hi i was wondering if u guys over at anet could give the gvg folks a wvw like map to gvg on. gvg is kinda a hindrance to wvw as it creates some cue issues as well as bodies on the map who are not working for the server. granted same can be said for the opposing server but that’s only two out of three servers kinda a wee bit crippled plus as u can see a lot of folks around these parts want to gvg. so in conclusion id really like to see a wvw map with no objectives on it so folks can gvg to there hearts content and not interfere with wvw.
Please do something for our guild groups that enjoy GvG and make an official type ladder. It may also encourage more WvW guilds to be created, making WvW a little less of a mindless blob. Also while ur at it would u mind penalizing larges blobs and rewarding more for running in smaller groups because skill lag does get a bit crazy sometimes, no WXP if u have more than a certain number of allies within a certain radius could help a tiny bit.
Twinny Todd – Guardian – FSP [PunK]
Big Bad Bunny – Necro – FSP [PunK]
A map made just for GvG matches could be almost featureless, just a blank plain where the two groups could face off against each other. It would require almost zero artistic resources.
Add in some kind of lobby/queue system and spectator mode, and honestly, Anet would have a license to print money. They could charge for it like they do in sPvP. The demand is there.
Thrumdi, Captain of The Tarnished Coastguard
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The ultimate GW2 troll.
If they are going to do this, it’d be ideal if it was region free …. Meaning EU and NA guilds could join same map.
Well, you are definetly thinking of a different Anet than I do. Because I can say almost certainly that Anets developers dont even have GvG on the horizon of their schedule. Maybe there are some concepts of a few content designers who were really motivated and did some extra hours, but thats it.
Cant sell weapon skins trough the gem store off that.
If Guilds want to do this, there should be much more involvement of the three worlds. Just last night we lost a T3 Bay while a GvG was taking place on our BL. We lost it to the world not involved in the GvG. Thus, it’s hard for me not to imagine that the GvG hindered our performance. Taking 20% or more off of the map population certainly should have an affect in a LR battle.
I’m completely for an Arena for GvG. The easiest way is just add some area to EB JP.
As much as i agree with the idea of implementing some roaming areas for organized guildgroups, and a proper gvg system, i don’t really understand some kind of whine i often see around about gvg.
Having on your server some dedicated www guilds means they work for you, your objectives and your precious points all the week. Does it really bother you that much to give them a couple of hours to do something fun and a bit different? Does it really bother you to pay… how much? 10 silver? of repair costs in those 2 hours if you don’t have the Outnumbered buff? Once the gvg is done that guild will come back to fight with you again, and don’t forget that their opponents will be also back on the field to hunt your players.
As much as i agree with the idea of implementing some roaming areas for organized guildgroups, and a proper gvg system, i don’t really understand some kind of whine i often see around about gvg.
Having on your server some dedicated www guilds means they work for you, your objectives and your precious points all the week. Does it really bother you that much to give them a couple of hours to do something fun and a bit different? Does it really bother you to pay… how much? 10 silver? of repair costs in those 2 hours if you don’t have the Outnumbered buff? Once the gvg is done that guild will come back to fight with you again, and don’t forget that their opponents will be also back on the field to hunt your players.
^ this.
I don’t GvG, but my guildmates do 1-2h per week. Not sure more segregation of players would be good for WvW in general – you would start seeing group ONLY wanting to GvG, dividing the population even more into different activities.
GvG COULD become a stale format with high dependency on small dedicated guilds of (say) 20 (and not 21!) and WvW would suffer too the loss of more players.
To increase the PvP getto you could have 1Vs1 maps only, Arrowcart chess games, endless division to make sure gw2 stays a healthy full living game.
I started as a supporter for guild halls and GvG only maps – but thinking about the possible consequences I’m not sure about it at all. I think they should solve plenty of WvW issues first before including a new format that could kill the old one.
Xenn [TDA]
Mesmer | Guardian | Necro | Ele
The Banana Team | www.tda.nu
Thing just is that many of these GvG guild don’t really work hard. They mainly run around and kill stuff without capping or defending kitten.
