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Posted by: The Blind Man.3642

The Blind Man.3642

Around 3:45 am Saturday morning a player on Yak’s Bend flew into SH and stole the orb from Ehmry Bay. I do want to let everyone know on Ehmry that the main force of Yak’s Bend at the time was not a part of this in any way.

Ragnarok Guild had organized a number of our server on our vent and proceeded to take back what we had lost earlier in the night. To our amazement the orb was hacked and flew off the map. Everyone reported the hacker as a “Botter” (there is no hacking option).

At this time I would like to extend an offer to Ehmry Bay to take back your Orb. We can hand it over in some way or another through player death. Pm me in game to talk about how we can do this please.

Again we really do apologize about this. This was never our intention and we wish to remove this stain from ourselves as soon as possible.

-The Blind Man

Yak’s Bend Commander

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Posted by: Deified.7520

Deified.7520

There’s hackers like this on every server during every match. While taking an honorable stance on it and reporting them, it isn’t going to solve the problem. We need to have a more powerful anti hacking system in place.

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Posted by: Spicyhash.7605

Spicyhash.7605

^ From what I can tell, hacking is not something ANet ever expected their players to do. You can tell by the lack of communication and action being taken against these people. There are obvious quick solutions like punkbuster(god, forbid), gameguard, yada yada. I refuse to do WvW this week because we are up against two major hacking servers (CD and ET).

CD

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Posted by: Deceite Sazen.5430

Deceite Sazen.5430

This piece of kitten garbage “Boss Kantot” aka Kennethzxc.2194 hacked at around the specified time 3:45am…. on our server; I need the email to send it to Anet. I am royally kittening kitten dude

We started taking our stuff back legitly and this kitten rolls in like hurrrrrrr i’m awesome hurrrrrr…… report this garbage kitten!

-Deceite

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Posted by: Jamaz.9837

Jamaz.9837

I spoke with the original poster Blind Man since I was the commander online at the time when this occurred. We cannot retrieve the orb again since our altar is broken and bugged, but we understand that it wasn’t an act from your server. Although I can’t say much for the sentiments of every Ehmry Bay Player, those that were with me understand the situation and don’t hold it against Yak’s Bend.

Here’s hoping we still have good sportsmanship the rest of the week and make it a good fight.

Ehmry Bay – The Shadowmoon

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Posted by: Mikaila.5942

Mikaila.5942

The Blind Man,

You have my respect as a person for what you have done in this post. I wish there were more people like you in this game as we had an issue twice tonight as well in the NPS/AR/BP match. Again hats off to you!

Gemma Madock of Defenders of Heroism [Hero]
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Posted by: Stormcycle.4208

Stormcycle.4208

Thats good sportsmanship Blindman, if more people do what you are doing and use integrity and give the orb back that way, then it will turn the tables and make what the hacker is doing pointless. What feeds his behavior is the server saying “oh well at least we have another orb” and doing nothing about it. I agree with Gemma that aside from ArenaNet doing something to fix the problem on their end, that we as a community need to fix the problem on ours as well.

I just wish Northern Shiverpeaks would realize this as a server and follow your example.

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Posted by: go to sleep.6187

go to sleep.6187

lol cd doesn’t hack ioj and et do obviously they have admitted to it. get your facts straight. cd is one of the few servers that has never hacked and probably never will, unlike you we have pride. have fun getting stomped this week ioj and et and thanks for the ez mode wvw week loooool

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Posted by: The Blind Man.3642

The Blind Man.3642

Again EB I apologize that we could not get your orb back to you due to the destruction of the altar. I am glad we could agree on a ceasefire for the night. I’m hoping that you guys got some morale back up and will continue to fight us in Yak’s Bend Borderlands. It was a good fight up until that point. Foghaven was quite the place of contention most of the night until that point

May the good fights continue!

-The Blind Man

Yak’s Bend Commander

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Posted by: Spongehunter.1743

Spongehunter.1743

Sorry blind man but your servers hacking is just half the issue. Magumma exploited our garrison in emery bay borderlands. The keep has been un attackable for 13hrs. EB WvW will most likely be dead for the next week. Many players have transfered or have quit. this is 2 weeks in a row we have been exploited on. But thank you for admitting your issue.

