Guild Wars 2

I just wanted to say I really appreciate DB and Mag, you guys both fought hard and well. I really enjoyed it, and you never gave up. I wish you both the best of luck in future battles, a few more people and either one of you could have won this round.

On a side note, with Anet fixing some of the WvW problems (a bit) hopefully all servers will have a few less fair weather player issues. At FA, it seems like half our players are that.

^true (re: TC vs FA pop). Anecdotal but my impression is that our late night presence this week is nearly double what it was last week. These large pop shifts happen with every server (more evident in servers w/o queues as it effects numbers on the maps). Same thing is happening to TC this week….the map queues they had fighting us last week….are non existent this week. Strategy/organization help on the margins, but I would wager that population and coverage (timezone) have more to do with the tiers then anything else. This is also one of the causes of the large divides you see in scores “winning” servers numbers go up and “losing” servers go down. As the server pops stabilize and servers find their correct tiers, hopefully scores and matches will be more competitive (read:closer scoring) and thus keep the 80%er’s on the maps and fighting, especially as more 2v1’s occur with 2nd/3rd focusing on 1st slowing runaway matches. I’m sure anet can introduce further mechanics to help as well.

hey fa i was farming that botswarm you guys have in the lake and it is being protected and ressed by people from your guild gods you need to police yourself a litle better

Just wondering what are the q times for FA or DB, there is four us looking to pvp together but on the server we are on right now, it seems one or two of us can never get in and sit in Q all night while the other two are playing. We would like for all four us to be able to play together and not have half of us not able to.

The only queue I’ve ever experienced on FA has been in the initial rush on Friday nights.

Maguuma (and probably Dragonbrand) are pretty much the same. Sometimes we can queue up a single borderlands after that, but it’s never more than a few minutes.

Queue times for FA are very low. At the peak time during NA you may get a queue for our borderlands and EB but it’s still usually less than 30 minutes. At any other time, there’s no queue on any of the maps usually.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Keep fighting Dragonbrand! You guys are no longer projected to drop a tier for the upcoming match. Well, I guess if you want to drop a tier so you can win your next match, but you belong in this one.

No, please don’t drop a tier. I was pretty unexcited by Maguuma’s previous predicted matchup for next week.

Happy PvDay everybody. 100% zerg. 0% strategy. I hope you all enjoy it.

This bot group was on DB borderlands I think. You’re welcome FA.

I wish you all good luck without the orbs. Time to crack some skulls.

the kon player is a human who has been protecting the bots for a few hours maybe someone from fa can handle the botters on their server and in their guild, arenanet won’t

There seems to be a group of bots that consistently farms krait in the borderlands in this matchup. If you are from DB or Mag, keep scouting the lake to get your free badges.

after i wiped the last swarm the bots and player moved to another map and brought backup this time from the guild pro

these are the people protecting them if fa actualy wants to do something about it

hit them again was another pro guild player there defending is this guild full of gold sellers?

gidorah.4960:

after i wiped the last swarm the bots and player moved to another map and brought backup this time from the guild pro

Just to clarify, this is a different guild than the PRO that actually does a lot of wvw; their name is Protectorate Of Aspenwood or something but also with the PRO tag.

Water attunement (with at least 5 in water), armor of earth, whirlpool, profit.

There’s nothing FA can do about the bots and players defending them besides asking our opponents to wipe them out. They’ve been reported so it’s up to ArenaNet. Those KoN and fake PRO members can’t possibly be innocent and think they are helping legit players.

Score update. I think DB will take 2nd for sure at this point. The reset will cut off Maguuma’s primetime. They won’t be able to catch up in time. This means DH v Mag v DB will be the next match for you guys.

saiyr.3071:

Maguuma (and probably Dragonbrand) are pretty much the same. Sometimes we can queue up a single borderlands after that, but it’s never more than a few minutes.

Dragonbrand had tiny queues on Friday night. I was let in maybe 10-15 minutes after I hopped in queue very soon after reset. After that, I haven’t seen a single queue even in EST primetime, and even for EB.

You guys paint the map red every morning though, so there’s that. Almost seems like your prime time isn’t even US prime time.

saiyr.3071:

You guys paint the map red every morning though, so there’s that. Almost seems like your prime time isn’t even US prime time.

It ain’t. It’s the Oceanic/Asian guilds in the morning in the US.

Great match this week Guys and Gals good fights all the way around. but yeah FA you guys need to send someone to the lake just south of the island and report those botters i lead a zerg over to report them but as soon as they die i cant report them. So I think you guys in fa can report them easier.

I don’t know what Maguuma does in the day. They attack something, don’t defend it at all, then switch maps. :s I told them that west keep inner wall was down, and they just needed to break the outer gate, but they up and left maps when they lost garrison. Our morning crew is 15 players at the most, and none of them can read/fight/or defend.

