Guild Wars 2

I haven’t seen a post yet for updating the scores or anything like that for this match up so I thought I’d get one started. Let’s try to keep this in good spirits and go less on the trolling and more on the end of giving servers and guilds you see props for objectives well done.

Score as of 9:57AM EST 10/08/12:
FA: 95,066 (250)
SOS: 89,626 (435)
MA: 49,175 (+10)

So far this match up has been really fun and I look forward to the weeks back and forth with the night crew of SOS

Maguuma…don’t lose hope! Come out strong during the week and give SOS and FA some trouble. Nothing is better than having an underdog creep up on you and then kick the crap out of you.

I’ve had tons of fun in this matchup so far. Not sure what happened today, but we’ve swept most of the map.

Pretty sure SoS is gonna come take it back tonight though, so tommorow should be fun.

Also, where are all my GOON’s at today? I miss playing with you guys+[DONG] in GW1.

Fort Aspenwood vs NPCs currently

(Also Mesmer teleport glitched our Durios Gulch while we were defending it, teleported 20+ onto the wall at Durios while nothing was breached)

Hard to play Maguuma vs Fort Aspenwood (Because SoS is asleep right now) while FA is exploiting what they can easily take with their numbers by playing ethically.

This has killed morale in Maguuma, and I have been dedicating this past 7days~/week to leading Maguuma Eternal Battlegrounds and only yesterday and today we have been demoralized this bad. Mostly due to SoS stealth capturing with the small group that hacked our Fort’s/Keep before last nights patch (Fully upgraded mind you/Patch did not happen for hours, in those hours, we lost our Forts that we paid so dearly to capture/hold/upgrade.)

Then today, Durios teleport exploit had 10+ of ours leave because they do not feel there is a reason to play. We only had 30-35 in Eternal Battleground at best before that.

FA zerg during the day. SoS zerg during the night. They just take turn against Maguuma. Add in a few exploit here and there to make it all easier for them.

Yea, I’m not sure where everyone from Maguuma went. I guess it’s just a morale issue. x.x

Me, to myself: “We don’t own anything in SoS or FA borderlands? LET’S TAKE STUFF! YEA!”
*goes into FA borderlands *
Me, in Team chat:“I’m gonna’ take a supply camp! WHO’S WITH ME?!”
*gets one response *

Eventually, I had 3 people in a party and 2 people tagging along. We almost took Bluebriar… but a group of FA came in just as we got the door down. Too bad, too, we got the Lord down so much I couldn’t see his health bar — then we wiped. ):

If we had 2 more people we would’ve captured it, but it 6 just wasn’t enough. Moral of the story: MAGUUMANS (and players from other servers who are the underdogs now), GET INTO WvW! You still have a chance!

ViperWire.4261:

(Also Mesmer teleport glitched our Durios Gulch while we were defending it, teleported 20+ onto the wall at Durios while nothing was breached)

Curious and wondering since I don’t know a lot about the different hacks/exploits being used, was it a FA invader using this exploit against you guys? And if so did you happen to catch a guild tag?

I’d like to look into it if you happened to see who it was. I feel that exploiting and hacking are wrong in any setting but even more so if someone is in the lead and picking on the server who’s struggling to even get it’s people interested in going in to fight.

In our battle with Yak and Ebay, Magumma did well because all three are fighting each other. In this matchup, it’s basically 1v1 24/7. Maguuma versus FA during the day and Magumma versus SoS during the night. That’s why FA and SoS are close in point and Magumma is last.

Looks like the free server transfers are kicking in, it’s sad because though the weekend match was actually a lot of fun. I really hope they remove them soon.

Weekend has been a lot of fun. I’m on FA and I think more than anything we just have more coverage during the day than the other servers (with SoS having a lot more overnight coverage).

Maguuma fighting has been very tough on their borderlands but just looks like they don’t have the population to carry it into either the FA or SoS borderland. Same thing with the SoS borderland, they’re pretty tough there but non-existent on the other borderlands.