If you think the garrison issue isnt that bad do the math 4 ticks per hour x12hrs and counting x2 becuase someone is gaining that on us.

EB will be kaning very soon

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Posted by: Supersun.4603

Supersun.4603

Again EB I apologize that we could not get your orb back to you due to the destruction of the altar. I am glad we could agree on a ceasefire for the night. I’m hoping that you guys got some morale back up and will continue to fight us in Yak’s Bend Borderlands. It was a good fight up until that point. Foghaven was quite the place of contention most of the night until that point

May the good fights continue!

-The Blind Man

There was a ceasefire?

I couldn’t tell with with the 50 Yak’s storming our gates of our keep.

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Posted by: The Blind Man.3642

The Blind Man.3642

Supersun I apologize if our people attacked you after the majority of our main forces left. I asked them to not attack Red and explained what had happened. We didn’t leave anyone to police the situation, but in retrospect we should have.

Yak’s Bend Commander

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Posted by: Eanae.3178

Eanae.3178

I hope both servers get massive point penalties and the entire guilds of the involved are banned. Anet can’t let this keep going on with week long matches now…

If arena net does nothing about this and makes no statement, I’ll probably just stop playing the game.

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Posted by: cainejw.7142

cainejw.7142

Yak’s Bend, keeping it classy.

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Posted by: Lopez.7369

Lopez.7369

I hope both servers get massive point penalties and the entire guilds of the involved are banned. Anet can’t let this keep going on with week long matches now…

If arena net does nothing about this and makes no statement, I’ll probably just stop playing the game.

I’m not on your server, but I think I would too. It’s pretty clear the game needs better anti-hacking software, and ArenaNet needs to take a harder stance against hackers. The fact ArenaNet is mute on the issue, which has apparently been going on for weeks, is kind of scary.

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Posted by: Prothescar.7842

Prothescar.7842

So basically, Ehmry Bay has been taken out of the running completely by both servers using nefarious methods of competition. I sure hope ArenaNet does something about this, because an entire server being basically unable to participate in WvWvW for an entire week is complete and utter bullkitten.

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Posted by: Eanae.3178

Eanae.3178

WvW is the main reason to play this game and it’s main draw in feature. If it’s decided on day 1 by hackers and exploiters which Arena Net does nothing about, why bother playing? I know it sounds dramatic but why continue to fight when we’ll most likely be exploited again?

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Posted by: Lopez.7369

Lopez.7369

What you’re saying is not dramatic at all. If WvW can be ruined so easily, there’s no point to it.

The fact it’s been 12 hours without any word from ArenaNet is pretty bad. Most companies react instantly to such blatant, open, public exploiting, especially if it affects an entire server.

This situation should kitten off people on all servers, even Yak’s Bend and Maguuma.

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Posted by: PoiSonPeZ.4286

PoiSonPeZ.4286

I was on the map at the time this occurred. The person carrying the Orb appeared to be moving at normal speed through the water and into the south gate of the destination keep. The problem is how it was obtained. One major problem in this game is that a group of five players or less can get into a keep without being detected on the map.

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Posted by: Slamz.5376

Slamz.5376

Thanks for reporting it. It would be nice to see a developer response on blatant hackers (and why there is no way to report them).

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Posted by: The Blind Man.3642

The Blind Man.3642

Thanks for reporting it. It would be nice to see a developer response on blatant hackers (and why there is no way to report them).

Yea that’s what got all of us last night. You can report the guy, but not for hacking. It’s only Botting, Spamming, Verbal Abuse (and a couple others i cba to remember). You’d think by now they would have thrown in Hacking and Gold Selling as well.

Yak’s Bend Commander

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Posted by: Sisho.5431

Sisho.5431

There is a gold selling report button, but yeah they need a hacker report button.