I thought killing stuff (enemy) was kind of like, er, defending.
Plenty of guild roaming groups run around looking for fun – that can be achieved by either defending (running from tower to keep putting out fires), capping and wait for the horde (defending) or knocking keeps down to get the worms out.
I’m afraid you could be wrong with such a generalised poorly thought statement.
Xenn [TDA]
Mesmer | Guardian | Necro | Ele
The Banana Team | www.tda.nu
Just like every open world pvp game before this, GvG is best when formulated by the players. If you take roamers and Guilds running around looking for fights out of the WvWvW maps, you are left with giant zergs steamrolling keeps and each other. You would barely ever see anyone moving around the map outside of the zerg and WvWvW would end up being brutally boring for a large population of players.
Instead, they should focus on making it so there is more room to roam in the WvWvW maps, make changes to split up huge zergs, and make changes where killing players actually helps the realms score. Even add a “scenarios” where Guilds can fight other realms guilds in pvp maps but the winning realm helps the WvWvW score.
My group and I want to help the realm, but we don’t want to run around taking objectives and camping zerg straggler routes and supply lines. Let us help the realm by winning GvG pvp matches and roaming and killing players.
see the thing is on my server me and a lot of fellow wvw folk have noticed the gvg groups don’t do anything for us other then occupy a small amount of enemy’s briefly. sure they can capture objectives but they hardly ever attempt to defend them and god forbid they drop a piece of siege in a keep or tower. they use there commander tags to gather the militia up and go guild hunting. of course they net a lot of wxp but there attitude is a issue because of it. for some reason they think because they may have fought a good guild and won or did well that they know how to meta. so my solution is get them off the wvw maps and wasting wvw space and resources. now ive also noticed some folks argue that they like smaller scale fights and would rather not get involved in zerging well i don’t like or involve myself in the zerg either but i still capture objectives from camps all the way up to keeps with my small group. now this is a reflection of my particular server and should be viewed as such that server being FA.
If they are going to do this, it’d be ideal if it was region free …. Meaning EU and NA guilds could join same map.
Well, you are definetly thinking of a different Anet than I do. Because I can say almost certainly that Anets developers dont even have GvG on the horizon of their schedule. Maybe there are some concepts of a few content designers who were really motivated and did some extra hours, but thats it.
Cant sell weapon skins trough the gem store off that.
@cimon
That’s precisely what I mean. Some guilds just want to kill enemies and participate in smaller scale fights. But still be part of the realm and contribute. Right now WvWvW doesn’t allow us too, its either cap points or zerg around to defeat the enemy zergs.
We want to help the realm, but we also want to fight players and not just the extremes, zergs or stragglers. And we don’t want to have to play with objectives and risk a huge zerg chasing us just to draw people out to fight.
i think the best option right now in EU atelast is all GVG teams to move to Tier 9 and open field fight and GVG to their hearts content!
FOW and VABBI have forever been in Tier 9 and unlikely to move anywhere. i remember Tier 3 was consolidated like this for a while and Random matchups screwed it all up!
u cant expect this to happen in NA, but most definitely possible in EU.
i think the best option right now in EU atelast is all GVG teams to move to Tier 9 and open field fight and GVG to their hearts content!
FOW and VABBI have forever been in Tier 9 and unlikely to move anywhere. i remember Tier 3 was consolidated like this for a while and Random matchups screwed it all up!
u cant expect this to happen in NA, but most definitely possible in EU.
One small problem..
What would happen if all guilds would move to tier 9………
I do agree that guilds should spread out over different servers tho, right now most guilds are stacked on the highest servers and the reason for that is because every other guild is there. So moving away would mean less fights, this could only be solved if all guilds would move and spread out, but this would create chaos because all rating mean nothing anymore.
Anet does not care of WWW !! Stop Dream!!!
Just check our forum…. pvp section it full of dev aswer. In our forum there is only a reply from a Anet staff member trying to justify his exploit…
take it like come and hope soon for a new RvR game
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