Hope they keep fighting during the week.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Sea-of-Sorrows-hacks-yesterday-Fort-Aspenwood-exploits-today

Screenshots that I took, guild tags/names should be there

Great matchup so far guys. Lets keep it going!

This has been a strange matchup. I feel like FA spends most of the day fighting maguuma, and then sea of sorrows rolls in and takes everything at night :p the points are pretty close but the two leaders aren’t really fighting each other because they aren’t on.

Maguuma seems outnumbered but has been putting up a fight. I think if we combined all three servers we’d have a pretty mean team with good all around coverage!

There have been TONS of orb hacks and exploits this match. I’m not going to bother trying to tar entire servers with the hacking brush, just that we have personally watched our orbs get hacked multiple times.

There are not sufficient reporting tools for dealing with orb hackers: the name of whoever picks up the orb needs to be broadcast so that you can report these flying supermen. I know both sea of sorrows and maguuma are full of quality players who would deplore anyone on their server who is hacking – but we just aren’t able to find out who on their server is hacking.

I will also say that, as Viperwire has said, that when there are hacks and exploits flying thick and fast, the team that is already behind becomes even more demoralized. FA was in this situation last matchup. It’s really hard to get people to come out and fight and give their all when they are losing and can have all their hard work undone by a few hackers.

Arena.net really needs to crack down on this stuff.

As far as the mesmer thing goes, barring video of them jumping up where they shouldn’t you’ll never be able to tell if it was an exploit or if they just hid inside and then portalled in friends later (which as far as I know is completely legitimate)

Im one of those maguuma people that been fighting 24/7 it feels like… Yah its been tough Fighting first the SOS swarms at theyr time and then fighting the Zergs of Fortaspen. The mumble helps but at this point we pretty much given up any presence in 2/3 Borderlands we barely got enough people for 1 and we rarely dont even have that. Theres been Queues as far as i know 3 hours total for Maguuma and thats been only for 1 Borderland while evrything else emty…. Its quite sad but we will still keep on fighting even if its a lost cause at this point.

ViperWire.4261:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Sea-of-Sorrows-hacks-yesterday-Fort-Aspenwood-exploits-today

Screenshots that I took, guild tags/names should be there

That’s us!
No exploit, one of our Mesmer has a little hidden spot in this area, got there, waited for you to take it then made a portal.
First time the zerg followed, second time (this screenshot) we were only 4 or 5 at first and he had to redo the portal multiple times for the force at the ram to understand what the kitten was going on.

He showed us this hiding spot so we can check it each time we go there.

ArkhKGB.4086:

ViperWire.4261:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Sea-of-Sorrows-hacks-yesterday-Fort-Aspenwood-exploits-today

Screenshots that I took, guild tags/names should be there

That’s us!
No exploit, one of our Mesmer has a little hidden spot in this area, got there, waited for you to take it then made a portal.
First time the zerg followed, second time (this screenshot) we were only 4 or 5 at first and he had to redo the portal multiple times for the force at the ram to understand what the kitten was going on.

He showed us this hiding spot so we can check it each time we go there.

Sounds like you are saying “Anet put this tiny little hidden spot that you can avoid any normal entry point and not have to siege a Fort in order to take it. This is just a secret/hidden spot, not an exploit!”

That is what I hear at least.

learn to spam target after you capture a keep/tower, you can target without LoS. catches mesmers hiding behind to portal groups back in.

ArkhKGB.4086:

ViperWire.4261:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Sea-of-Sorrows-hacks-yesterday-Fort-Aspenwood-exploits-today

Screenshots that I took, guild tags/names should be there

That’s us!
No exploit, one of our Mesmer has a little hidden spot in this area, got there, waited for you to take it then made a portal.
First time the zerg followed, second time (this screenshot) we were only 4 or 5 at first and he had to redo the portal multiple times for the force at the ram to understand what the kitten was going on.

He showed us this hiding spot so we can check it each time we go there.