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Posted by: Krustydog.1043

Krustydog.1043

Hackers ruin everything. We were fighting our kitten off to get the situation under control. Started taking some real estate. Log off for an hour then log back on and we’re losing by more than when we started. Then the snowball effect comes into play. less people logging in to wvw and it looks like the week is shot for us. I vote NO MERCY for hackers. Perma ban them and their ip’s. A handful of kitten wipes ruining it for over a million other players. And forget about 3 day bans and all that crap. The hackers in SWtoR just laughed at those and sure enough 3 days later were back and hacking again. It boils down to a decision by the dev’s, us (fair players) or them (hackers) because I personally will not put up with it for long. Love the game but am very intolerate of cheaters. If I have to cheat to win I pass. And if I have no chance of winning unless I cheat theres no point in playing the game.

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Posted by: gloombot.3519

gloombot.3519

Forgive me, because I’m pretty oblivious to how the bugging of keeps works because I’ve never sought to intentionally bug anything for an advantage.

…but how is the “keep” bugging done by Maguuma? As a Mag player I’m just curious as to the exact specifics, so that it can be determined that it was done “intentionally” through an exploit, and isn’t simply one of the 100s of bugs that exist in the game at the fault of ArenaNet, completely separate of Maguuma. Maybe it’s Maguuma that benefited from it, but that doesn’t necessarily imply that they intentionally did it for an advantage without knowing the mechanics of the “bugging out”.

I don’t condone hacking or exploits at all, and have witnessed at least 2 events against us (Maguuma) Saturday morning by Yak’s Bend. Namely, flying people who are Mesmers dropping portals for zergs to ninja cap. Hopefully, or most likely, it was the same hacker that abused the orb against Ebay.

But if the bugging of the keep is something that is done intentionally… then yeah that sucks. Sorry guys. So can someone explain? Cuz it’s hard to separate the real excuses from all the other ones Ebay keeps pumping out about not winning.

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Posted by: Tsuroyu.7956

Tsuroyu.7956

The Blind Man, you’re a class act. So from Ehmry Bay: respect. For what it’s worth, you shouldn’t feel it’s your responsibility to apologize on behalf of your server, just because a small group of jerks are ruining things. But thanks. It’s good to hear from someone that YB is a server full of cool players and good sports.

And I just want to respond to people who think EB is full of whiners and complainers. Try to see our situation from the point of view of serious EB players who just want to have a good, fair fight in WvW, and hopefully some fun doing it. Regardless of whether the things people are screaming about are actually happening (2-server alliances, hacking, night capping, etc etc), people are hearing that they’re happening, seeing that we’re losing, and leaving our server in droves. And morale is brutally hard to keep up, when at least some of things almost certainly are going on, at least occasionally. A lot of us are staying—we don’t care if we’re losing, and even like the idea of putting up a valiant effort as the underdogs. So please recognize that, while there always will be whiners, there are plenty of good gamers on EB who are getting kinda crapped on by circumstances, but are doing their best to keep their chins up. It is frankly becoming more and more of a bummer to play WvW on EB, so I mean… We don’t particularly want sympathy, but maybe a little respect for EB, instead of constant accusations that we’re a server full of babies, which is not an especially fun thing to hear when you’re already kinda getting squashed. There are a lot of us here fighting the good fight and doing our best.

I think The Blind Man’s got the right idea, and guys like him create the kind of friendly competitive atmosphere that we’d all like to play in. So again, a /salute to the OP, and I hope to meet you out there in WvW.

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Posted by: Supersun.4603

Supersun.4603

I was on the map at the time this occurred. The person carrying the Orb appeared to be moving at normal speed through the water and into the south gate of the destination keep. The problem is how it was obtained. One major problem in this game is that a group of five players or less can get into a keep without being detected on the map.

I can guarantee you that there is no way he possibly got into our keep through legitimate means. We were 100% sure that our keep was clear of mesmers, and we were very thorough at checking anytime swords popped up from the keep (and we caught a few people trying to ninja catapult their way in), someone was even at the keep at that time on a cannon and saw the orb icon in the air.