Guild Wars 2

What is more important at keep? Fortify(last wall upgrade) or waypoint? Would you even go for fortify if there are no cannons at keep yet?

I often notice a lot of people buying fortify first. Even if there are no cannons or other stuff. Especially at towers they don’t want to buy the “useless oil pot” before being able to buy cannons.

This only lets us with empty supplies there for a long time cause upgrades take ages and our camps often get flipped(and then not reupgraded fast cause zerg comes to recap and empties supplies at 100/100).

And then the enemy is attacking… at gate of course.

I strongly prefer waypoint first(first of course the 1st wallupgrade and then gate cause gates are weak). Not only increases the supply cap(you can store a bit more before buying next upgrade so you’d have some emergency supply when getting attacked – but nobody does that, everyone buying structural upgrades at 0 supply) but also you get cannons and I think they are useful(if you also have zerg to protect them it can support your zerg fighting the enemy and force them to retreat and attack walls with treb or stuff(that can be counter trebbed). Also wp good for faster movement and better defens of towers. Especially on slow servers like hours where it takes ages for the peple to get back to defend.

Same at towers. Some cannons have good position. Ogrewatch(ogre camp entrance, pangloss entrance) and Veloka for example.

IMO, Fortify first is a waste of time and supply and should be saved for the last upgrade always. Generally, I like to go in this order for keeps: Cannons → Walls → Gates → Mortars → WP

WP is more important. Fortify takes too long and is better last.

If you’re actively keeping a sentry in a keep and a force on the map, then it’s actually a good strategy to rush the WP before even doing walls or doors. ACs and the inner cannons should be enough to easily repel small forces while delaying a larger force.
Ram mastery and cheap golems have very much diminished the willingness of teams to commit to a longer siege with catas or trebs.

I think you see the fortify upgrade done more frequently before WP because it’s the newer woo-hoo WvW players that frequently buy the upgrades, and they don’t know that a fortified keep without a waypoint is much harder to defend than a keep with a waypoint.