Oh the classic story……

As an FA person I feel disgusted. I wonder if thats why we rule the entire map today.

I have been leading some early morning groups in Maguuma Borderlands and we have a pretty solid group of guys that from time to time may get a little discouraged but are not demoralized too much. We have had some good battles and can hold our own vs FA for a long time. I wish SoS had more day presence so FA had a little more opposition.

Our server is fighting strong and over the week we should learn a lot. If you are from Maguuma come out and lend a hand we are having a blast.

As the only person leading Maguuma Eternal Battlegrounds (That I know of…. ; most/the rest are in Borderlands) I can honestly say…..Feelsbatman…

(Had to edit for honesty, we have a small hand of people [1-5 at best] who are actively helping/leading in my absence and even while I am on; I cannot stress how much that has helped. Without that we would have been rolled over the weekend)

ViperWire.4261:

ArkhKGB.4086:

ViperWire.4261:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Sea-of-Sorrows-hacks-yesterday-Fort-Aspenwood-exploits-today

Screenshots that I took, guild tags/names should be there

That’s us!
No exploit, one of our Mesmer has a little hidden spot in this area, got there, waited for you to take it then made a portal.
First time the zerg followed, second time (this screenshot) we were only 4 or 5 at first and he had to redo the portal multiple times for the force at the ram to understand what the kitten was going on.

He showed us this hiding spot so we can check it each time we go there.

Sounds like you are saying “Anet put this tiny little hidden spot that you can avoid any normal entry point and not have to siege a Fort in order to take it. This is just a secret/hidden spot, not an exploit!”

That is what I hear at least.

Sounds like you want me to tell you where it is.
And yeah, if you don’t sweep up your new possession, don’t be surprised you lose it fast. We learned it the hard way during last match-up.

I’d call bullkitten if it happened like 30mn after losing the tower (what kind of player who’d wait this long) but if you have portalers like 5mn after taking a tower or keep the chance of an exploit are slimmer.

ArkhKGB.4086:

ViperWire.4261:

ArkhKGB.4086:

ViperWire.4261:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Sea-of-Sorrows-hacks-yesterday-Fort-Aspenwood-exploits-today

Screenshots that I took, guild tags/names should be there

That’s us!
No exploit, one of our Mesmer has a little hidden spot in this area, got there, waited for you to take it then made a portal.
First time the zerg followed, second time (this screenshot) we were only 4 or 5 at first and he had to redo the portal multiple times for the force at the ram to understand what the kitten was going on.

He showed us this hiding spot so we can check it each time we go there.

Sounds like you are saying “Anet put this tiny little hidden spot that you can avoid any normal entry point and not have to siege a Fort in order to take it. This is just a secret/hidden spot, not an exploit!”

That is what I hear at least.

Sounds like you want me to tell you where it is.
And yeah, if you don’t sweep up your new possession, don’t be surprised you lose it fast. We learned it the hard way during last match-up.

I’d call bullkitten if it happened like 30mn after losing the tower (what kind of player who’d wait this long) but if you have portalers like 5mn after taking a tower or keep the chance of an exploit are slimmer.

Tell us where it is… please? /cutepuppydogface

Maguuma got boosted up 3 ranks after the Ehmry Bay/Yaks Bend/Maguuma matchup, while Fort Aspenwood got knocked down 3 from theirs, so I think we got promoted into a match that’s more difficult than we’re used to, and can’t just brute-force any more. Sea of Sorrows and Fort Aspenwood definitely don’t get routed as easily as Ehrmy Bay and Yaks Bend did.

@Shintai (since I can’t get my quote to freaking work)

I think one of the main reasons we are doing much better this match up is that we have gained at least 3 guilds I know for a fact who came from a hardcore W3 setting. It does seem that we have a much stronger day presence as well this week (maybe due to the strong weekend fighting and waking up this morning we didn’t see ourselves 20k down again) and I ask/hope all the servers as a whole aim to keep things kosher and legit.