If DB has such a Daytime presence, and never queues more than 1 map at US primetime, perhaps they should come join the fun on Mag.

katniss.6735:

I don’t know what Maguuma does in the day. They attack something, don’t defend it at all, then switch maps. :s I told them that west keep inner wall was down, and they just needed to break the outer gate, but they up and left maps when they lost garrison. Our morning crew is 15 players at the most, and none of them can read/fight/or defend.

It’s been a pretty common tactic for Maguuma this week whenever outnumbered. If it helps evade the zerg, then all the better. I just hope we collectively realize that the karma trains will have to stop for the next match and we’ll have to fight instead of doing PvD.

katniss.6735:

I don’t know what Maguuma does in the day. They attack something, don’t defend it at all, then switch maps. :s I told them that west keep inner wall was down, and they just needed to break the outer gate, but they up and left maps when they lost garrison. Our morning crew is 15 players at the most, and none of them can read/fight/or defend.

Your not the only server with questionable strategy at times. Last night (off peak) in one of the BLs we had the tower outside our rez and a couple supply camps (maybe 15-20 of us on the map total – no commanders). Lost a camp and could predict that our tower was going to get hit….called it out and 3 players showed up to defend (versus maybe 20ish). We had more defensive siege then players to operate. Checked map and note that there is crossed swords at the tower opposite the other rez (literally next tower over). Call out again for some help defending…nothing. As we are losing our only tower I bail and bomb over to the other tower our team is attacking to see what is going on….find 8-10 auto-attacking the gate. The 20 that took our only tower then come over and wipe this group…./sigh

I find that pug groups often over extend, and rarely defend or bother to read chat. The zerg up and pvdoor the map is how many seem to want to play…..and in fact people map hop to achieve this in order to avoid the inconvenience of having to fight other players (unless you’ve got the bigger zerg). I guess at the end of the day though people can play however they want /shrug.

RE: Bots – I’ve personally reported that group multiple times.

IMO, map hopping to avoid fighting is a valid tactic if you care about points in the slightest. It’s boring as hell unless you’re messing around with friends (see every screenshot I’ve posted in this thread), but it’s still necessary. Every night this week Aspenwood just takes over almost everything, but they just go away after awhile. Not switching maps to cap means free points for Aspenwood and a lot less karma-train for us. Now, if you’re not map hopping and not defending like in the above situation, obviously that’s not good. I don’t think you can blame commanderless zergs for running around randomly though. Strategy by committee is a pretty terrible thing.

saiyr.3071:

IMO, map hopping to avoid fighting is a valid tactic if you care about points in the slightest. It’s boring as hell unless you’re messing around with friends (see every screenshot I’ve posted in this thread), but it’s still necessary. Every night this week Aspenwood just takes over almost everything, but they just go away after awhile. Not switching maps to cap means free points for Aspenwood and a lot less karma-train for us. Now, if you’re not map hopping and not defending like in the above situation, obviously that’s not good. I don’t think you can blame commanderless zergs for running around randomly though. Strategy by committee is a pretty terrible thing.

wrt points – you often just end up trading points though….your not defending so as your taking stuff on one map, your losing stuff on another (or in my example losing stuff literally next door).

re:karma – this is prolly the major attraction to PvD. You do get decent karma (and badges) from defending though. People seem to generally not like defending …offence is more “fun”…perhaps rewards need to be tweaked. I do find defending against superior numbers with some strategy fun – but I don’t really play with a reward maximization mentality (other then fun) in mind.

Seemingly, seeking to PvP in a PvP zone is atypical :P (joke)

Man, I’d love to see two groups of bots from different servers deciding to the farm the same area. They’d actually be PVPing each other.

Yes, I guess trading vs not is a case-by-case issue and needs to be evaluated before hopping away to other places. In my experience we tend to gain much more than we lose for various reasons that I won’t get into.

Mag almost never PvD’s. We’re known for hunkering down and defending a single location for days on end… Every once in a while though, running around doing nothing but banging your face against an undefended tower is exactly what the doctor ordered. Yesterday was that day.

We’ve PvD’d pretty much every night since the weekend to take FA territory after their prime time ends. I am not sure how well it will work in the next matchup since I only have a vague picture of Darkhaven’s wide coverage.

Wow, I predicted DB would get 2nd preventing them from getting dropped from this tier, but now they’ve managed to pull ahead enough that they will be switching places with Maguuma as the blue server for next match. This can still change as there’s only a one point difference in the projected ratings, but still, good job DB!

I don’t mind falling a tier to fight lower populated servers. I was getting tired staying up late trying to “win” in WvWvW. There’s not much to gain for going up tiers as a medium pop server except a lot of sleepless nights.

Get serious, please.
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