances.

That isn’t going to save wvw, because eotm or it’s population is not really a problem for wvw, I mean half the population in there are still just players leveling in there or pve players doing dailies.

There needs to be a bigger solution to draw players into wvw.

Xillllix.3485:

Hexinx.1872:

They cannot run simoultaneous maps at the same time yet. They already said it in another thread.

Well they need to get to work then. I mean they should have anticipated this years ago when they started work on DBL.

Honestly, I’m pretty sure they thought that rotating BLs would win over simultaneos BLs.

EotM is to big to be put in the rotation imo. That and the fact that its available 24/7 if you like it that much, no need to add it. DBL, personally not a fan of but if it was only 1 map vs 3 and rotated out after a week I think it would be bearable.

Stop kittening with my game

Nuzt.7894:

EotM is to big to be put in the rotation imo. That and the fact that its available 24/7 if you like it that much, no need to add it. DBL, personally not a fan of but if it was only 1 map vs 3 and rotated out after a week I think it would be bearable.

But EotM was never used as an actual WvW map tho… It always been looked down as a karma-train map for pve players who wanted wxp. The results of trying it in the place of EBG for exemple are unexpected… No wait, they aren’t. WvW players just hate everything, they will just hate it like they hate everything else.

Jeknar.6184:

Nuzt.7894:

EotM is to big to be put in the rotation imo. That and the fact that its available 24/7 if you like it that much, no need to add it. DBL, personally not a fan of but if it was only 1 map vs 3 and rotated out after a week I think it would be bearable.

But EotM was never used as an actual WvW map tho… It always been looked down as a karma-train map for pve players who wanted wxp. The results of trying it in the place of EBG for exemple are unexpected… No wait, they aren’t. WvW players just hate everything, they will just hate it like they hate everything else.

The Truth.

I think it could be interesting seeing EotM as a ‘serious’ map since at the moment it’s mostly karma train food.

Jeknar.6184:

WvW players just hate everything, they will just hate it like they hate everything else.

After seeing some of the responses from the pve crew on stuff like GoB and crafting stations in WvW, I began to see the rants here from WvW folks as mild in comparison. Did you read what some of those guys wrote? Temper tantrums.

Also NO! to the OP. I hate EoTM maps.

Jayne.9251:

Jeknar.6184:

WvW players just hate everything, they will just hate it like they hate everything else.

After seeing some of the responses from the pve crew on stuff like GoB and crafting stations in WvW, I began to see the rants here from WvW folks as mild in comparison. Did you read what some of those guys wrote? Temper tantrums.

Also NO! to the OP. I hate EoTM maps.

lol ever tried to argue with them in the pve section? step out of line just once and they will report you, and the whites knights that are brick walls to talk to. Things gotta be their way and their way only.

Jayne.9251:

Jeknar.6184:

WvW players just hate everything, they will just hate it like they hate everything else.

After seeing some of the responses from the pve crew on stuff like GoB and crafting stations in WvW, I began to see the rants here from WvW folks as mild in comparison. Did you read what some of those guys wrote? Temper tantrums.

Also NO! to the OP. I hate EoTM maps.

PvE is srs bsns man… I always talk about lazy people not doing bosses pre events and other minor issues when I’m on pve and they go on a all out rage. It’s glorious.

But I still think WvW’ers have too much unjustified hate. Even more when our game mode is the same stale thing over the past years. I’d welcome anything to shake things up at this point.

Xenesis.6389:

Jayne.9251:

Jeknar.6184:

WvW players just hate everything, they will just hate it like they hate everything else.

After seeing some of the responses from the pve crew on stuff like GoB and crafting stations in WvW, I began to see the rants here from WvW folks as mild in comparison. Did you read what some of those guys wrote? Temper tantrums.

Also NO! to the OP. I hate EoTM maps.

lol ever tried to argue with them in the pve section? step out of line just once and they will report you, and the whites knights that are brick walls to talk to. Things gotta be their way and their way only.

The way things are going lately, it almost seems as if PvE folks are steering the direction of WvW.