Viper, I will chat with the few guilds in there I recognize and check to be sure (of course I can’t be 100% certain) that people hold to good ethics to help ensure a good fight for everyone.

I’m on FA and had some good fights yesterday in Mag borderlands. And I third the notion that it would be better if SoS and FA had more similar peak times, but what can ya do?

GG guys, was fun during the weekend, server transfers at their finest.

The ironic thing is FA just got out of a match where we got TRASHED (3rd place) by the server that was in third place getting a ton of transfers haflway through the match and leaping to first

Things should settle down a bit once all the transfers are done.

These transfers are generally planned well in advance, so I don’t blame the guilds doing the transferring at all. Glad to have the ones that transferred to FA onboard

No one that I know of transferred off of SoS. Its just we don’t have anyone online right now. Our aussie army is counting sheeps

Being on Maguuma what’s driving me insane isn’t the night capping or the superior tactics (like FA guilds patrolling roads to stomp black ops and stragglers) it’s the exploiters and botters. When people are flying into our keeps or garrison to steal the orb or we have a 15 minute queue to find that there are 30 botters farming krait it becomes a serious pain in the kitten.

EDIT: I do want to add if anyone from our server is exploiting they should be banned too. I don’t mind losing to a superior force, I just hate losing to cheaters.

Botters: Maguuma’s got a lot of botters either sitting at spawn or clumped up in the lake, denying us the outmanned buff a lot of the time.

Hackers: We’ve had hackers taking the orbs or destroying the alters as well as flying into our towers to cap them, making many of us question if it’s even worth upgrading.

Outnumbered: I’ve played for 12+ hour stretches during the weekend where night time is dominated by Sea of Sorrows, followed by a brief lull where we would start being able to take over, immediately replaced by large numbers of Fort Aspenwood. On top of this Sea of Sorrows and Fort Aspenwood have the population to fill up all four maps during their respective prime-times, whereas Maguuma can only ever really fill up maybe two maps.

We have a group of players trying to do our best, but the general morale of Maguuma has officially been crushed, hence the complete domination of Fort Aspenwood today.

It’s tough to put down gold to defend when you got hackers on the other side that makes those defense obsolete.

SoSer got to say: after 10am EST US time(1pm Australian time) we all need to sleep.

we r not able to fill any map.

and do whatever you guys like, we dont care, most of us play only 4-5 hrs everyday, all between 3am-10am EST US time. coz we just off work and before bed.

we need NA players to fill these maps.

Fighting with SoS is pretty annoying. Like the rest of the Maguumans have said, our night guys get rolled due to it being SoS prime time, then when US prime time pops up its just us and FA who have a bigger population than us. That said though we’ve had some great fights and we don’t lay down for long, its just the whole 3 server system goes out the window when one of the servers doesn’t show up due to being asleep.

For those who hate queues, try switching to Maguuma for a day. Worst case you hate it and you switch back tomorrow. No real loss. We have good organized leadership in WvW and just need a few more numbers to man all the borderlands.

I dare you to follow JerkJerk for a day in WvW and tell me you don’t enjoy it. We do fine going at it with FA when we have relatively even numbers. Hop on Maguuma and see for yourself.

Well FA cant Hold Panglass Thats Maguuma Territory from now on

Ouch.. I log out for the night and morning and just log on to get ready for my usual runs but there’s nothing to do.. Transfers have flooded in

I don’t think transfers are to blame in this case, FA and SoS play at opposing hours and Maguuma has largely given up.

Listen, noone is transferring to your server. We play at different hours if you have not noticed yet.

Slyther.1297:

I don’t think transfers are to blame in this case, FA and SoS play at opposing hours and Maguuma has largely given up.

I would agree, I keep running into the same players on the battlefield and many of them aren’t goons or SFD, it’s just disheartening when we can’t fight due to botters and hackers.

This match kicked off to a great start over the weekend with some great fights and close scores.

Even last night (Australian time) SoS had almost every borderland map and FA was fighting hard in EB to retain SMC. I logged off after fighting hard to keep SMC in our hands but expected to see it in SoS hands when I got up this morning.

Instead, when I got up this morning I found FA now holds almost 100% of the maps. It’s like SoS and Maguuma just gave up overnight. It’s really disappointing as the match started out so well on the weekend.

Like others have said, we have a match where two servers have opposite peak times and a third server that has to contend constantly with whichever server is currently in its peak period. I’m a bit disappointed as we still have 4 days left in this match and it’s looking like it’s pretty much over already.

I would just wish that the Maguuma ranger(now reported) wouldnt have hacked his way up to me and killed me.

Else from what I have seen its been a relatively exploitfree evening.

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Listen, noone is transferring to your server. We play at different hours if you have not noticed yet.

I don’t think they understand people play from different countries and time zones yet.

Every one must be online playing when they do and any one playing whilst they’re asleep are dirty cheaters.

I can’t believe there are people brain dead enough to realize this isn’t what happens every week. It’s really pretty kitten simple, one server gets a slight lead during the weekend after reset, everybody then transfers and steam rolls during the week days.

Ardelin.9543:

I can’t believe there are people brain dead enough to realize this isn’t what happens every week. It’s really pretty kitten simple, one server gets a slight lead during the weekend after reset, everybody then transfers and steam rolls during the week days.

Oh, you’re trolling. Carry on.

Fort Aspenwood took the orb from north, while we took our garrison back. They then ran it back to garrison without realizing we took it and tried to take the orb there. My level 3 warrior killed the carrier and capped the orb in the garrison they previously had.

I’m from SoS, never actually get to log on at a time where the scores are much of a contest, either SoS has everything, or FA does. Excellent game mode you got here Arenanet.

Werkwerk.2798:

I dare you to follow JerkJerk for a day in WvW and tell me you don’t enjoy it. We do fine going at it with FA when we have relatively even numbers. Hop on Maguuma and see for yourself.

Hell yeah, JerkJerk is the greatest leader, see how many people he can bend to his will

saiyr.3071:

Werkwerk.2798:

I dare you to follow JerkJerk for a day in WvW and tell me you don’t enjoy it. We do fine going at it with FA when we have relatively even numbers. Hop on Maguuma and see for yourself.

Hell yeah, JerkJerk is the greatest leader, see how many people he can bend to his will

What can I say I got tired and wanted a nap.

For those of you going “woe is me Maguuma has given up”, you really need to look around more often. People said they’re sick of FA zerging us today so we took a bunch of random dudes and ate their borderlands. No sweat. This is exactly why we set up the 250 person voip server. We’ve still got the other 300 person voip server in case this one starts hitting its cap again as well.

For anyone tired of queues and such on another server, try us (Maguuma) out.

A few decent sized, active, guilds could really turn Maguuma around. We have awesome commanders and some proficient people backing them up, but we have almost no back end to manage what we have. I know everyone want’s to get into the action right away so they follow the zerg, but I roll in karma and badges on smaller scale fights holding and waiting out the attack/repel events. A solid guild in every structure would give our commanders the buffer they need to make some ground.

The other thing that we need heavily on our server are people to drill in tactics for our puggers, strategy alone won’t get us there. A few reminders occasionally about capitalizing fully on combo fields instead of spreading around in a circle, aoe’ing the gear icons on top of walls when attacking, and not being lured away by a couple of badguys helps in the long run.

FA especially seems to understand this on a broader scale and though I think we can match them toe to toe with our dedicated players, we don’t have an counter to enough of their attacks currently.

Last night was an anomaly….. It was a bloody peaceful evening and then ermagerd a ton of RPH guys came in and blued up Mag BL. And then they dissapeared .__.

TurtleMuncher.9750:

Last night was an anomaly….. It was a bloody peaceful evening and then ermagerd a ton of RPH guys came in and blued up Mag BL. And then they dissapeared .__.

You’ve gotta love Maguuma’s Filipino forces.